[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
Hi all, I once again need a little help with the translations. I can't read the mom's name or the exact year. Here is what I have: Manuel son of Jorge d' Azevedo Machado and (Can't read mom's name) Paternal grandparents are Manuel d' Azevedo Machado and Maria Isabel Maternal grandparents are Joam? d' Azevedo de Borba and Anna d' Azevedo? The date I read is 15th of August 18? and not sure if this is the birth or baptism day godparents are Joaquim d' Azevedo Machado and Juinita? d' Azevedo Thanks for any help, Eddie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
Hi, What’s the link? Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eddie Machado Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:03 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name Hi all, I once again need a little help with the translations. I can't read the mom's name or the exact year. Here is what I have: Manuel son of Jorge d' Azevedo Machado and (Can't read mom's name) Paternal grandparents are Manuel d' Azevedo Machado and Maria Isabel Maternal grandparents are Joam? d' Azevedo de Borba and Anna d' Azevedo? The date I read is 15th of August 18? and not sure if this is the birth or baptism day godparents are Joaquim d' Azevedo Machado and Juinita? d' Azevedo Thanks for any help, Eddie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
You think I would remember the most important part http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839_item1/P265.html Thanks On Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:54:53 AM UTC-4, DiG wrote: Hi, What’s the link? Diane *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Eddie Machado *Sent:* Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:03 AM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name Hi all, I once again need a little help with the translations. I can't read the mom's name or the exact year. Here is what I have: Manuel son of Jorge d' Azevedo Machado and (Can't read mom's name) Paternal grandparents are Manuel d' Azevedo Machado and Maria Isabel Maternal grandparents are Joam? d' Azevedo de Borba and Anna d' Azevedo? The date I read is 15th of August 18? and not sure if this is the birth or baptism day godparents are Joaquim d' Azevedo Machado and Juinita? d' Azevedo Thanks for any help, Eddie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1714-1724 Velas, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge Baptismo missing?
Hello Sallie, I do not know if there are connections until I know a little more about your Agostinho Borba's life, but I am a Borba researching Borba's that came from Sao Jorge through Rhode Island, most of whom set up their lives in Northern California. Adair Borba On Jul 19, 2014, at 5:14 PM, AndresWife wrote: I have been trying to find Estevao D Borba (abt 1723-1776) , son of Agostinho D Borba Maria Alves from Norte Grande. I have found siblings, but I can't find him, and then noticed the listing for those years are missing. Has anyone else had a problem with these years? Just wondering if it was possibly put somewhere else, or if anyone has researched this family and found info elsewhere? Thank you, Sallie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
Hi Eddie, I'm kind of new at this too but I think you have done pretty well. I think the mother's name is Britta (maybe Ritta) Victorina. On paternal Grandmother it looks like there is a de jesus after Maria Isabel. The date is the birth date and I think it's 8-15-1819 (?) maybe 1829..since it looks like records before were 1827??? Really not sure of the year. God parents Godfather looks like Joaquin de Azevedo de Borba,I think Godmother's name is Barbara Jacinta de Azevedo. Well..hope this will help some. Edna (dave-e...@comcast.net Oh, that men would give thanks to the LORD for His goodness, and for His wonderful works to the children of men! Psalm 107:21 On Jul 20, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Eddie Machado avidedito...@gmail.com wrote: You think I would remember the most important part http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839_item1/P265.html Thanks On Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:54:53 AM UTC-4, DiG wrote: Hi, What's the link? Diane From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eddie Machado Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:03 AM To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name Hi all, I once again need a little help with the translations. I can't read the mom's name or the exact year. Here is what I have: Manuel son of Jorge d' Azevedo Machado and (Can't read mom's name) Paternal grandparents are Manuel d' Azevedo Machado and Maria Isabel Maternal grandparents are Joam? d' Azevedo de Borba and Anna d' Azevedo? The date I read is 15th of August 18? and not sure if this is the birth or baptism day godparents are Joaquim d' Azevedo Machado and Juinita? d' Azevedo Thanks for any help, Eddie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
Eddie M, I think mom is Ritta Victorina (modern: Rita Vitorina). I swear I'm reading born 15 Aug 1819. The book is for 1825-1839. Someone else better take a look. They could have baptized the child much later. It happens on occasion. I can't quite get the baptism date because of the word above crashing into it. I'd guess 17 or 18 of the same month and year (Aug 1819 - if I have that right). More eyes are need to confirm that year please! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
Cheri, I agree with you,born on the 15 Aug 1819, baptized on the 17 Aug 1819, but the preceding page is 1827 which is between 1825-1839. Who knows what the priest was thinking. Tish On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Eddie M, I think mom is Ritta Victorina (modern: Rita Vitorina). I swear I'm reading born 15 Aug 1819. The book is for 1825-1839. Someone else better take a look. They could have baptized the child much later. It happens on occasion. I can't quite get the baptism date because of the word above crashing into it. I'd guess 17 or 18 of the same month and year (Aug 1819 - if I have that right). More eyes are need to confirm that year please! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1714-1724 Velas, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge Baptismo missing?
If there are years missing, it is usually because the parish book was lost, misplaced, possibly destroyed by nature, etc. What I have done when that happens is to look at baptisms of the other siblings' children and see if that person is listed as a godparent. Sometimes this helps to narrow down the time of their own birth year. I think a person had to be a certain minimum age to be a godparent. But someone with more knowledge can tell you if that is correct.Not much you can do when the books are lost. On Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:14:52 PM UTC-7, Sallie wrote: I have been trying to find Estevao D Borba (abt 1723-1776) , son of Agostinho D Borba Maria Alves from Norte Grande. I have found siblings, but I can’t find him, and then noticed the listing for those years are missing. Has anyone else had a problem with these years? Just wondering if it was possibly put somewhere else, or if anyone has researched this family and found info elsewhere? Thank you, Sallie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
That is what threw me off. I was actually searching after 1831. Right now I am on page 127 in 1825-1839 and it is 1831. Thank you all for your help! On Sunday, July 20, 2014 1:37:55 PM UTC-4, sfig wrote: Cheri, I agree with you,born on the 15 Aug 1819, baptized on the 17 Aug 1819, but the preceding page is 1827 which is between 1825-1839. Who knows what the priest was thinking. Tish On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Eddie M, I think mom is Ritta Victorina (modern: Rita Vitorina). I swear I'm reading born 15 Aug 1819. The book is for 1825-1839. Someone else better take a look. They could have baptized the child much later. It happens on occasion. I can't quite get the baptism date because of the word above crashing into it. I'd guess 17 or 18 of the same month and year (Aug 1819 - if I have that right). More eyes are need to confirm that year please! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA couple from Luz
HI! I have this couple Rosa Tomásia or Rosa Tomásia de Bettencourt married to Domingos José Medina on February 2, 1834 in Luz, Graciosa, Açores. Previously I had taken notes on their children: birth place, dates and Godparents. I have notes on the Godparents names!!! So it means that somehow I read the original registers... But :) when I go through the CCA original registries I can't find some of them in the dates I had in my notes... (it means I messed up my notes?!). O looked at 2 years before and after, but could not find them. It means either I messed up the Freguesia or the birth dates... (is this getting old? :) :) :) ) So, please if you have this couple and their children please let me know about (and a little help :) ). Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Interpretation of surname LIMA
Hello, does anyone have an interpretation of the surname Lima or da Lima? A person has told me that Lima means wood? Responses appreciated, Thanks, Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
Well, if others are also seeing 1819, then maybe it was a small child being baptized a few years later. Maybe there was an outbreak of something and they didn't take the baby in after birth so they wouldn't infect everyone there (if they knew about such things then). Maybe they were in the middle of the harvest and couldn't make it. Maybe they did it and that page fell out so they redid the baptism. My ancestor was baptized 25 or so years after his birth. The only reason we found it was his marriage said he had just been baptized. He was the only kid not baptized at birth. We have no idea why, unless it was one of the scenarios above or maybe a host of other reasons. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interpretation of surname LIMA
Hi Barbara B, Madeira is wood. Never thought about Lima. Google translate says lime. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Interpretation of surname LIMA
Hi Barbara According to a book I have on the Noble families of Portugal . The first person recorded with the surname Lima was D. Joao Fernandes de Lima,(the good). He was from the land of Limia(Lima) in Galicia. Lima is also the Portuguese word for Lime. Antonio On Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:15:52 AM UTC-7, Barbara Bluhm wrote: Hello, does anyone have an interpretation of the surname Lima or da Lima? A person has told me that Lima means wood? Responses appreciated, Thanks, Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Interpretation of surname LIMA
Hello, Barbara, I don't have the same document as Antonio, but I fully support his answer. The only correction I'd like to make is that Limia/Lima is not a land, but a river. There's a land in Spain called Xinzo de Limia, but there's also a Ponte de Lima. Your surname can descend from this guy's family or simply from others that lived in one of these towns. João Ventura http:// On Sunday, 20 July 2014 22:42:28 UTC+2, A Faria wrote: Hi Barbara According to a book I have on the Noble families of Portugal . The first person recorded with the surname Lima was D. Joao Fernandes de Lima,(the good). He was from the land of Limia(Lima) in Galicia. Lima is also the Portuguese word for Lime. Antonio On Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:15:52 AM UTC-7, Barbara Bluhm wrote: Hello, does anyone have an interpretation of the surname Lima or da Lima? A person has told me that Lima means wood? Responses appreciated, Thanks, Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1714-1724 Velas, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge Baptismo missing?
Sallie, actually the missing years are from 1714—1724. There are no records for this time period. The books from 1634—1713 are really fragmented too and jump around a lot. It’s frustrating, I know, because I have lost a few grandparents in that period. Also, the Priest who wrote the records in the 1720’s has horrible handwriting! You may have to check out what you can and just guesstimate the birth. Rosemarie From: AndresWife Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:14 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1714-1724 Velas, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge Baptismo missing? I have been trying to find Estevao D Borba (abt 1723-1776) , son of Agostinho D Borba Maria Alves from Norte Grande. I have found siblings, but I can’t find him, and then noticed the listing for those years are missing. Has anyone else had a problem with these years? Just wondering if it was possibly put somewhere else, or if anyone has researched this family and found info elsewhere? Thank you, Sallie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Awaiting results for Batch 575
I guess I am just impatient it seems like it said the results would be done in 1 to 2 weeks several weeks ago. I must have been really under 2 weeks ago. Does anyone else have results for familyfinder in batch 575? Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Maria de Jesus do Carmo (?-1875), born in Graciosa
Hi Everyone, In my wife's family tree she has an ancestor by the name of Maria de Jesus do Carmo born on the island of Graciosa( I estimate she was born about 1800 gave or take 10 years) and died in Terras, Lajes do Pico in 1875 she was married to Manuel Jose Pereira Fagundes(?-1857) his place of birth is unknown, they had two daughters named Isabel de Jesus born December 18, 1827 and Catarina de Jesus born March 4, 1831. Perhaps someone my have her in their family tree from Graciosa. I realize it is a long shot but you never know unless you try. Antonio -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1714-1724 Velas, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge Baptismo missing?
Thank you for letting me know that these records are no where to be found. Rather than stressing over my not being able to find them, it is a relief to know that I haven’t lost my mind. Although the records would have been very helpful, I will just guesstimate per your suggestion. Yes, I totally agree, the handwriting of that particular Priest is ridiculously unreadable. Sallie From: rcapodc Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:35 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1714-1724 Velas, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge Baptismo missing? Sallie, actually the missing years are from 1714—1724. There are no records for this time period. The books from 1634—1713 are really fragmented too and jump around a lot. It’s frustrating, I know, because I have lost a few grandparents in that period. Also, the Priest who wrote the records in the 1720’s has horrible handwriting! You may have to check out what you can and just guesstimate the birth. Rosemarie From: AndresWife Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:14 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1714-1724 Velas, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge Baptismo missing? I have been trying to find Estevao D Borba (abt 1723-1776) , son of Agostinho D Borba Maria Alves from Norte Grande. I have found siblings, but I can’t find him, and then noticed the listing for those years are missing. Has anyone else had a problem with these years? Just wondering if it was possibly put somewhere else, or if anyone has researched this family and found info elsewhere? Thank you, Sallie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria de Jesus do Carmo (?-1875), born in Graciosa
Hi Antonio,You are probably getting this information from the Pico database by NEPS and if so you should know how they generally do things.If they don't list her parents, then it might be because she was an exposta or her father was incognito.The thing to note is whether they have her marriage date. If they don't and if the baptisms of her children are not in the right time period when the grandparents are listed, then you just need to find their marriage to trace them back further. I am not looking at my database, so there is a chance I know them, but maybe not.Did you try and find the baptisms of any of their kids yet? And did it say where their father was born? It usually does in the 1800s, but nothing is ever 100%, so no doubt that information might be missing.One thing is the death date you have for her. In that time period, parents are always stated if they are known by the surviving family. They may be the wrong names, but still will be listed even if wrongly.If you can find any of the documents on the CCA but have trouble reading the script, give me the reference and I'll try my best.Doug da Rocha HolmesPico Terceira Genealogist=Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com= Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria de Jesus do Carmo (?-1875), born in Graciosa From: A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com Date: Sun, July 20, 2014 4:03 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi Everyone,In my wife's family tree she has an ancestor by the name of Maria de Jesus do Carmo born on the island of Graciosa( I estimate she was born about 1800 gave or take 10 years) and died in Terras, Lajes do Pico in 1875 she was married to Manuel Jose Pereira Fagundes(?-1857) his place of birth is unknown, they had two daughters named Isabel de Jesus born December 18, 1827 and Catarina de Jesus born March 4, 1831. Perhaps someone my have her in their family tree from Graciosa. I realize it is a long shot but you never know unless you try.Antonio -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Awaiting results for Batch 575
Marilyn, I.T. made a change. They used to put the due date. Then they changed it to a count down, but it wouldn't count. It only said 1-2 weeks, even when it was 5-6 weeks. I think part of batch 575 came in. Since I can see your due date was July 10th, I'll call and bug FTDNA. I have another question for them about a weird admin notification that we received the other day. I think I.T. has been tweaking the pages a bit too much. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Interpretation of surname LIMA
Lima also refers to limestone. Like a place name, such as Ponta do Lima. Limestone Point Eric Edgar On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:09 PM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hello, Barbara, I don't have the same document as Antonio, but I fully support his answer. The only correction I'd like to make is that Limia/Lima is not a land, but a river. There's a land in Spain called Xinzo de Limia, but there's also a Ponte de Lima. Your surname can descend from this guy's family or simply from others that lived in one of these towns. João Ventura http:// On Sunday, 20 July 2014 22:42:28 UTC+2, A Faria wrote: Hi Barbara According to a book I have on the Noble families of Portugal . The first person recorded with the surname Lima was D. Joao Fernandes de Lima,(the good). He was from the land of Limia(Lima) in Galicia. Lima is also the Portuguese word for Lime. Antonio On Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:15:52 AM UTC-7, Barbara Bluhm wrote: Hello, does anyone have an interpretation of the surname Lima or da Lima? A person has told me that Lima means wood? Responses appreciated, Thanks, Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Awaiting results for Batch 575
Yes, I'm in 575. I was sent a new sample collection kit 2 weeks ago. Eric Edgar On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: I guess I am just impatient it seems like it said the results would be done in 1 to 2 weeks several weeks ago. I must have been really under 2 weeks ago. Does anyone else have results for familyfinder in batch 575? Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage records, Reading of the banns
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803_item1/P39.html Right side of the page. My question: When it says the banns were read in a different village from the one where the marriage took place, how do I discern who was from that village? I know that normally, marriages took place in the bride's village, but I don't know if that holds true for all marriages. Is it possible to get a literal translation of sorts of the first 13 lines of that document? I have a word list from the LDS church, but I'd like to add to it with some of these words that may be archaic in use. Thank you very much. Suzanne Researching most of Sao Jorge. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Borges Goncalves, Altares Terceira Baptism
I have been looking for this man's baptism to no avail. His parents were Gregorio Goncalves and Maria December de Jesus. He was married to Carolina Bettencourt on July 17, 1911 in Terceira. He came to Massachusetts in 1911, and returned to Terceira a few years later. According to his granddaughter, his birthdate was July 15, 1886. According to ship records, it could be 1884. Was hoping someone had him in their tree and could point me in the right direction. I have looked at all Altares baptisms from 1882-1887. Thanks Gerri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Correia Borba born 7 July 1875 on Pico to California married Lemos
Repost for Edna Lemos Epps,dave-edna at comcast.net I don't suppose anyone has a connection with a Joseph Coreia Borba dob 7-7-1875 in Pico? I don't know village. He came to USA in 1891 and settled in Northern California, Yreka or Hawkinsville area in Siskiyou, County. He married a Emilia Rose Lemos there in 1910. Emilia is a sister to my Grandfather George Lemos. Just curious as I see the Borba name on here. ♥Edna Lemos Epps -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
Dan, Yes, they were. It appears that they discovered he wasn't baptized when he went to get married. All of his siblings were baptized except him. Don't know if the family all got sick, everyone was busy harvesting or what. No exact date was given, only the year. So he was baptized as an adult. Kinda weird for the 1820s, if memory serves me correctly. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.