Re: [Ayatana] Unity Interface in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-02-06 Thread supernova
I had similar thoughts once, but now I think this:
when you open Nautilus you have a menù on the left, fully
customizable, that allows to choose the folder you need to open. So in
Unity bar you need "only" to open Nautilus, then choose from its menù.
Operations lasts 2 clicks for folders in menù.
Where is the necessity to add names to icon? It seems faster, but you
need: right click and left click, just the same number of operations
at least. Does this configuration slow down Unity? Does this
configuration look like different from Unity style?

In my opinion Unity is a Desktop Environment that educates people on
the rational use of desktop computers.

My two cents,
Supernova

2012/2/6 João Morais :
> Thank you very much Georgi! That is great news =)
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Interface in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-02-05 Thread João Morais
Thank you very much Georgi! That is great news =)
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Interface in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-02-05 Thread João Morais
But even if you think that an App Lens launcher isn't a good idea, if you
think about the Files Lens it make more sense. Unity is being built to use
Lens right? So why create a launcher to nautilus instead of the Files Lens?
The launcher would then have a quicklist to Home Folder... Maybe i'm not
seeing the big picture, but i just think it makes more sense and it helps
the transition to unity.
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Interface in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-02-05 Thread Georgi Karavasilev
A) That's old 11.04 screenshots. IIRC the lenses are to be movable to the
launcher in 12.04, not sure about filters as quicklists, through :P
B) How the filters act in 11.04 and 11.10 and 12.04 is exactly what you are
describing -  selecting the "internet" filter will only show you internet
apps, the "media" one only media apps etc... The difference is that in
11.04 filters were accessible through both - quicklists on the lens in the
launchers and via the Dash and in 11.10 they are only accessible via the
Dash, but (read A)
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Interface in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-02-05 Thread João Morais
It would be faster; fewer clicks; the filter in the lens is a bit confusing
as it has too many app category, some that don't even have apps to filter
(default install) and it would help people that are used to the way the
gnome 2 menu worked. It wouldn't work exactly like the gnome menu, but it
would be similar, something that makes the transition tu unity a bit
easier, i think.
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Interface in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-02-05 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad

On 05. feb. 2012 23:54, João Morais wrote:
[snip]
apps would be awesome! How did you add that to your launcher?? Don't 
tell me you can already add Lens with quicklist to the launcher =S


You could in 11.04. But why would it be easier to select a category from 
the launcher instead of the lens itself under Filters?


Jo-Erlend Schinstad

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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Interface in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-02-05 Thread João Morais
Yes! Something like that... but with the same quicklist options as the
Nautilus launcher, and when left clicking it would open the File Lens
instead of the Home folder. And maybe something similar to the Apps Lens,
that would be great for people like me that love the way unity is working,
through Lens, and at the same time it would create something like the gnome
2 menu, for people that miss it... A quicklist for the Media category or
Internet app category that opens the app lens only showing those apps would
be awesome! How did you add that to your launcher?? Don't tell me you can
already add Lens with quicklist to the launcher =S
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Interface in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-02-05 Thread Georgi Karavasilev
Do you mean something like this? :)
http://iloveubuntu.net/pictures_me/unity_places_quicklist_2.png
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Interface in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-02-05 Thread João Morais
Hi Marco!

Thank you very much for your reply! Yes i had already tried the Bliss Lens,
my post wasn't really about changing the App Lens. It was about creating 2
new shortcuts in the launcher, making it easier to access the current App
Lens and File Lens. Adding quicklists to these 2 new "shortucts" with the
main Favorite Folders and the main App Categorys/Types, would make the
workflow faster, easier and more Lens centric. As things are right now, we
only use the launcher to access apps faster, and folders (through
quicklist)... I think if we could access the Lens faster or more directly,
people might use it more. In my opinion people still think in opening files
going through folders and not using Lens, it would just be easier to change
that if instead of a nautilus shortcut in the launcher we had a Files Lens
shortcut with the same quicklist options (maybe adding the Home folder to
that quicklist). The same applies for apps. I have installed Ubuntu in many
of my friends and family computers, i have shown a few of them, the changes
introduced in 12.04 and watched them explore the new unity, and in my
opinion they keep thinking in terms of files in folders and don't really
use the Files Lens or Music Lens. But that's just my opinion, maybe i'm
wrong and you have had different results.

2012/2/5 Marco Kirchberger 

>  Have you tried the Bliss Lens?
>
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/unity-bliss-an-alternative-application-lens-for-ubuntu/
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / kind regards
> *Marco Kirchberger *
> *email* ma...@e-kirchberger.de
> *mobil* 0151/19412771
>
> Am 05.02.2012 15:30, schrieb Morais:
>
> Hello!
>
> I'm a big fan of Ubuntu and the Unity interface and wanted to ask a
> few questions about the design. You recently changed the dash Home
> because the apps listed there were, usually, already in the launcher
> and i thought that was an awesome move, even more so since the
> introduction of the quicklist in the launcher items. But now with the
> introduction of those quicklists (also a great step in the right
> direction) the nautilus launcher has quicklist for all our favorite
> folders, so now people will use even less the Files Lens in the dash
> even though it lets us search for files and folders more quickly. So
> now we have something like the old places menu in gnome 2, but what
> about an app menu? We still have to open the dash and make a few
> choices in the app category before we are shown only, the type of apps
> we want. And there is also an "System/Control Center" launcher in the
> launcher, something also similar to gnome 2 menu. Have you thought of
> putting 2 new shortcuts in the launcher, that take us to the apps and
> files lens? The Files Lens in the Launcher would substitute the
> nautilus launcher, using the same quicklist options but when left
> clicking it would take us to the Files Lens in the dash. The Apps Lens
> in the launcher would have quicklist for the main apps category but
> when left clicking it would take us to the Apps Lens in the Dash. The
> BFB or dash icon would open the Dash Home with icons for all the
> Lenses available. This would make unity more LENS centric and would
> make the workflow faster and easier for newcomers.
>
> Thank you in advance for taking your time to read this and for all
> your effort in improving Ubuntu. And sorry for my bad english.
>
>
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