Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage records

2010-01-14 Thread marralha
In a message dated 1/14/2010 1:12:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
tish.me...@gmail.com writes: 
 Hi, You have made my year... and it's only Jan. 13th! I can now go to FHC 
 and photograph those records. I'm sure my cousin will be overjoyed, too.
  Thank you oh so much,
 Tish
 
Could this be the people you are looking for?

7 - Manuel de Sousa Figueiredo, capt, m. 1st time in Vila do Porto to 
Isabel de Chaves Meneses, and the 2nd time in Vila do Porto on ?.5.1716 to 
Isabel 
Nunes de Braga, 
From the first marriage:
8 - Margarida de Chaves orde Sousa, married in Vila do Porto on 
21.9.1709 ro capt.  Manuel de Sousa Resendes 
8 - Isabel de Chaves Meneses, 
8 - Maria Josefa de Figueiredo, married in Vila do Porto on 30.7.1727 
to Diogo Velho de Sousa 

If it is let me know. I may be able to help.

John Miranda Raposo
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico

2010-01-14 Thread Vivian Christy
Gayle,  Sorry I forget that age is something we don't want everyone to know 
especially on the web.  Forgive me.  Vivian

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From: Gayle Machado gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 7:42 PM


Vivian,

I'll try to find out if she knows Bernadette. My guess is yes, because 
Rosemarie seems to know everybody. Yes, I know how old Rosemarie is - she's 2 
days older than I am. We're not that much younger than you are. But, I'd rather 
not publish my age here and now. ;-) 

Gayle


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Gayle,  Does she know Mary Bezerra's Daughter Bernadette Bezerra?  When I was 
about 12, 13 or so we used to spend the summers at my Aunt Mary Bezerra's Farm 
in Laton. Really she is not my Aunt but we all called her aunt Mary.  I talked 
to her about a month ago. She is the sweetest person you would ever want to 
know.  I was trying to think if I remember seeing a Rosemarie when I was 
young.  I am 65 so it was a long time ago. How old is Rosemarie?  Thank you, 
Vivian

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From: Gayle Machado gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:48 PM


Vivian and Al,

To my knowledge I am not related to Mary (Machado) Bezzera, but one of my 
co-workers is her niece. Rosemarie Bezzera-Nader is an instructor here at FCC 
and says that her aunt is a wonderful person. Unfortunately, Rosemarie hasn't 
paid much attention to her family history and only knows that her father came 
from Pico, nothing more. Just thought I'd throw this info into the mix. ;-)

Gayle



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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico

2010-01-14 Thread Vivian Christy
Gayle,  Thank you for the info.  I will check it out and let you know if I find 
anything.  I do not know if he used another name or not.  Vivian

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From: Gayle Machado gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
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Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:04 PM


Vivian,

The book is called Our Portuguese Heritage, an informal genealogy of the 3000 
families on Martha's Vineyard. Marianne Holmes Thomas is the author. It was 
published by CHiP (The Community History Project) of Edgartown, MA. I bought 
the first two-volume set in 1996 for about $75. Its since been updated. I 
believe you can find the entire book online. Try googling Portuguese on 
Martha's Vineyard and see if it comes up. If not, google my name. The last time 
I did that, the fourth listing was my family's entry in the book.

I looked for Antone Rose and did not find him in the first edition. But, there 
were also some families with the surname Rosa, which you could check. Let me 
know if you find anything.

Gayle


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Sent: Wed 1/13/2010 6:52 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico

Gayle,
 
I don't know about a book of Martha Vineyard's portuguese.  My g. grandmother 
who was Mary (Rose) Silva was born in Mass. abt 1865-1875 I have been looking 
for her birth record but have not found it yet. Her father Antone Rose not sure 
when he was born but was born in the Azores. He started buying property abt 
1880 in cottage city, Edgartown, Tisbury  Oak Bluffs.  Because he ran away 
with another women and was never heard from again or thats the story we heard. 
His wife Antonia Rose do not know her maiden name. In 1985 our family was 
notified that property taxes had not been paid on the property left and was 
auctioned off.  She was unable to pay the taxes and no one in our family was 
notified until it was to late.  So I do not know much about that side of the 
family and could not find him in the census records.  Don't know when he came 
to this country just that him, his wife and one son came here from the Azores. 
I did find some birth records for
Mary Rose but the Mothers name does not match.  I don't know what he did for a 
living either. I know we are suppose to have relatives there by the last name 
of Rose but have not made any connections yet.  Just not enough info yet.  Well 
someday maybe I will find out. Thanks for your help.  Vivian (Silva) Christy

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From: Gayle Machado gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 7:27 AM


Vivian,

If you have family from Martha's Vineyard, are they listed in the book about 
the Portuguese from Martha's Vineyard ?
My dad had a cousin named Mary Silva (I have a picture of her and one of her 
children as an infant) but I know nothing about this side of the family. I seem 
to remember him saying she was a Morris cousin who married a Silva, but I 
couldn't swear to it. Also, supposedly, some of the family were Silveira's who 
changed their name to Silva. But, I have no info on any of them.

Gayle



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico

2010-01-14 Thread Gayle Machado
Vivian,

That wasn¹t it at all. The one coming up is one I¹m not quite ready to face.
;-)

Gayle



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico

2010-01-14 Thread Gayle Machado
Vivian,

I spoke with Rosemarie just a few minutes ago. As I suspected, she does know
Bernadette. In fact, she says they are close. They spoke just two days ago.

Gayle



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage records

2010-01-14 Thread Tish M
Hi,
You are right on. These are the people I am looking for.
I have yet to really look at much of Vila do Porto on the films, but
after my cataract surgery next week my husband and I will look in
earnest.
Thank you very much,
Tish

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:10 AM, marra...@cs.com wrote:

 In a message dated 1/14/2010 1:12:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
 tish.me...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi, You have made my year... and it's only Jan. 13th! I can now go to FHC
 and photograph those records. I'm sure my cousin will be overjoyed, too.
 Thank you oh so much,
 Tish


 Could this be the people you are looking for?

 7 - Manuel de Sousa Figueiredo, capt, m. 1st time in Vila do Porto to
 Isabel de Chaves Meneses, and the 2nd time in Vila do Porto on ?.5.1716 to
 Isabel Nunes de Braga,
 From the first marriage:
 8 - Margarida de Chaves orde Sousa, married in Vila do Porto on 21.9.1709
 ro capt.  Manuel de Sousa Resendes
 8 - Isabel de Chaves Meneses,
 8 - Maria Josefa de Figueiredo, married in Vila do Porto on 30.7.1727 to
 Diogo Velho de Sousa

 If it is let me know. I may be able to help.

 John Miranda Raposo

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage records

2010-01-14 Thread marralha
In a message dated 1/14/2010 3:05:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
tish.me...@gmail.com writes: 
 Hi,You are right on. These are the people I am looking for.
  I have yet to really look at much of Vila do Porto on the films, but
 after my cataract surgery next week my husband and I will look in
  earnest. 
 Thank you very much,
 Tish
 


Here is what I have; it took me 3 hours to extract it all and type it in 
this e-mail; I hope it helps. The primary source is Rodrigo Rodrigues. Good 
luck!

John Miranda Raposo

1 - Domingos Fernandes, knight, as noted on the will he made with his 
wife in Vila do Porto on  2.9.1560 (or 1562 ?). Native of Madeira, among the 
first settlers in Santo Espírito, (See Frutuoso, Livro III, Cap.º V) maybe a 
grandson of Genes Curvelo  Married in Santa Maria to Margarida Afonso, 
daughter of Duarte Nunes Velho (See (Sanches de Baena, Archivo 
Heraldico-Genealógico, pp. 636); 

They had:

2 - Marquesa Fernandes, made her will on 18.2.1583 in Santa Maria, with 
her husband Baltazar Velho de Andrade 

2 - Manuel Fernandes Faleiro, second son of his father, made a will on 
16.1.1596. (See Frutuoso Livro III, Cap.º V). He was first married to 
Bárbara Velho and then to Maria Velho, a Velha.

By his second wife he had:

3 - Helena Fernandes de Melo or Velho was first married in Vila Porto 
em 1600, to Fernão Vaz de Santo Espírito (?) and the 2nd time in Matriz de 
Vila Porto on 23.9.1609, to Manuel Pires Faleiro, son of Domingos Pires de 
Chaves and Clara Melõa or Manuel granddaughter of Manuel Pires do Campo.

From her 2nd husband:

4 - Manuel de Melo Chaves, living in Flor da Rosa and married to Maria 
de Magalhães Bettencourt.

They had:

4 - Margarida de Chaves, married in Matriz de Vila Porto in 1661 to 
António Soares de Sousa Falcão 

They had:

5 - Isabel de Chaves, married to Manuel de Sousa Figueiredo.



1 - João da Fonte das Cortes, one of the first settlers in Santa Maria 
(See Frutuoso Liv.º II Cap.º III § XIX). Married Inês Afonso.

Parents of:

2 - Álvaro da Fonte, o Velho, a judge in Vila do Porto, on 25.11.1519 
(See Arquivo dos Açores Vol. I p. 72 and Vid. Frutuoso, Liv.º III Chapters 
III § XIX  V § XVIII, Cap.º IX § II and Liv.º IV Chapter XIII § I. 

He had by one of his two wives:


3 - Inês de Fontes, married Baltazar Curvelo, o Gago, of Almagreira.

They had:

4 - Manuel Curvelo, married Isabel Gonçalves de Moura.

They had:

5 - António Curvelo de Moura, married in Vila do Porto on 21.3.1612 to  
Catarina Meloa, daughter of Domingos Pires de Chaves and Clara Meloa.

Parents of:

6 - Francisco Curvelo de Moura married 1st in Vila do Porto on 
9.10.1645 to Maria de Andrade, daughter of  Manuel Curvelo Faleiro and Isabel 
de 
Andrade Velho  and then to Serafina de Figueiredo.

By the 2nd wife:

7 - Manuel de Sousa Figueiredo, Capt., who married 1st in Vila do Porto to 
Isabel de Chaves Meneses, and then in Vila do Porto on ?.5.1716 to Isabel 
Nunes de Braga, 


---

1 - Fernão Velho, knight in the order if Santiago, son of Gonçalo 
Velho, [see Crónica de D. Dinis, Livro III, pp. 7 v.º ] (bastard of João Velho 
de 
Santa Logriça) and his wife  Margarida Anes de Urró. He married Maria 
Álvares Cabral, daughter of Álvaro Gil Cabral, and ? Figueiredo daughter of  
Diogo Afonso de Figueiredo.

Parents of:

2 - Violante Velho Cabral lived in Portugal where she married Diogo 
Gonçalves de Travassos, (Forrester of Prince D. Pedro, Duke of Coimbra) son of 
Martim Gonçalves de Travassos, a nobleman of Portugal and Catarina Dias de 
Melo, (See Frutuoso Livro IV, Cap.º 3.º) 

Parents of: 

3 - Nuno Velho de Travassos or Nuno Velho Cabral, who came as a child 
to Santa Maria with his uncle Gonçalo Velho Cabral. Married for the first 
time in S. Miguel to Isabel Afonso, for the 2nd time on S. Miguel to África 
Anes, who came with her father Gonçalo Anes, of Cernandessa, Portugal, to Santa 
Maria,  

By his 2nd wife he had:

4 - Duarte Nunes Velho, knight, resident of Malbusca, made his will as 
a widower on 18.10.1554, when he was more than 90 years old. Married in 
Portugal for the first time to Isabel Fernandes, and then to Catarina 
Gonçalves, 
daughter of Gonçalo Álvares (See Frutuoso, Livro III, Caps. III, V, VI, 
XII, XVI, XVII, XVIII e Livro IV, Cap. III).

4 - Grimanesa Afonso de Melo married (Frutuoso, Livro. III, Cap.º III). 
Lourenço Anes de Sá Leonardes, native of Praia, Ilha Terceira, 

They had :

5 - Briloanja Nunes (See Sanches de Baena, Carta de Brasão de Armas, 
Archivo Heraldico-Genealógico, p. 636). Married in S. Miguel com Manuel 
Romeiro, o Velho.

They had:
6 - Manuel Romeiro Velho, capt., married to  Maria Velho de Melo.

They had:

7 - 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage records

2010-01-14 Thread Tish M
Thank you is such a small response to the mounds of information you have
sent to me. I feel so humbled to have received such a wonderful present and
will spend many an hour pouring through your three hours of work.
I went on line and looked at the articles you have written and was also
humbled by your wealth of information. I hope you will write more about the
islands history and the wonderful people I am proud to be a part of.
Thank you again,
Tish

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:50 PM, marra...@cs.com wrote:

 In a message dated 1/14/2010 3:05:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
 tish.me...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi,You are right on. These are the people I am looking for.

 I have yet to really look at much of Vila do Porto on the films, but
 after my cataract surgery next week my husband and I will look in
 earnest.
 Thank you very much,
 Tish




 Here is what I have; it took me 3 hours to extract it all and type it in
 this e-mail; I hope it helps. The primary source is Rodrigo Rodrigues. Good
 luck!

 John Miranda Raposo

 1 - Domingos Fernandes, knight, as noted on the will he made with his wife
 in Vila do Porto on  2.9.1560 (or 1562 ?). Native of Madeira, among the
 first settlers in Santo Espírito, (See Frutuoso, Livro III, Cap.º V) maybe a
 grandson of Genes Curvelo  Married in Santa Maria to Margarida Afonso,
 daughter of *Duarte Nunes Velho *(See (Sanches de Baena, *Archivo
 Heraldico-Genealógico*, pp. 636);

 They had:

 2 - *Marquesa Fernandes*, made her will on 18.2.1583 in Santa Maria, with
 her husband Baltazar Velho de Andrade

 2 - Manuel Fernandes Faleiro, second son of his father, made a will on
 16.1.1596. (See Frutuoso Livro III, Cap.º V). He was first married to
 Bárbara Velho and then to Maria Velho, a Velha.

 By his second wife he had:

 3 - Helena Fernandes de Melo or Velho was first married in Vila Porto em
 1600, to Fernão Vaz de Santo Espírito (?) and the 2nd time in Matriz de Vila
 Porto on 23.9.1609, to Manuel Pires Faleiro, son of Domingos Pires de Chaves
 and Clara Melõa or Manuel granddaughter of Manuel Pires do Campo.

 From her 2nd husband:

 4 - Manuel de Melo Chaves, living in Flor da Rosa and married to *Maria de
 Magalhães Bettencourt.*

 They had:

 4 - Margarida de Chaves, married in Matriz de Vila Porto in 1661 to *António
 Soares de Sousa Falcão
 *
 They had:

 5 - *Isabel de Chaves, married to Manuel de Sousa Figueiredo.*


 
 1 - João da Fonte das Cortes, one of the first settlers in Santa Maria (See
 Frutuoso Liv.º II Cap.º III § XIX). Married *Inês Afonso.*

 Parents of:

 2 - Álvaro da Fonte, o Velho, a judge in Vila do Porto, on 25.11.1519 (See
 Arquivo dos Açores Vol. I p. 72 and Vid. Frutuoso, Liv.º III Chapters III §
 XIX  V § XVIII, Cap.º IX § II and Liv.º IV Chapter XIII § I.

 He had by one of his two wives:


 3 - Inês de Fontes, married Baltazar Curvelo, o Gago, of Almagreira.

 They had:

 4 - Manuel Curvelo, married Isabel Gonçalves de Moura.

 They had:

 5 - António Curvelo de Moura, married in Vila do Porto on 21.3.1612 to
 Catarina Meloa, daughter of Domingos Pires de Chaves and Clara Meloa.

 Parents of:

 6 - Francisco Curvelo de Moura married 1st in Vila do Porto on 9.10.1645 to
 Maria de Andrade, daughter of  Manuel Curvelo Faleiro and Isabel de Andrade
 Velho  and then to *Serafina de Figueiredo*.

 By the 2nd wife:

 7 - Manuel de Sousa Figueiredo, Capt., who married 1st in Vila do Porto to
 *Isabel de Chaves Meneses*, and then in Vila do Porto on ?.5.1716 to
 Isabel Nunes de Braga,


 ---

 1 - Fernão Velho, knight in the order if Santiago, son of Gonçalo Velho,
 [see Crónica de D. Dinis, Livro III, pp. 7 v.º ] (bastard of João Velho de
 Santa Logriça) and his wife  Margarida Anes de Urró. He married Maria
 Álvares Cabral, daughter of Álvaro Gil Cabral, and ? Figueiredo daughter of
 Diogo Afonso de Figueiredo.

 Parents of:

 2 - Violante Velho Cabral lived in Portugal where she married Diogo
 Gonçalves de Travassos, (Forrester of Prince D. Pedro, Duke of Coimbra) son
 of Martim Gonçalves de Travassos, a nobleman of Portugal and Catarina Dias
 de Melo, (See Frutuoso Livro IV, Cap.º 3.º)

 Parents of:

 3 - Nuno Velho de Travassos or Nuno Velho Cabral, who came as a child to
 Santa Maria with his uncle *Gonçalo Velho Cabral*. Married for the first
 time in S. Miguel to Isabel Afonso, for the 2nd time on S. Miguel to África
 Anes, who came with her father Gonçalo Anes, of Cernandessa, Portugal, to
 Santa Maria,

 By his 2nd wife he had:

 4 - *Duarte Nunes Velho*, knight, resident of Malbusca, made his will as a
 widower on 18.10.1554, when he was more than 90 years old. Married in
 Portugal for the first time to Isabel Fernandes, and then to Catarina
 Gonçalves, daughter of Gonçalo Álvares (See Frutuoso, Livro 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico

2010-01-14 Thread Vivian Christy
Gayle,
 
Oh I had that problem about 5 yrs ago.  Vivian

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From: Gayle Machado gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:18 AM


Vivian,

That wasn’t it at all. The one coming up is one I’m not quite ready to face. ;-)

Gayle



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico

2010-01-14 Thread Vivian Christy
Gayle,
 
Ask Rosemarie to tell Bernadette to answer my last email. I know she must be 
busy but last time it took her over a Month or two to get back to me.  But like 
I said I know she is busy and I have not seen her since I was about 15 yrs 
old.  Long time ago.  One of these days I will get a chance to go and see her 
and Aunt Mary.  Maybe sometime this year.  Thanks for all your help.  I did 
look at the site you gave me for Portuguese in Martha's Vineyard.  I did see a 
Antone J Rose but not sure if it is the same one.  I will do some more 
searching and check out the books to see if I can find anything.
 
Thank you again, Vivian

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From: Gayle Machado gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:20 AM


Vivian,

I spoke with Rosemarie just a few minutes ago. As I suspected, she does know 
Bernadette. In fact, she says they are close. They spoke just two days ago.

Gayle



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