Great post cousin Emil!!! Antonia de Bem Manuel Almeida, our
ancestors in common, from Cedros, Faial are my 8th ggrandparents.
Unfortunately, their birth dates ancestral origins are unknown
according to the notes that Faial researcher, Helder Oliveira, wrote.
Patricia
At 10:32 AM
Sent: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:37:25 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem
Great post cousin Emil!!! Antonia de Bem Manuel Almeida, our
ancestors in common, from Cedros, Faial are my 8th ggrandparents.
Unfortunately, their birth dates ancestral origins are unknown
according to the notes
posts are only to one person. Hope all is well.
Emil Silveira
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From: Patricia Butcher pereir...@cox.net
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Sent: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:37:25 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem
Great post cousin Emil!!! Antonia de Bem Manuel Almeida
Here are a couple of more from Ancestry. Listed under debem
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Francisco Debem
Arrival Date: 23 Jun 1942
Birth Year: abt 1916
Age: 26
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Portuguese
Port of Departure: Lisbon, Portugal
Port of Arrival: New York, New York To
escreveu:
De: bellema...@gmail.com bellema...@gmail.com
Assunto: Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem
Para: azores Azores@googlegroups.com
Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Julho de 2010, 12:11
Here are a couple of more from Ancestry. Listed under debem
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name
Karlushko,
Debem De bem - I posted this the way it was listed on Ancestry. When I
searched Bem on Ancestry, I gave those results. When I searched for de bem,
there was nothing. When I put the two together debem, I found the results I
posted. I leave it to listers to separate the two.
E
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Strange. But thanks.
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:32 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:
Karlushko,
Debem De bem - I posted this the way it was listed on Ancestry. When I
searched Bem on Ancestry, I gave those results. When I searched for de bem,
there was nothing. When I put the two
When researching your immigrant ancestor in America (not sure about Canada),
you have to try the prefix with and without the space. De Bem and then try
Debem. de mello and DeMello. Da Silva and dasilva. Etc, etc. And then try
the Anglizations of the name.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Karlushko,
English people don't put DeBem, DaSilva, etc. Americans do. I don't
know about the Canadians and how they handle it. Since America was settled
initially by many English, who don't use prefixes with their surnames, they
didn't know what to do with prefixes. So they ran them together
Cheri, Thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough
explanation. I had always accepted that things were confused but never
really thought about the reasons why.
This is not the only area where the Portuguese names don't mesh with
other, more common languages in genealogy. I like
Hi Jesse,
Since Ancestry's home base is in Utah, they are probably going to go by the
American standard of doing things.
I can't remember all the genealogy programs at the moment, but some of them
have an option to assign the father's surname or to turn that feature off.
You might check to see
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De: Jesse Pacheco pacheco.jess...@gmail.com
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Julho de 2010, 22:04
Cheri, Thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough explanation. I
had always accepted that things were
Karlushko,
Most forms in America have a first name field and a surname field. There is
no field for a pre-surname. So if your first name is Ricardo, then your
last name is da Silva and if you put da Silva in the surname field, surnames
must be capitalized so they wind up putting Da Silva. Some
I have never saw it. But I have seen BOM (good). I have seen also BENFEITO
from S. Miguel, Azores.
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Hi Lionel,
Yes, I have a few de Bems in my file.
Emil Silveira
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From: Lionel Holmes lionelholme...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:50:15 - (UTC)
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem
Does anyone know if Bem is a Portuguese surname?
Thanks, Emil. I have one large Bem family in my files, but I wasn't certain
it was Portuguese.
Lionel
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:14 PM, ehsilve...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Lionel,
Yes, I have a few de Bems in my file.
Emil Silveira
- Original Message -
From: Lionel Holmes
Lionel,
I've seen some BEM families in Sao Joao on Pico, if that helps.
Gayle
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From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of Lionel Holmes
Sent: Thu 7/8/2010 11:50 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem
Does anyone know if Bem is a Portuguese
Lionel,
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Amelia Vieira De Bem
Arrival Date: 22 Sep 1931
Birth Year: abt 1906
Birth Location: Portugal
Birth Location Other: Lagos
Age: 25
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Portuguese
Port of Departure: Lisbon, Portugal
Port of Arrival: New York,
Gayle,
Thanks. I wasn't sure if the name was Portuguese, but now several people
have assured me it is.
Lionel
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Gayle Machado
gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu wrote:
Lionel,
I've seen some BEM families in Sao Joao on Pico, if that helps.
Gayle
Thanks, now I know for sure it's a Portuguese name.
Lionel
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:06 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:
Lionel,
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Amelia Vieira De Bem
Arrival Date: 22 Sep 1931
Birth Year: abt 1906
Birth Location: Portugal
Birth Location
Yes, for sure it is
I have a friend in another group here in Brazil looking for this name
Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
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Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão,
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