Re: [Ayatana] SoundMenu and hovering

2010-09-20 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hello MPT, On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:46, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > David Callé wrote on 23/07/10 11:14: > >... > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu > > I think there should be specifications about hovered appearance of > > items in the Soun

[Ayatana] Full Screen Menus and Scaling

2010-09-20 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
hello list, perhaps somebody has experience in designing compositing window managers? I was going through a thought experiment concerning scaling behaviour in compiz or mutter e.g. Imagine there are 3 ways to scale: * Superkey + Mousewheel for Desktop Zoom (always) * Superkey + E = Exposé of Wo

Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications

2010-09-20 Thread Apoorva Sharma
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mark Curtis wrote: > Wouldn't that block EVERY application's "File Edit, etc" menu? I'm > referring specifically Unity here as the subject is "Unity and > notifications". > > I meant just the indicator icons part, since those only display system status, and since

Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications

2010-09-20 Thread Mark Curtis
Wouldn't that block EVERY application's "File Edit, etc" menu? I'm referring specifically Unity here as the subject is "Unity and notifications". Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:28:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications From: appi2...@gmail.com To: merkin...@hotmail.com CC: ayatana@li

Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications

2010-09-20 Thread Apoorva Sharma
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Mark Curtis wrote: > Trying to find an area of the screen that won't obscure all applications > is fruitless. There is no single location that won't end up obscuring SOME > application's interface. > Popular applications such as GIMP (right and left), Inkscape (

Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications

2010-09-20 Thread Diego Moya
On 20 September 2010 18:25, Luke Benstead wrote: > > I can only think of two options to display notifications while trying not > to obscure a user's workspace: > > a.) Don't display notifications in the working area (e.g. display them in > the panel, Android-style) > b.) Resize the working area to

Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications

2010-09-20 Thread Luke Benstead
On 20 September 2010 16:55, Mark Curtis wrote: > Trying to find an area of the screen that won't obscure all applications > is fruitless. There is no single location that won't end up obscuring SOME > application's interface. > Popular applications such as GIMP (right and left), Inkscape (bottom

Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications

2010-09-20 Thread Mark Curtis
Trying to find an area of the screen that won't obscure all applications is fruitless. There is no single location that won't end up obscuring SOME application's interface. Popular applications such as GIMP (right and left), Inkscape (bottom and left) and Firefox (top) total to using all sides

Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications

2010-09-20 Thread Luke Benstead
> >> We could do better with the fading, but I find myself unable to imagine >> a situation where someone simultaneously (a) needs to see what's under a >> notification bubble and (b) "needs the cursor elsewhere". Can you give >> an example? >> >> > I think Michael Jonker already provided one at th

Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications

2010-09-20 Thread Diego Moya
I support the NotifyOSD goal to create not intrusive messages, but I think the current design falls short of that goal. Now that it has been in the wild and used in real contexts, some of the initial controversial decisions that were boldly supported should now be reconsidered, in particular the ze

Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications

2010-09-20 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego Moya wrote on 17/09/10 13:59: > > On 17 September 2010 14:18, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >... >> Well, Jef had some odd ideas about user input and focus of attention. >> He thought, for example, that error messages should behave rather like >> N

Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications

2010-09-20 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Jonker wrote on 17/09/10 13:58: > > It seems that, under the subject of 1)Unity 2)and notifications, the > most discussion is concerning the 'Notification Bubble' (Thanks Matthew > for pointing to the spec) The specification is a separate doc

Re: [Ayatana] SoundMenu and hovering

2010-09-20 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Callé wrote on 23/07/10 11:14: >... > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu > I think there should be specifications about hovered appearance of > items in the Sound Menu. For now, based on an empiric use of the rest > of the menus all over the deskt