Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1836 Baptism in Ribeira Quente on Sao Miguel island (way too much vinho)

I get 8th of February 1836 Na hora de seu nascimento. In the hour of his birth Sent from my iPad > On Dec 18, 2016, at 3:16 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Baptism of Manuel on the left: >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1836 Baptism in Ribeira Quente on Sao Miguel island (way too much vinho)

Cheri, your interpretation is not quite as documented. it says: ..nasceu aos oito dias do mez de Fevereiro de mil oito sento e trint e seis, e foi batizado em casa *por* Antonia de Jesus, casada, com Francisco Furtado em extrema necessidade.. ...born on the 8th day of the month of February

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with a record from Matriz de Sao Miguel, Vila Franco do Campo

Manuel Rodrigues was born- 06 Jan 1654; Ursula de Melo or Gonsalves was born- 02 Mar 1664. Parents marriages are lost in missing pages of Vila Franca, bet 1653-1658. Who are your ancestors before this marriage? JR On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:55:44 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote: > > Altino, > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1836 Baptism in Ribeira Quente on Sao Miguel island (way too much vinho)

Cheri, good to know it's straightened out. In your earlier email you were asking if JR had anything on Antonia Francisca married to Francisco Furtado and you were wondering why was Catarina having her child in this Antonia's house? Well she was not at Antonia's house. On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1836 Baptism in Ribeira Quente on Sao Miguel island (way too much vinho)

Yeah, that's what I have. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: > Cheri, your interpretation is not quite as

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1836 Baptism in Ribeira Quente on Sao Miguel island (way too much vinho)

Huh? The document says she was baptized at home by Antonia married to Francisco. Oh wait, I typed something different last night. Shouldn't be doing research after 10 pm! I was doing that at midnight because I couldn't sleep. Next time I'll just watch something boring on TV. Cheri Mello

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with a record from Matriz de Sao Miguel, Vila Franco do Campo

John, I have Manuel and Ursula's son Antonio marrying Maria de Medeiros (daughter ofAntonio de Medeiros and Barbara da Costa in Faja de Baixo on October 15th, 1717. Unfortunately, at this point I was stuck on both of these lines until I came across the Manuel & Ursula marriage in Villa Franca.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with a record from Matriz de Sao Miguel, Vila Franco do Campo

I'm sure you meant *Nov* 15- 1717. Try Ponta Delgada for loose ends. I have found some people from Faja de Biaxo in Sao Sebastiao. JR On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 7:16:08 PM UTC-5, Altino wrote: > > John, I have Manuel and Ursula's son Antonio marrying Maria de Medeiros > (daughter

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Felicissima or Felicisima

Margaret, In this case she looks like she's the same woman. Here's her marriage (left side) She's Felicia: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-C-1833-1860/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-C-1833-1860_item1/P52.html Here's kid #1, Francisco on the right. She's

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Louie, The original death record is at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889_item1/P149.html. There is no mention of “Fredona” but there is a reference to “faja redonda” in the context of where the house where Jose

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Well, the first glaring error is that the date should be 18*3*1-- I thought I'd fixed that, but no. :) Linda On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 10:18:26 AM UTC-8, linda wrote: > > > Hi Louie, > > Here's my transcription and translation of the record you posted: > > > Sabina filha de Pascoal

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Cheri, I hate to disagree with you as your track record is so good, but there are children without fathers listed. Maybe not all are listed. In fact, some are listed without either parent as in the case of expostos. At least, in the records for Pico where I did my research. Gayle > On

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Cheri, Yes, I saw errors too ... lots of them ... that is beside my question because I am verifying each of my family members with baptism, marriage, death, etc. on the CCA site. I was being specific about the term "rs/Redonda". Is that not a genealogy term? If not and you know someone here

[AZORES-Genealogy] 1836 Baptism in Ribeira Quente on Sao Miguel island (way too much vinho)

Baptism of Manuel on the left: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1821-1837/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1821-1837_item1/P176.html 8th line from the signature on the bottom: nasceu aos ioto??? or is that supposed to be dezeoito? Or just aos oito? Next line: He

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Felicissima or Felicisima

Still double S FeliSSima. You're welcome.! On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > What is the modern spelling of Felicissima? Is it with a double S > (Felicissima) or a single S (Felicisima)? > Thanks! > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Felicissima or Felicisima

Cheri, Careful, Felicia is another form of the name but it does not mean it is modern spelling of Felicissima. I may be named Felicissima and my sister Felicia. Two (2) similar but different names. Spelling is Felicia. On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Felicissima or Felicisima

He name is neither. At baptism she was named "Felicidade" http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1821-1837/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1821-1837_item1/P54.html On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Margaret, > > In this

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Felicissima or Felicisima

LOL, Cheri. In mine I usually record the 'original' name and follow RR's lead which in this case is Felicidade, or Felicia, or Felicissima. On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: > I have a great that is Cecilia and the priests spell it about 5

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Felicissima or Felicisima

She's not my ancestor (not that I know of). She the mother of someone who married a sibling of one of my line and I was fixing the spelling and opened up this whole can of worms! Just to thinkthis woman lived her life in an identity crisis! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Antonio translation #64

Thanks for these. I've not ever researched in Santa Maria and they are a little bit different and the names are foreign to me so getting used to it all. funny how each place is just a bit different and seems each decade is different too. Thanks again Liz On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Ângela

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anna Cabral

No i have not made an attempt to look for them yet On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 2:32:41 AM UTC-5, LouieLouieOhOh wrote: > > Paul, > > I meant no disrespect ... it is amazing how long you have researched! I > will keep an eye out for Anna! > > Have you found "Antonio Cabral Silva and Anna

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with a record from Matriz de Sao Miguel, Vila Franco do Campo

Hi everyone, I was hoping i could get some help in terms deciphering the names of the parents of a couple from a marriage record in Vila Franco do Campo. The record is on the top left page, here:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1836 Baptism in Ribeira Quente on Sao Miguel island (way too much vinho)

I think this may be Francisco Caetano Furtado cc Antonia Jacinta [or de Jesus] in Ponta Garca, Dec 18- 1808, page pg 178. He is filho de Caetano Furtado [Roia] and Felicia Rosa Melo; she is filha de Antonio Rego Barbosa and Constancia Rosa de Jesus. JR On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 12:57:54

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Felicissima or Felicisima

Haven't worked the far back yet. So far, on 5 kids she's Felicissima. It's probably different priests recording it differently. This poor woman - they don't have her name straight :( Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Antonio translation #64

That's so true, Liz, each island has names that are more true to their island than to all. You might want to look at that center part of the Portuguese Paleography where is lists the given and surnames. Sometimes you can find the name there and at least get close to the correct name/spelling! See

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with a record from Matriz de Sao Miguel, Vila Franco do Campo

Groom's mom might be Catharina de Morais. I don't think it says ja defuncta. Bride's dad: Manuel Fernandez? Ferreira? Ff- something. Parishioner of Furnas, I think. Mom is Maria de Mello. Unless you've had too much vinho (it's past 5 pm in the Azores). Then she can be Manria :) Probably you

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Another reason abbreviations are bad. I don't remember ever seeing a key or legend on the CITCEM site that explains the abbreviations. In books (such as Rodrigo Rodrigues) there was a page of abbreviations in the front (or maybe the back) of the published book. I like that! Cheri Mello Listowner,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Felicissima or Felicisima

And the modern spelling for Felecia is Felicia? I was fixing the spellings in my database. After a while I don't know if I'm reading in Portuguese or English anymore. Now that it's the morning, Felicia looks right to me, but I think that's how it's spelled in English. Thanks! Cheri Cheri Mello

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Felicissima or Felicisima

Yeah, just as I went to type this, I realized it was Felicia. Caffeine is kicking in! LOL Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Margaret Vicente

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1836 Baptism in Ribeira Quente on Sao Miguel island (way too much vinho)

Do you have anything on this Antonia de Jesus, wife of Francisco Furtado? Why was Catarina there? (Duh, to have her baby). Why them? Women are usually in labor for several hours. I would *think* she'd be at the house of her sister or sister-in-law, but it could be anybody. I've got the goods on

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Felicissima or Felicisima

I have a great that is Cecilia and the priests spell it about 5 different ways at least! Change the 'c' to 's' and the 'i' to 'y' and you get the idea!! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Hi Louie, Here's my transcription and translation of the record you posted: Sabina filha de Pascoal Machado Men- donca, e de sua mulher Margarida Rosa am- bos naturaes da Paroquial Igreja de S. Tiago do lugar da R.a Secca termo da V.a da Calhe ta da Ilha de S. Jorge, freguezes desta Pa

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with a record from Matriz de Sao Miguel, Vila Franco do Campo

Altino, Manuel Roiz (Rodrigues) son of Sebastiao Rodrigues, deceased, and of his wife Catarina de Morais with, Ursula de Melo daughter of Manuel Fernandes boquinha (nick), decased and of his wife Maria de Melo.. On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Groom's

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Cheri, The confusion may stem from the book to database transition. In Amorim's book, the genealogical info was shown as an appendix. Children of unknown parentage were not listed. (Only family groups appeared.) Maybe some slipped in, but not many. The database allowed more fields to be

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Gayle, OK, yes, it's coming back to me. That's what it was... no pai(s) incognito(s) in the book. I probably over applied the memory to include the CITCEM. You use it more than me, so you would know that kind of stuff. Still don't know for sure what freguesia Louie is in and I'm going off to

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1836 Baptism in Ribeira Quente on Sao Miguel island (way too much vinho)

"a os outo dias". You can see the format more clearly on next page. "em extrema necesidade, na hora de seo nascimento" (in extreme need at time of his birth. Literally it would be at hour of his birth) JR On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:16:43 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Baptism of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Gayle, I know they have added some. I know the initial project didn't really include them. Or maybe it's only some freguesias. I don't utilize the database that much because I don't have family there. I use it to help researchers here. So you would know more than I would. I remember in the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

You are typing "Redonda" and the site says "Fredonda." Which one do you want? Redonda means round in Portuguese. Fredonda is not a word. Neither is a genealogy term. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

No, if he died at sea he wouldn't be recorded as dying in a particular freguesia because he did not die there. Records at sea are recorded differently. It wouldn't be in CITCEM. Read Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records" and John P. Colletta's "They Came in Ships" is you think

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Louie et al I think I can help. It's in short form. rs/Fredonda He dies in rs=Ribeira seca Fredonda = Faja Redonda On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:37 AM, LouieLouieOhOh wrote: > Thanks Cheri ... > > I'll look for his death record ... there is a ship named Fredonia ... >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Louie, Before you actually get to this page, assuming you're the one going through the process as opposed to someone simply sending you a link to this one page, there will be a page with a slew of flags near the top of the page. If you click on the Union Jack, the subsequent pages will appear

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

To be honest ... what started me on this particular journey ... was the baptism record for Sabina (bottom left of this record. She "appears" to be my 2X Great grandmother.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Thanks Cheri ... I'll look for his death record ... there is a ship named Fredonia ... maybe he died at sea? and the story goes on ... Louie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

Linda, Is it possible for the link below to be Sabinas Mom and Dad? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849_item1/P4.html It is the only Pascoal I have been able to find before Sabinas baptism (1831) in Ribeira Seca.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1836 Baptism in Ribeira Quente on Sao Miguel island (way too much vinho)

Oh wow, going over my work from late last night. No more research for me after 10 pm! I couldn't figure out why no babies were recorded in the death books. They are all there, with the word "anjo" after their name! Midnight is wy too late to be thinking! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FARIA from Contra Costa, CA

My Great Grandfather is Anthony Faria Emma and Manuals son. My mom Lisa Faria said that Emma did alot on her own because Manual walked out or left them. I never heard of him dying but the family grew up very poor. My mom said that Emma was very kind and had a sign she would hang outside that

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Antonio translation #64

Ressurreição translates toresurrection so perhaps Filomena was bornor baptized on Easter. From: Elizabeth Migliori To: "azores@googlegroups.com" Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Antonio

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Can you tell me what this means

Well thank all of you very much!!! That's a good feeling! Louie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with a record from Matriz de Sao Miguel, Vila Franco do Campo

Will do. Yes, I have found in other records that sometimes missing persons can be found in nearby parishes. Thanks everyone for your help. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 18, 2016, at 2:40 PM, 'Altino' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I was hoping i