Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Leonard Silva
Hi Karen, I know nothing of my grandfather's family except that his father was Manuel C. or Frank C. and his mother was Anna Joaquina. He came from Covas, Graciosa. Now, I assume that if there is a Silva from Graciosa in your family, then we are probably related, even if the connection goes

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Steve Peters
On Jun 11, 2:35 pm, Leonard Silva lensi...@lenstudio.com wrote: Family stories say that he came as a 15 year old stowaway with an older cousin who abandoned him in Boston. My great-great-grandfather Caetano Freitas was also supposedly a stowaway. I wonder if this may be a euphemism for draft

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Cheri Mello
StowawaysIf I had $5 for every time I heard that story, I'd be rich! Our ancestors did not send all their boys to America or elsewhere to avoid the military. And yet it seems those of us with male ancestors have a stowaway story. Either Michael Tepper in his American Passenger Arrival

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Michael Gilfilian
My gg grandfather ran away from home at 16 but it wasn't to avoid the military, he hated being a farmer and to go to sea. So when the CW Morgan was in the Gotta port away he went. But several months later when the Morgan came back to Faial he went home. But he did finally come to the US for good,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Michael Gilfilian
Maybe someone can answer this for me, my gg grandfather said at the time he went whaling from Faial the captain of the Charles W.Morgan was a captain Sylvia. This would have been around 1884. But I can't find anywhere something that lists a Sylvia as captaining of the Morgan. On Jun 12, 2012 2:38

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Cheri Mello
Try spelling it as Silva or Sylva. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Sonia Pacheco
I have to agree with John. I have evidence from the Comissariado da Polícia Especial de Emigração Clandestina (Special Police Commission for Illegal Immigration) that there was an established methodology for the ship captains and stowaways. It all starts with the knowledge that all Portuguese

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Cheri Mello
However, what I am saying is that it seems like an extremely high number of researchers with the stowaway story. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying it's not a crazy number like 50%. If anyone has the books I mentioned before, it will shed light on the statistics. Kind of like American

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Sonia Pacheco
Fair enough Cheri. The calculated number of immigrants that reached the shores of the United States through illegal means has actually been calculated to be between 13-15% . Maria Ioannis Baganha, one of the foremost respected historians on Portuguese migration, wrote a paper where she

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread AlRose509
Concur with JohnV on this. I found that one particular mariner had been coming to Providence, RI since 1860 and carried friends/acquaintances/customers from Azores to Providence. He used an alias even in court records. He was a native of Sao Jorge but sailed from Flores and Faial most

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread AlRose509
Cheri is on target. In a message dated 6/12/2012 3:04:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: However, what I am saying is that it seems like an extremely high number of researchers with the stowaway story. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying it's not a

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Leonard Silva
I have always been suspicious of the stowaway story because my grandfather was naturalized 12 years after his arrival. It seems that naturalization might require proof that one came legitimately. On the other hand, I have enjoyed telling people that I am the grandson of an illegal immigrant.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Gayle Machado
Cheri, I'm not finding any real discussion (or stats) in Colletta's book. If it's there it's not in the section Births and deaths at sea, stowaways, and other information. Gayle On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: StowawaysIf I had $5 for every time I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigrant Ships

2012-06-12 Thread Cheri Mello
It may have been in Tepper's book. I'll have to find it and post it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Caetano de Lima

2012-06-12 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Hello JRI don't recall making a post on Jose however he is a distant cousin so I would be interested on what you may have on him past his weddding and one child.Many thanks.Hermano Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:39:23 -0700 From: jro...@rogers.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Uploading GEDCOM for FtDNA test

2012-06-12 Thread Carole Medeiros
I've mailed my husband's completed kit off to FtDNA for the Family Finder test. I thought I read someplace here that I need to upload a GEDCOM file? Does that get loaded to the FtDNA site or elsewhere? Thanks, Carole Medeiros Researching Carlos Medeiros on Sao Jorge Sao Miguel -- To

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Uploading GEDCOM for FtDNA test

2012-06-12 Thread Cheri Mello
Carole (and other DNA testers), Log into the My FTDNA page and look for the dark blue navigation bar across the top for My Account. Point at that. From the drop down menu, click GEDCOM/FamilyTree. The screens from there will walk you through it. The only part of your tree that FTDNA takes is