[AZORES-Genealogy] Torres, Vivieiros born 1840s from Sao Miguel island,

[Cheri Mello]

Repost for Dave Brown, davesalaska at gmail.com

I am still looking for more information for my mothers Great Great
Grandmother, Maria Torres (born 1846).  She was married I believe to Joseph
or Jose Viveiros.  He was born in 1841 in San Miguel.  I have no record of
marriage or death for either.  Joseph shows up on the 1900 Federal Census
for Oakland, Alameda Co. California living with his daughter Muriel.  He
lists himself as a widower.  I have a theory that Maria passed away and
didn't immigrate to the US.  Any help would be appreciated!

Sincerely,

David R. Brown

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] explanation

[Margaret Vicente]

Hello Gordon,

In reading the excerpt, it gives me the impression of loss of
content/nuances due to its translation. Can you post the statement portion
you wish to have clarification on in its original language (presuming it is
Portuguesese).

Having said that, I think you got the gist of it but some of it doesn't
make sense.

Any/all relationships outside the marriage are adulterous. Adulterinos is
the Portuguese word for children born as a result.  Doutrine is the
Portuguese word for Doctrine which may mean something else and "sertao" is
the semi desert area in the North East (Nordeste) of Brazil.




On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Gordon Soares 
wrote:

> *In the will of my 5th GGF ;Henrique da Cunha there is a section which I
> don’t totally understand. I DO understand the 3 daughters and son born from
> his “black” but do not understand the terms: adulterinos, doutrine
> and sertao. (see below)*
>
>
> *Am I understanding correctly that Henrique is asking his oldest son to
> take care of his “kids” from “ he black” and that his third wife Maria da
> Pina gave him no sons or daughters so he had these additional children
> because of that?  And he is asking his children to respect the slave’s
> children (later called Mamluks in the will) as a respect to their real
> mother? Does departure to the sertao mean some place where the slaves were
> kept?*
>
> *The language is a bit awkward and I want to be sure I understand the
> situation and just as important where all these children—legitimate
> and illegitimate - are within my tree.*
>
>
> *Gordon Soares*
>
>
> *From the will of Henrique da Cunha: 1623 *
>
>
> *I declare that I have two more girls by name a Antonia and the other
> Ursula and another boy named Antonio who are sons of my black of my house
> ... ... ... go with my oldest son because I think in my conscience be my
> kids and are adulterinos which let your brother Henrique da Cunha the
> doutrine as their brethren who are and declare more be married a third time
> with Maria da Pina my lawfully wedded wife which I had no son or daughters
> saved my departure to the sertão could generate I ask my kids and everyone
> in general have respect as your mother.(missing rows in the original)*
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mount Carmel in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Joseph Mendonca]

Yes.

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 4:06 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Would that be Father John Mendonca from Fall River?
>
> John Miranda Raposo
>
>
> On Monday, March 27, 2017 10:46 AM, Joseph Mendonca <
> jemendonca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Let me have it Cheri.  I'll give it a try. I know Fr. Jack casually.  He's
> an acquaintance of my brother who is a priest in Toronto.
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> I called and emailed the church secretary at Mount Carmel in New Bedford 2
> months ago. I requested a marriage and specified that I really needed the
> information that said where the bride and groom were born. She never
> fulfilled my request.
>
> So is anyone going there who can ask Fr. Oliveira to look up the marriage
> in the book and read it to you while you take notes? Email me and I'll
> provide the particulars. I don't need 5 people all asking them the same
> thing.
>
> Thanks, Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to Group Silva (Pico) and Avila (Sao Jorge) families

[Shirley Allegre]

My cousin was born and raised in Mission San Jose.  They wouldn't let her 
look at the records either.

Such a shame.
Shirley in CA
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to Group Silva (Pico) and Avila (Sao 
Jorge) families



Hi Kellie,

I am off on a trip and don't have my computer but checked the 1900 census on 
my phone:) and I don't see Emeryville It says Washington Township. I am 
glad you found the will!


On Mission San Jose, I have had a few "run ins" with them. They are very 
protective of their records and have one person who supposedly will check 
for you. Last year I had reason to communicate with this person because of a 
funeral I was arranging and asked her if she would check on a couple of old 
burial records as only the church has those for their cemetery. She said it 
might take awhile, this was over a year agono word! I had a real 
meltdown in their office maybe 15 years ago when my aunt, a lifelong 
parishioner, had asked if I could search. They told her ok but when I 
arrived from out of town, they changed their mind when they found out I 
wanted to see more than one record (my whole family was from there for 
generations). I had to ask (the info was not offered) if they had ever been 
microfilmed and THEN I was told that try had been and were at St Patrick's 
Seminary in Menlo Park. So I and many others enjoyed a time of access but 
recently I've read on this group that they no longer allow personal searches 
in Menlo Park either. It was nice while it lasted! They may allow requests 
but as far as being an altar boy, I doubt that there would be any evidence. 
From my understanding they had only sacramental records filmed (why they 

don't have the burials).

Do you have Manuel and Mariana's marriage record? If they married in the 
US... It could have been in MSJ or maybe Holy Spirit since he was buried 
there. I've seen the island listed on some marriages but not the village.


I looked at the UPEC records of Newark but did not see your Manuel Perry 
Silva ...quite often they give the village. It would be worth your time to 
look through the membership records of the UPEC in those other towns like 
Centerville and Mission San

Jose.or even the other towns just to rule that out.

I'm always interested in the Portuguese of this area where my family 
settled:)


Best of luck
Susan

Here is the top of that 1900 census page:

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On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Kellie Crnkovich  
wrote:


Susan Emeryville is listed in the top of the census records. That is why I 
put it there. He is buried at Holy Ghost Crmetary in Fremont. I lived in 
Stockton until 7 years ago when I moved to Kansas. I do have cousins in 
Bay Area as well we are all stumped. Grandpa wouldn't even teach his kids 
Portuguese he said we're American and we speak English. The will would be 
his I haven't found that can you tell me where you found it? They were in 
Washington Township. I know they had a farm that they sold for good money 
when the interstate was going in. Manuel's brothers had neighboring farms. 
Manuel also owned a bar and stables in town I believe Newark it later 
became a strip club called the Foxy Lady or something like that lol. 
Grandpa was an alter boy at Mission San Jose I am going to write them and 
see if they have any info on Manuel maybe there is something there.


Thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to Group Silva (Pico) and Avila (Sao Jorge) families

[Kellie Crnkovich]

Thank you Susan. I typed the census info in probably 10 or more years ago. I 
had not been able to do any research for several years and just got back into 
it so I don't know. I will change it. From the will I did get that it was 
Manuel Pereira Silva which I had always assumed but family always just said 
Perry. So that was good. I was hoping the Mission was better now when I had 
tried years ago I could not get any info. 

I did find the index for marriage cert on Ancestry list wife M De N Avila 
(Mariana) not spelled out
Has number 4295 on the left side of the record and book N Page 431 in the 
record. Can I get this from Alameda viral records?

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alexandrina birth translation

['Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy]

Thank you Bill you are such a great help. I am slowly getting my reading 
skills back lol but my eyes are not what they were.

julzz

On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 2:49:43 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Julzz,
>
> You have the year correct and are close on the dates.
>
> Born on 24 November and baptized on 26 November 1865.
>
> Parents Jose Correia, field worker, and Maria de Jesus, domestic 
> occupation, who are natives of this parish where they married, are 
> parishioners, and are residents in "Oiteiro".
>  
> Paternal grandparents: Jose Correia and Victoria de Jesus
> Maternal grandparents: Antonio Fernandes and Maria Ricarda
>
> Godparents: Francisco Fernandes, single, field worker, and Alexandrina de 
> Jesus, single
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alexandrina birth translation

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Julzz,

You have the year correct and are close on the dates.

Born on 24 November and baptized on 26 November 1865.

Parents Jose Correia, field worker, and Maria de Jesus, domestic 
occupation, who are natives of this parish where they married, are 
parishioners, and are residents in "Oiteiro".
 
Paternal grandparents: Jose Correia and Victoria de Jesus
Maternal grandparents: Antonio Fernandes and Maria Ricarda

Godparents: Francisco Fernandes, single, field worker, and Alexandrina de 
Jesus, single

Bill Seidler

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Alexandrina birth translation

['Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy]

I need help with translation. I think the birth was on the 22nd of Nov 1865 
and bap was on 24 of nov same year but not sure on the year. I can read her 
parents but not sure on her grandparents and god parents. 
Thank you

Bottom right # 153
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1860-1869/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1860-1869_item1/P318.html

Julzz

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mount Carmel in New Bedford, Massachusetts

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

Would that be Father John Mendonca from Fall River?
John Miranda Raposo
 

On Monday, March 27, 2017 10:46 AM, Joseph Mendonca 
 wrote:
 

 Let me have it Cheri.  I'll give it a try. I know Fr. Jack casually.  He's an 
acquaintance of my brother who is a priest in Toronto.
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

I called and emailed the church secretary at Mount Carmel in New Bedford 2 
months ago. I requested a marriage and specified that I really needed the 
information that said where the bride and groom were born. She never fulfilled 
my request.

So is anyone going there who can ask Fr. Oliveira to look up the marriage in 
the book and read it to you while you take notes? Email me and I'll provide the 
particulars. I don't need 5 people all asking them the same thing.

Thanks, Cheri
Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Prainha Do Norte, Sao Roque, Pico Baptism Record 1904

[linda meneses]

Hooray! :D

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:13 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Just want to thank you all again for your help.  I did find the baptism
> record I was looking for. Yippee!!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to Group Silva (Pico) and Avila (Sao Jorge) families

[Kellie Crnkovich]

Susan-

Found the Will going through it now. Thank you :)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to Group Silva (Pico) and Avila (Sao Jorge) families

[Kellie Crnkovich]

Susan Emeryville is listed in the top of the census records. That is why I put 
it there. He is buried at Holy Ghost Crmetary in Fremont. I lived in Stockton 
until 7 years ago when I moved to Kansas. I do have cousins in Bay Area as well 
we are all stumped. Grandpa wouldn't even teach his kids Portuguese he said 
we're American and we speak English. The will would be his I haven't found that 
can you tell me where you found it? They were in Washington Township. I know 
they had a farm that they sold for good money when the interstate was going in. 
Manuel's brothers had neighboring farms. Manuel also owned a bar and stables in 
town I believe Newark it later became a strip club called the Foxy Lady or 
something like that lol. Grandpa was an alter boy at Mission San Jose I am 
going to write them and see if they have any info on Manuel maybe there is 
something there. 

Thank you 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Prainha Do Norte, Sao Roque, Pico Baptism Record 1904

["E" Sharp]

Just want to thank you all again for your help.  I did find the baptism
record I was looking for. Yippee!!

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Prainha Do Norte, Sao Roque, Pico Baptism Record 1904

["E" Sharp]

Thank you all.  Bill it did open for me so now I can search.

Thank you again.

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Prainha Do Norte, Sao Roque, Pico Baptism Record 1904

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Hi "E"

I couldn't open that particular book (Praiinha, baptisms, 1900-1911) in MS 
Edge or on MS IE; it said error, file not found.  All other books worked 
fine.  it is the link on CCA that is the problem.  Using the link on tombo 
instead worked.

In any case, this link should open the book in question 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-PRAINHADONORTE-B-1900-1911/PIC-SR-PRAINHADONORTE-B-1900-1911_item1/index.html

Bill Seidler

On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 10:54:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

> I clicked on every image in that book. They all load on both Firefox and 
> Chrome.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:47 AM, linda  > wrote:
>
>> "E",
>>
>> Sometimes this sort of error can be due to a "bad" link.  If you can copy 
>> and paste the link you're trying to access, others can try clicking on it 
>> to see if it works for them.  If it doesn't work for us, then the problem 
>> is not on your end, but an error on the website.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 10:21:23 AM UTC-7, "E" Sharp wrote:
>>>
>>> Cheri,
>>>
>>> I haven't used the site in a whilewhat site address are you using??  
>>> I can access all the other dates, just not that one??  I tried Firefox and 
>>> Chrome.
>>>
>>> "E"
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
 Google is a search engine, along with Bing, Yahoo, etc.

 Firefox, Edge (formerly Internet Explorer), Chrome, Safari, are 
 browsers.

 I tried it on both Firefox and Chrome and both worked for me. So it's 
 your end. :(

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:14 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Cheri,
>
> Thank you.  Are you using Firefox or Google or something else??
>
> "E"
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello  
> wrote:
>
>> I have no problem seeing the records.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:06 AM, "E" Sharp  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to find a baptism record for 1904, Prainha do Norte, Sao 
>>> Roque, Pico but when I access the website...it say Ver and when I click 
>>> on 
>>> it, it says File not Found.  Does this mean they are not online yet or 
>>> ???
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Prainha Do Norte, Sao Roque, Pico Baptism Record 1904

[Cheri Mello]

I clicked on every image in that book. They all load on both Firefox and
Chrome.

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:47 AM, linda  wrote:

> "E",
>
> Sometimes this sort of error can be due to a "bad" link.  If you can copy
> and paste the link you're trying to access, others can try clicking on it
> to see if it works for them.  If it doesn't work for us, then the problem
> is not on your end, but an error on the website.
>
> :)
>
> Linda
>
> On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 10:21:23 AM UTC-7, "E" Sharp wrote:
>>
>> Cheri,
>>
>> I haven't used the site in a whilewhat site address are you using??
>> I can access all the other dates, just not that one??  I tried Firefox and
>> Chrome.
>>
>> "E"
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Google is a search engine, along with Bing, Yahoo, etc.
>>>
>>> Firefox, Edge (formerly Internet Explorer), Chrome, Safari, are browsers.
>>>
>>> I tried it on both Firefox and Chrome and both worked for me. So it's
>>> your end. :(
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:14 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>>>
 Cheri,

 Thank you.  Are you using Firefox or Google or something else??

 "E"

 On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:

> I have no problem seeing the records.
>
> Cheri Mello
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>> I am trying to find a baptism record for 1904, Prainha do Norte, Sao
>> Roque, Pico but when I access the website...it say Ver and when I click 
>> on
>> it, it says File not Found.  Does this mean they are not online yet or 
>> ???
>>
>> Thanks.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Prainha Do Norte, Sao Roque, Pico Baptism Record 1904

[linda]

"E",

Sometimes this sort of error can be due to a "bad" link.  If you can copy 
and paste the link you're trying to access, others can try clicking on it 
to see if it works for them.  If it doesn't work for us, then the problem 
is not on your end, but an error on the website.

:)

Linda

On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 10:21:23 AM UTC-7, "E" Sharp wrote:
>
> Cheri,
>
> I haven't used the site in a whilewhat site address are you using??  I 
> can access all the other dates, just not that one??  I tried Firefox and 
> Chrome.
>
> "E"
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
>> Google is a search engine, along with Bing, Yahoo, etc.
>>
>> Firefox, Edge (formerly Internet Explorer), Chrome, Safari, are browsers.
>>
>> I tried it on both Firefox and Chrome and both worked for me. So it's 
>> your end. :(
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:14 AM, "E" Sharp > > wrote:
>>
>>> Cheri,
>>>
>>> Thank you.  Are you using Firefox or Google or something else??
>>>
>>> "E"
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello >> > wrote:
>>>
 I have no problem seeing the records.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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> Roque, Pico but when I access the website...it say Ver and when I click 
> on 
> it, it says File not Found.  Does this mean they are not online yet or ???
>
> Thanks.
> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Prainha Do Norte, Sao Roque, Pico Baptism Record 1904

["E" Sharp]

Cheri,

I haven't used the site in a whilewhat site address are you using??  I
can access all the other dates, just not that one??  I tried Firefox and
Chrome.

"E"

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Google is a search engine, along with Bing, Yahoo, etc.
>
> Firefox, Edge (formerly Internet Explorer), Chrome, Safari, are browsers.
>
> I tried it on both Firefox and Chrome and both worked for me. So it's your
> end. :(
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:14 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>>
>> Thank you.  Are you using Firefox or Google or something else??
>>
>> "E"
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have no problem seeing the records.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
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>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:06 AM, "E" Sharp 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am trying to find a baptism record for 1904, Prainha do Norte, Sao
 Roque, Pico but when I access the website...it say Ver and when I click on
 it, it says File not Found.  Does this mean they are not online yet or ???

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Prainha Do Norte, Sao Roque, Pico Baptism Record 1904

[Cheri Mello]

Google is a search engine, along with Bing, Yahoo, etc.

Firefox, Edge (formerly Internet Explorer), Chrome, Safari, are browsers.

I tried it on both Firefox and Chrome and both worked for me. So it's your
end. :(

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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> Cheri,
>
> Thank you.  Are you using Firefox or Google or something else??
>
> "E"
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> I have no problem seeing the records.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:06 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to find a baptism record for 1904, Prainha do Norte, Sao
>>> Roque, Pico but when I access the website...it say Ver and when I click on
>>> it, it says File not Found.  Does this mean they are not online yet or ???
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Prainha Do Norte, Sao Roque, Pico Baptism Record 1904

[Cheri Mello]

I have no problem seeing the records.

Cheri Mello
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> Roque, Pico but when I access the website...it say Ver and when I click on
> it, it says File not Found.  Does this mean they are not online yet or ???
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mount Carmel in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, Elaine's that's what I'm after. I'm going to work with Joe since his
brother knows the priest there. So maybe in a month I'll have an answer.

Cheri Mello
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On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 9:22 AM, E. Sharp  wrote:

> Did they give you a copy of the papers the bride and groom actually filled
> out themselves??  The first time I asked for the record they gave me their
> written one and it did not have all the information that was one the one
> they actually filled out.  Someone had told me to go back and ask for the
> other.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Soares/Menezes on San Miguel Island in late 1800's

[SNarducci07]

I actually knew it was Sao Miguel, but in my great-grandma's naturalization 
papers she names it as San Miguel, so I thought maybe that's what the 
called it, haha. Maybe it was just typed in incorrectly. I did find 
Thereza's naturalisation papers, which is my great-great-grandma, but it 
doesn't list who her parents are and that's essentially what I'm searching 
for. 

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 11:35:49 AM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Staci,
>
> For your records, the island is Sao Miguel, one of the Azores. San Miguel 
> is an island off the coast of California.
>
> You have names and dates, but need a specific place. For more how to, go 
> to the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/vOijK0
>
> The outbound ships lists from Sao Miguel to Hawaii are lost. In 
> "Portuguese Immigants to Hawaii" compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. on page 
> 415, for the Swanley, Dec. 12, 1909, it says:
> 69) Manuel I. Menezes, 35
> 70) Thereza, 26
> 71) Maria, 12
> 72) Antonio, 10
> 73) Maria C, 8
> 74) Maria 1
>
> Find out which one of those people naturalized. The one who leaves the 
> biggest paper trail is where you are most likely to find an answer.  
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:52 PM, SNarducci07  > wrote:
>
>> I've just recently started researching my families genealogy. Most 
>> lineages I can trace back pretty far, but my father's maternal line stops 
>> at my 2nd great-grandparents who are from San Miguel Island, Azores, 
>> Portugal. I have a decent amount of information but lack the know-how and 
>> skills to really know what to do next. I would love to get the names of my 
>> 3rd great-grandparents. My 2nd great-grandparents are Theresa Soares 
>> Menezes (Soares is her married Surname I do believe), I've seen she signed 
>> her name as Thereza J. Menezes as well, she is also known as Maria Theresa 
>> Soares and was born January 1, 1883, on San Miguel Island, Azores, 
>> Portugal. Her husband was Manuel Soares Menezes born about June 1875 on San 
>> Miguel Island as well. They were married on that island at about 1897. They 
>> had 4 kids born in San Miguel; Mary Theresa Soares, Antone Soares, 
>> Constance Soares, and Minnie Soares (my great-grandmother). They then 
>> immigrated to Honolulu on the S.S. Swanley and arrived on December 14th, 
>> 1909. They had 2 more children in Hawaii; Evelyn and Ann Soares. They then 
>> moved to California and had one more child John Soares. They continued 
>> living in San Jose, Santa Clara County, California until they both passed 
>> away. I only have the date of Theresa Soares death and not Manuel's. Is 
>> there any way to find the names of either of their parents? I have 2 
>> sources claiming the surnames Fernandez (Theresa's father) and Jesus 
>> (Theresa's mother, though I know this is likely a religious name and not a 
>> surname), I have no information for Manuel's parents.
>> Thank you!
>> -Staci Narducci
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mount Carmel in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[E. Sharp]

Did they give you a copy of the papers the bride and groom actually filled out 
themselves??  The first time I asked for the record they gave me their written 
one and it did not have all the information that was one the one they actually 
filled out.  Someone had told me to go back and ask for the other.

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mount Carmel in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Cheri Mello]

Only "Sao Miguel" was listed with Vital Records. That's why I'm after the
church record.

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 9:15 AM, E. Sharp  wrote:

> Cheri,
>
>
>
> Since the marriage took place to New Bedford, did you contact the Vital
> Records and ask for the paper the bride/groom actually filled out for the
> marriage license.  There was much more information on that than there was
> on the other papers and online.  They are not crazy to look it up as it is
> somewhere else in the building but I managed to have them get it for me.  I
> told them I was in no rush but they did it right away.  Of course, there is
> a cost for this.
>
>
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mount Carmel in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[E. Sharp]

Cheri,

 

Since the marriage took place to New Bedford, did you contact the Vital Records 
and ask for the paper the bride/groom actually filled out for the marriage 
license.  There was much more information on that than there was on the other 
papers and online.  They are not crazy to look it up as it is somewhere else in 
the building but I managed to have them get it for me.  I told them I was in no 
rush but they did it right away.  Of course, there is a cost for this.

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mount Carmel in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Joseph Mendonca]

OK

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yes, Joanne, I know it's Lent and I know Easter is April 16th. Yes, I know
> the churches are quite busy with Lenten and Easter activities.
>
> Joe, I'll email you the details.
> Thanks, Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Joseph Mendonca 
> wrote:
>
>> Let me have it Cheri.  I'll give it a try. I know Fr. Jack casually.
>> He's an acquaintance of my brother who is a priest in Toronto.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I called and emailed the church secretary at Mount Carmel in New Bedford
>>> 2 months ago. I requested a marriage and specified that I really needed the
>>> information that said where the bride and groom were born. She never
>>> fulfilled my request.
>>>
>>> So is anyone going there who can ask Fr. Oliveira to look up the
>>> marriage in the book and read it to you while you take notes? Email me and
>>> I'll provide the particulars. I don't need 5 people all asking them the
>>> same thing.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Cheri
>>> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mount Carmel in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, Joanne, I know it's Lent and I know Easter is April 16th. Yes, I know
the churches are quite busy with Lenten and Easter activities.

Joe, I'll email you the details.
Thanks, Cheri

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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> an acquaintance of my brother who is a priest in Toronto.
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> I called and emailed the church secretary at Mount Carmel in New Bedford
>> 2 months ago. I requested a marriage and specified that I really needed the
>> information that said where the bride and groom were born. She never
>> fulfilled my request.
>>
>> So is anyone going there who can ask Fr. Oliveira to look up the marriage
>> in the book and read it to you while you take notes? Email me and I'll
>> provide the particulars. I don't need 5 people all asking them the same
>> thing.
>>
>> Thanks, Cheri
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for Piva, Pavao, Viveiros, Torres

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Congrats, Michael! Maybe you will connect with others on this list now.
Keep searching!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:36 AM, Michael Brown <
mikebrownproducti...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cheri,
>
> thank you so much! Thanks to the info you supplied we were able to get
> several more generations back on our family tree! My father has been
> looking for this info for 20 years. Thank you thank you!
>
> On Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 9:21:59 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>> In Portuguese you will be looking for Antonio Carlos Pavao. His parents
>> would be Joao C. Pavao and Maria. Maria's parents would be Jose Viveiros
>> and Maria Torres. The ship bound for Hawaii left from the port of Ponta
>> Delgada on Sao Miguel island.
>>
>> In "Passport Registrations, Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich
>> Isles, 1879-1883" by Bob De Mello, lists the following on page 298
>>
>> Pavao, Joao Carlos, age 51, son of Antonio Carlos and Maria Joaquina,
>> from Bretanha, with wife Maria Francisca, age 48, daughter of Jose Inacio
>> Raposo and Francisca Candida with children, Francisca, 23, Antonio, 20,
>> Luis, 17, Mariana, 14, Margarida, 11, Manuel, 9, all born in Bretanha, came
>> on the Bell Rock (sailed 3 Aug 1883-3 Sept 1883).
>>
>> Others on this list will tell you how to search the Portuguese records
>> (doing a quick email check before I leave). You could also join us in Salt
>> Lake in September, where we will have 4 days of Portuguese genealogy!
>> goo.gl/GkxEV3
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manoel Botelho Cabral (˜1845-1902)

[Renivee]

Thank you! :-)


On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 7:17:26 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Renivee,
>
> If it's a 2nd cousin, you know how that person connects to your tree. Put 
> them in your tree. Do it on FTDNA. Then it will start to split your 
> matches. See the previous message from me.
>
> You should be in the Brasil project and you should ask Ricardo about what 
> you believe about DNA for paternity testing. FTDNA doesn't deal with that. 
> Ricardo has been working to build the Brasil DNA project for genealogy. 
> He's NOT hunting down deadbeat dads!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Renivee  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks Cherry,
>>
>> I just got my first high cM match 4 days ago, it is a second cousin and 
>> she doesn't have much info. I have quite a bit more. My highest after that 
>> is a 45cM American, who is researching Italian names because that's what he 
>> has. I'm Brazilian and so far everyone comes from Brazil with one couple 
>> coming from Madeira in the 1700's. Most non-confirmed because the 
>> "historian" who decided to compile our genealogy apparently decided dates 
>> weren't important. 
>>
>> So I have contacted those matches with the highest cM's but only one has 
>> replied and he doesn't even have a tree organized! From what I gather from 
>> family in Brazil, a DNA test is only if you want to prove who's your baby 
>> daddy. So they are kind of frowned upon. I guess I'll have to see how I can 
>> afford to fly to Brazil and buy a bunch of kits for my relatives to do 
>> tests for me.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 7:48:58 PM UTC-7, Renivee wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm new to the forum. I'm kind of stuck on a 4th grandfather. His name 
>>> is Manoel Botelho Cabral born circa 1844. He should have been born in 
>>> Brazil, but I cannot find anything about him besides my 3rd grandmother's 
>>> death record. His wife is Firmina Herculana dos Santos. I have a match on 
>>> FTDNA that is Azorian and she has a Manoel Botelho Cabral that was born in 
>>> the early part of the 1900's so it's not him. But he could still be part of 
>>> the family. Anyway, if you know of any Botelho Cabral's that went to 
>>> Brazil, please keep me in mind.
>>>
>>> Ren.
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for Piva, Pavao, Viveiros, Torres

[Michael Brown]

yes, thank you! These are them. thanks to the info that you and Cheri 
supplied (above) we were able to get several more generations back! :)

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 5:54:30 PM UTC-7, Shirley Allegre wrote:
>
> Michael:  I found the following in the book IMMIGRATION FROM AZXORES TO 
> HAWAII  1879-1883.  I hope that these might be your ancestors.
>  
> Joao Carlos Pavao, age 51
> Father:  Antonio Carlos
> Mother:  Maria Joaquina
> From:  Bretanha
> WIFE:  Maria Francisca,  age 48
> Father:  Jose Inacio Raposo
> Mother:  Francisca Candida
> CHILDREN:
> Francisca 23
> Antonio 20
> Luis 17
> Mariana 14
> Margarida 11
> Manual 9
> (All born Bretanha)
> Ship Bell Rock
>  
> Four or my grgrandparents and my maternal grandfather went to Hawaii in 
> 1883.  It arrived in Hawaii about 3 Nov 1883.
> Shirley in CA
>  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for Piva, Pavao, Viveiros, Torres

[Michael Brown]

Cheri,

thank you so much! Thanks to the info you supplied we were able to get 
several more generations back on our family tree! My father has been 
looking for this info for 20 years. Thank you thank you! 

On Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 9:21:59 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> In Portuguese you will be looking for Antonio Carlos Pavao. His parents 
> would be Joao C. Pavao and Maria. Maria's parents would be Jose Viveiros 
> and Maria Torres. The ship bound for Hawaii left from the port of Ponta 
> Delgada on Sao Miguel island. 
>
> In "Passport Registrations, Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich 
> Isles, 1879-1883" by Bob De Mello, lists the following on page 298
>
> Pavao, Joao Carlos, age 51, son of Antonio Carlos and Maria Joaquina, from 
> Bretanha, with wife Maria Francisca, age 48, daughter of Jose Inacio Raposo 
> and Francisca Candida with children, Francisca, 23, Antonio, 20, Luis, 17, 
> Mariana, 14, Margarida, 11, Manuel, 9, all born in Bretanha, came on the 
> Bell Rock (sailed 3 Aug 1883-3 Sept 1883).
>
> Others on this list will tell you how to search the Portuguese records 
> (doing a quick email check before I leave). You could also join us in Salt 
> Lake in September, where we will have 4 days of Portuguese genealogy!
> goo.gl/GkxEV3
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mount Carmel in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Joseph Mendonca]

Let me have it Cheri.  I'll give it a try. I know Fr. Jack casually.  He's
an acquaintance of my brother who is a priest in Toronto.

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I called and emailed the church secretary at Mount Carmel in New Bedford 2
> months ago. I requested a marriage and specified that I really needed the
> information that said where the bride and groom were born. She never
> fulfilled my request.
>
> So is anyone going there who can ask Fr. Oliveira to look up the marriage
> in the book and read it to you while you take notes? Email me and I'll
> provide the particulars. I don't need 5 people all asking them the same
> thing.
>
> Thanks, Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito, Santa Maria - Help with a couple of names

[George Sousa]

Thank you everyone!

I'm sure this happens occasionally for those of you have been doing this
for a while... but of late, as I work my way up a certain line, I sometimes
find a connection to a different branch of my family. I believe the
marriage record that I posted in this thread is yet another example.

I thought I would post this for future reference as I'm very confident that
the Groom's parents are Jozeph de Rezendes Carvalho and Maria Leandres
Moura. This couple is part of another family line that I've researched.

In terms of the Bride's parents... I haven't run across this couple before
but I'm confident that it's  Manoel da Fontes Chaves and Maria Pacheca. I
will post back to this thread if I find otherwise.

Thanks again to all those that offered help.

George


On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 7:40 PM, linda  wrote:

>
> I agree with Maria.  I can see "de Cra va lo" in the letters.
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 4:13:16 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>>
>> After JOSEPH DE RESENDES, I think it says "de Carvalho". I see the
>> "Calhoun and the de but it doesn't look like a "C". I'm on iPhone and can't
>> make it bigger. Hope this is some help
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 11:30 AM, George Sousa  wrote:
>>
>> The record on the right in the following page...
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>> SANTOESPIRITO-C-1731-1751/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1731-1751_item1/P31.html
>>
>> Here is what I have so far...
>>
>> Em os quinze dias do mes de Mayo da Era de mil e sete centos e trinta e
>> houto Annos de manham nesta igraja Parochial...
>> ...prezensa in facie eclesia Domingos de Rezendes filho de Jozeph de
>> Rezendes ? e de sua mulher Maria de Souza ja defuntos, e Esperansa de
>> Chaves filha de
>> Manoel da Fontes Chaves e de sua mulher Maria ? naturais e freguzes desta
>> freguezia...
>>
>> What is written after Jozeph de Rezendes? What is the name of the Bride's
>> mother?
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to Group Silva (Pico) and Avila (Sao Jorge) families

[George Medeiros]

Kellie,
I have a cousin who lives in Fremont, Ca who is a Silva through her father 
and he was married to my Aunt. My Aunt had two children with him. They later 
got divorced. I could ask her if she knows anything about her father and if you 
give me permission share your info posted 
In this email. I do not know if he was from Ca.or R.I. ? Also I am sure there 
are many Silva's in Fremont area. George Medeiros

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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:19 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kellie,
> I looked up your family from the info below because my family also comes from 
> this area. I was wondering why you have “Emeryville” in your generated report 
> for where he was in 1900? It looks to me that he was in Washington Township, 
> Alameda County, California. I don’t know if you are familiar with this area 
> or not. You say he died in “Alameda” California and there is an Alameda in 
> California but that is a city and then there is Alameda County in which there 
> was once Washington Township….a collection of small towns. Emeryville was not 
> one of them.
> There is a will listed on Ancestry for Manuel Perry/Pereira Silva and it says 
> he lived in Newark, which was in Washington Township. The will says his wife 
> was Mariana, 38, Anthony 21, Joseph, 15, Mary 10…..other parts of will, 
> probably filed at a later time, make ages one year older. 
> 
> Hope this helps sort it out some…
> Susan Vargas Murphy
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Kellie Crnkovich  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I found this group after joining the Azores FTDNA project I am in the 
>> process of awaiting family finder results in next few weeks. As my mtDNA is 
>> not Azores related since my mothers father was the line. He was born in 
>> Alameda County, California his christened name Anthony Bernard Silva. His 
>> father Manuel Perry Silva came to California in 1870 from the Azores (per 
>> Grandpa from Pico) with 2 brothers (I believe Antone and Joseph per census 
>> records). In 1890 a bride was sent from the Azores Marianna Avila (I have 
>> gotten many generations of her Family). Years ago a cousin from Sao Jorge 
>> helped me with her genealogy. I am stuck on Manuel though trying to find his 
>> correct Silva family. Hoping family finder will help. Grandpa was older when 
>> my mom was born and passed away when I was 7. I was very close with as he 
>> lived with us.
>> 
>> This is what I have.
>> 193. MANUEL PERRY SILVA (Anthony's father) was born in July 1846, in Pico, 
>> Azores, to Mr. Silva231 and Ms. Silva232. In 1870, aged about 23, he 
>> immigrated to according to 1900 census came to U.S. in 1870. He was recorded 
>> in the census in 1880, aged about 33, in Washington, Alameda, California, 
>> USA. In 1900, aged about 53, he was a Listed as saloon keeper. Manuel was a 
>> Farmer. He was recorded in the census in 1900, aged about 53, in Emeryville 
>> city, Alameda, California, USA. Manuel died on 25 February 1917, aged 70, in 
>> Alameda, CA. Manuel was buried in Holy Spirit Cemetery, 5250 Central Ave, 
>> Fremont, CA. 
>> 
>> I would love to find more about his family and where they came from. I can't 
>> wait to meet more Avila and Silva family out there. I also have a site at 
>> MyHeritage.com that family can join in and add new info to the tree. 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Kellie
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to Group Silva (Pico) and Avila (Sao Jorge) families

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

Hi Kellie,

I looked up your family from the info below because my family also comes from 
this area. I was wondering why you have “Emeryville” in your generated report 
for where he was in 1900? It looks to me that he was in Washington Township, 
Alameda County, California. I don’t know if you are familiar with this area or 
not. You say he died in “Alameda” California and there is an Alameda in 
California but that is a city and then there is Alameda County in which there 
was once Washington Township….a collection of small towns. Emeryville was not 
one of them.
There is a will listed on Ancestry for Manuel Perry/Pereira Silva and it says 
he lived in Newark, which was in Washington Township. The will says his wife 
was Mariana, 38, Anthony 21, Joseph, 15, Mary 10…..other parts of will, 
probably filed at a later time, make ages one year older. 

Hope this helps sort it out some…
Susan Vargas Murphy

> On Mar 25, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Kellie Crnkovich  
> wrote:
> 
> I found this group after joining the Azores FTDNA project I am in the process 
> of awaiting family finder results in next few weeks. As my mtDNA is not 
> Azores related since my mothers father was the line. He was born in Alameda 
> County, California his christened name Anthony Bernard Silva. His father 
> Manuel Perry Silva came to California in 1870 from the Azores (per Grandpa 
> from Pico) with 2 brothers (I believe Antone and Joseph per census records). 
> In 1890 a bride was sent from the Azores Marianna Avila (I have gotten many 
> generations of her Family). Years ago a cousin from Sao Jorge helped me with 
> her genealogy. I am stuck on Manuel though trying to find his correct Silva 
> family. Hoping family finder will help. Grandpa was older when my mom was 
> born and passed away when I was 7. I was very close with as he lived with us.
> 
> This is what I have.
> 193. MANUEL PERRY SILVA (Anthony's father) was born in July 1846, in Pico, 
> Azores, to Mr. Silva231 and Ms. Silva232. In 1870, aged about 23, he 
> immigrated to according to 1900 census came to U.S. in 1870. He was recorded 
> in the census in 1880, aged about 33, in Washington, Alameda, California, 
> USA. In 1900, aged about 53, he was a Listed as saloon keeper. Manuel was a 
> Farmer. He was recorded in the census in 1900, aged about 53, in Emeryville 
> city, Alameda, California, USA. Manuel died on 25 February 1917, aged 70, in 
> Alameda, CA. Manuel was buried in Holy Spirit Cemetery, 5250 Central Ave, 
> Fremont, CA. 
> 
> I would love to find more about his family and where they came from. I can't 
> wait to meet more Avila and Silva family out there. I also have a site at 
> MyHeritage.com that family can join in and add new info to the tree. 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Kellie
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