Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 11:13 -0700, Dylan McCall wrote: > (And a quick note about Evolution: 2.30 has evolution-express. Try > evolution --express from the command line. It's used in Meego and it > is awesome). Express mode will be used in Maverick UNE (expectedly).[1] [1]:https://blueprints.lau

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

>>> Platform team is reviewing unclutter for inclusion in the default >>> install and session. >> >> \o/ >> >> ( >> Everyone: >> Alt+F2, apt:unclutter >> Alt+F2, unclutter >> ) When playing games (specifically Tremulous but probably others), unclutter causes the mouse to jump to the top left of th

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 21:41, Greg K Nicholson wrote: > On 16 June 2010 15:24, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: >> >> Platform team is reviewing unclutter for inclusion in the default >> install and session. > > \o/ > > ( > Everyone: > Alt+F2, apt:unclutter > Alt+F2, unclutter > ) After using this for

Re: [Ayatana] Applications, a navigable folder

just messing around, this looks really neat, and with with all the apt: stuff installing running and removing applications will not only be fast and clean but will also make windows look very sloppy. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post t

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

lol, exactly! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

> > Hmm... here is a quote from Mark in an earlier thread that I started: > > "For designing indicators, ask yourself: > > - what is the *status* I am conveying, and > - what options are there to manipulate that status? > > If you don't have both, especially the status, don't use an indicator. >

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

On 17 June 2010 15:58, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Roth Robert wrote on 03/05/10 13:22: > >... > > Starting a new topic to discuss the suggestions, comments, ideas > > regarding the windicators > >

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Roth Robert wrote on 03/05/10 13:22: >>... >> Starting a new topic to discuss the suggestions, comments, ideas >> regarding the windicators >>

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

> So far, these just seem to be menus, but with an optional icon instead > of text. So I have to ask: Why don't these belong in the regular > application menu bar? The windicators will also be able to use the icons to show status, like panel indicators do. ___

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

> > Window indicators, or windicators, are menus that appear at the trailing > end of a window’s title bar, or in the panel when the window is maximized. > Application developers can use windicators for reflecting status, and > allowing change of status, for the item or items presented in the windo

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

> With help from Ted Gould of the DX team, I have now (mostly) finished a > specification for windicators, with a few examples. > Nice work. I don't know if you simply consider this too obvious, but I think there should be a guideline recommending th

Re: [Ayatana] No "application bucket" needed

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeremy Nickurak wrote on 19/05/10 18:20: > > What about rhythmox content sharing? > > If rhythmbox is sharing content via one of its plugins, when you close > it, you don't want it to go a way... you want it to be a background > service. Closing the

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roth Robert wrote on 03/05/10 13:22: >... > Starting a new topic to discuss the suggestions, comments, ideas > regarding the windicators > Mark blogged about. >... With help from Ted Gould of the DX team,

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

Hey David, On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 07:59 -0700, David Hamm wrote: > there's also swipe (down), shake, multi-finger, and eye tracking. 0_0 > but these require fine tuning. (insert (mighty) mouse) You mean perhaps in the future if we look confused at an icon then the computer will pick up our express

Re: [Ayatana] Applications, a navigable folder

:D insert happiness -(image) stolen from google <>___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

there's also swipe (down), shake, multi-finger, and eye tracking. 0_0 but these require fine tuning. (insert (mighty) mouse) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~a

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

click/hover (touch have pressure sometimes), long press. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ayatana] Is it time we killed "minimize to tray" ?

On 15 June 2010 08:10, Martin Owens wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 14:08 +0100, Luke Benstead wrote: > > Is there a reason why DockbarX is not suitable for this? I've attached > > a screenshot incase people dunno what I'm talking about :) > > That is what you would get if you removed the ... fr

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 10:04 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > Because we can have a very good, usable experience without a hidden > menu from right-click. Is there a way to have other noun action contexts without right click? It's certainly become a natural and well taught meme that if you want t

Re: [Ayatana] Is it time we killed "minimize to tray" ?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jake Tolbert wrote on 16/06/10 05:05: > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Martin Owens > wrote: >... >> That is what you would get if you removed the ... from the bar when >> they get resized. >> >> I never understood why

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

On 17 June 2010 05:04, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 16/06/10 17:09, Anzan Hoshin Roshi wrote: > > Mark, why will the panel not allow feature management? > Because we can have a very good, usable experience without a hidden menu > from right-click. > > All right, I think I know what you're going

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

"Frederik Nnaji" wrote: >> >> Real shortly then: broken but not-yet-replaceable applications needs two >> things from their indicators: >> >> 1. to be able to interact left/right click etc >> 2. to be able to be seen at all times >> >> That's it. Otherwise they break the *experience*. As descr

Re: [Ayatana] VPN

On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 11:55 +0200, Siegfried Gevatter wrote: > 2010/6/17 Frederik Nnaji : > > i hope we'll have a wizard for mobile broadband setup soon.. > > There is... If I connect a 3G modem or phone NetworkManager asks me > whether I want to connect to it... Maybe your device is not supported

Re: [Ayatana] VPN

2010/6/17 Frederik Nnaji : > i hope we'll have a wizard for mobile broadband setup soon.. There is... If I connect a 3G modem or phone NetworkManager asks me whether I want to connect to it... Maybe your device is not supported yet (or I misunderstood what you mean). -- Siegfried-Angel Gevatter

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

> > Real shortly then: broken but not-yet-replaceable applications needs two > things from their indicators: > > 1. to be able to interact left/right click etc > 2. to be able to be seen at all times > > That's it. Otherwise they break the *experience*. As described, above. Not > unusable, but it

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

Now, moving on with the discussion itself: > Real shortly then: broken but not-yet-replaceable applications needs > two things from their indicators: > > 1. to be able to interact left/right click etc > 2. to be able to be seen at all times Instead of keeping the notification area *exactly* a

Re: [Ayatana] Is it time we killed "minimize to tray" ?

Hi Martin, On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 09:10, Martin Owens wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 14:08 +0100, Luke Benstead wrote: > > Is there a reason why DockbarX is not suitable for this? I've attached > > a screenshot incase people dunno what I'm talking about :) > > That is what you would get if yo

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

On 16/06/10 17:09, Anzan Hoshin Roshi wrote: > Mark, why will the panel not allow feature management? Because we can have a very good, usable experience without a hidden menu from right-click. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Ma

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

> I am calm. And I don't think there is a conspiracy. I have no idea why > someone would put those words in my mouth, but oh well... That was a tongue-in-cheek comment and not meant to be taken seriously. Sorry if you felt I was putting words in your mouth. :( > I am only (repeat-)explaining wh

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010/6/16 Conscious User > > Kristoffer, calm down. > [...] There is no evil conspiracy to break your desktop experience, just a > desire to see if there are any improvement possibilities that are being > overlooked. > > I am calm. And I don't think there is a conspiracy. I have no idea why some