Re: [Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

2011-11-18 Thread Christian Giordano
I very appreciate the spirit of this post, more data is always welcome! ;) It would be good, though, if we could have better data. Opt-in mechanisms unfortunately compromise quite a lot the data, not everyone, or more importantly not every kind of person, would make their voice heard. It has been

Re: [Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

2011-10-18 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 charlesa...@gmail.com wrote on 16/10/11 10:50: ... I do still believe there's something has to change regarding the up to date software installation, just like in windows xp, though it's old from year 2001, but we still able to install most of

Re: [Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

2011-10-18 Thread charlesa...@gmail.com
I like the option #1. :) /charles everytime i get ahead, i feel more dead. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 charlesa...@gmail.com wrote on 16/10/11 10:50: ... I do still believe there's

[Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

2011-10-16 Thread Tomasz Sałaciński
Hello, My question is about the attitude of making changes to Ubuntu. Most replies start with Users don't want to, Most users won't do that, This will make users confused. How do you have such information? My proposal is to make a Ubuntu poll application that will gather opinion from users

Re: [Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

2011-10-16 Thread charlesa...@gmail.com
Dear Tomasz, That would be great. But they are still required to have valid account on launchpad or something official from ubuntu though, otherwise naughty user will poll and poll again just to abuse ubuntu developement progress. I'm not a programmer but I'm sure I'll glad to help with any kind

Re: [Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

2011-10-16 Thread Kostas Sytske
Hello, What users want you can find on the Ubuntu Brainstorm website: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ There are many ideas from what people like to see in Ubuntu. I think you have to make a poll (NOT requiring a Launchpad account) part of the Ubuntu Brainstorm website. Best regards, Kostas

Re: [Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

2011-10-16 Thread Christian Rupp
I don't think we need to have a login process. I think it's better to allow every computer to submit one result. I'm not a programmer, so I've no idea how to realize that. You normally don't have over 3 up to 5 PCs to update and a company should use a LTS and the most used software is still

Re: [Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

2011-10-16 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 16. okt. 2011 11:33, skrev Tomasz Sałaciński: Hello, My question is about the attitude of making changes to Ubuntu. Most replies start with Users don't want to, Most users won't do that, This will make users confused. How do you have such information? My proposal is to make a Ubuntu poll

Re: [Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

2011-10-16 Thread Tomasz Sałaciński
It could be easier to do a normal GTK application that will start when the system is started for the first time and show a dialog box asking if user wants to participate in polls. Then, it could identify users by their external IP (taken from the poll server when application connects to

Re: [Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

2011-10-16 Thread James Jenner
On 16 October 2011 21:01, Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.comwrote: You get such data by collecting a number of different users and testing the software on them in a controlled manner. A web poll is not useful because people will be driven by preconceptions and emotion instead of

Re: [Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

2011-10-16 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 10/16/2011 12:36 PM, Kostas Sytske wrote: What users want you can find on the Ubuntu Brainstorm website: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ Not 'users', but the segment of users who are sufficiently enthusiastic and interested enough about Ubuntu, who know about the Brainstorm site, think