Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

[luiznoia]

Antonio was one of six children born to  Manuel de Fraga and Maria Pimentel
that I have found. It's a common occurrence for a child to have a different
surname than his father. It may be from his mother's family , or his
father's maternal family.

Eric

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 6:23 PM, <1halfazor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, Eric
> Still trying to comprehend how Manuel de Fraga and Maria Pimentel’s
> one and only child was named Antonio Fraga Noia?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

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Yes, Eric
Still trying to comprehend how Manuel de Fraga and Maria Pimentel’s one and 
only child was named Antonio Fraga Noia?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

[1halfazorean]

Yes, indeed. 
My family, as I recognize, from my great grand father, Antonio Carvalho 
Noia. He died before I was born. I remember my great grand mother. I met her in 
about 1962/3. She died a short time later & her son, Antonio Jr. died a short 
time later. My great grand father is # 9 was one of thirteen children according 
to the fabulous list you provide. Noia name is first mentioned, I believe, in 
the 2nd or 3rd generation? Who carried the Noia name in the De Fraga beginnings?
   I still don’t know how the Noia name came about.cliff

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

[luiznoia]

That is my work.


Eric Edgar

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> https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/azores/n6QT_fFpYqI/StqdGLkj4ZkJ
>   This where I got ALL of my info. from!
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

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https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/azores/n6QT_fFpYqI/StqdGLkj4ZkJ
  This where I got ALL of my info. from!

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

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Flores, Santa cruz

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

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Is this Theresa Aguiar?

Eric

On Thu, May 3, 2018, 1:22 PM Luv4hevn  wrote:

> Hello Eric we have connected before.  My family being one of those Noia
> lines.
> We are the Noia’s from the Santa Cruz, Flores line.
> Brothers Roberto Antonio Noia & Francisco Noia came to the USA.  There is
> definitely 2 different Noia family sides in Antioch, CA area.  I’m still
> trying to separate them out.
> Theresa
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 2, 2018, at 3:58 PM, luiznoia  wrote:
>
> My grandfather's family is Noia from Flores. I have all of the Flores
> history and geneaolgy books in print. The consensus is that there are two
> Noia lines. One leads back to
>
> Sao Miguel and before that to Porto Santo, Madeira. This line is centered
> in Santa Cruz.
>
>
>
> The other Noia group comes from the town of Noia, on the coast of Galicia,
> Spain. It is a closest seaport to Santiago de Compostela.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noia
>
> 
> Bartolomeu de Noia is the originator of this line centered in Ponta
> Delgada. He died there in 1680. This is my line. I have a document chain
> back to him.
>
> In America, it some times became Noya. There is no shortening it. My great
> grandfather dropped the Noia name at naturalization, and used his middle
> name
>
> Luiz instead.
>
> I've spent 20 years picking apart the various Noia lines. If you have more
> information for me, I can see where it fits in.
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Repost for , 1halfazorean at gmail.com
>>
>> I googled my great grand mother’s name ( Nunes )and came across a thread
>> with past relatives of her husband Antonio Noia! My great grand father
>> naturally. Wow. It also lists their three children, my great aunt & uncle
>> and my grandmother. Very interesting. It also mentions my mothers two
>> brothers and not her or her two sisters or her!  Reading through all the
>> past generation with all the familiar last names and some of the first
>> names is amazing. Sure wish my mom was alive to see this information.
>>   My question is, where did the Noia name begin? António Fraga sees to
>> have started it all in the Azores, Flores. Fraga, Carvalho, Pimentel, De
>> Jesus are also mentioned. I don’t see where the name Noia actually enters
>> the family!?  Also mentioned is that, Noia was shortened or altered once
>> arriving in America.
>> Anyway, any comments welcome
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

[luiznoia]

I have a Contra Costa County Noia families master file. I have every Noia
line mapped.

Send me specific information, and I'll look them up.

Eric Edgar


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> Cliff N;  Where do your Fragas come from?  Mine are from Sao Jorge.
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> Sam (Mazatlan, MX)
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>
> Well, my information came from you! The Fraga line. My great grandfather
> was António Carvalho Noia. Number 9 on your genealogy list. He married
> Maria Nunes. They lived in Oakley,CA.
>
>  I Am still unclear how the Noia names comes in to play. I don’t see who
> brought the Noia name into the mix. Still interested. Thanks for your
> efforts.
>
>Cliff N
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

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Cliff N;  Where do your Fragas come from?  Mine are from Sao Jorge.

Sam (Mazatlan, MX)

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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

Well, my information came from you! The Fraga line. My great grandfather was 
António Carvalho Noia. Number 9 on your genealogy list. He married Maria Nunes. 
They lived in Oakley,CA. 
 I Am still unclear how the Noia names comes in to play. I don’t see who 
brought the Noia name into the mix. Still interested. Thanks for your efforts. 
   Cliff N

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

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Well, my information came from you! The Fraga line. My great grandfather was 
António Carvalho Noia. Number 9 on your genealogy list. He married Maria Nunes. 
They lived in Oakley,CA. 
 I Am still unclear how the Noia names comes in to play. I don’t see who 
brought the Noia name into the mix. Still interested. Thanks for your efforts. 
   Cliff N

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

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Hello Eric we have connected before.  My family being one of those Noia lines.
We are the Noia’s from the Santa Cruz, Flores line. 
Brothers Roberto Antonio Noia & Francisco Noia came to the USA.  There is 
definitely 2 different Noia family sides in Antioch, CA area.  I’m still trying 
to separate them out.
Theresa 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2018, at 3:58 PM, luiznoia  wrote:
> 
> My grandfather's family is Noia from Flores. I have all of the Flores history 
> and geneaolgy books in print. The consensus is that there are two Noia lines. 
> One leads back to 
> 
> Sao Miguel and before that to Porto Santo, Madeira. This line is centered in 
> Santa Cruz.
> 
> 
> 
> The other Noia group comes from the town of Noia, on the coast of Galicia, 
> Spain. It is a closest seaport to Santiago de Compostela. 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noia
> 
> Bartolomeu de Noia is the originator of this line centered in Ponta Delgada. 
> He died there in 1680. This is my line. I have a document chain back to him.
> 
> In America, it some times became Noya. There is no shortening it. My great 
> grandfather dropped the Noia name at naturalization, and used his middle name 
> 
> Luiz instead. 
> 
> I've spent 20 years picking apart the various Noia lines. If you have more 
> information for me, I can see where it fits in. 
> 
> 
> Eric Edgar
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> Repost for , 1halfazorean at gmail.com
>> 
>> I googled my great grand mother’s name ( Nunes )and came across a thread 
>> with past relatives of her husband Antonio Noia! My great grand father 
>> naturally. Wow. It also lists their three children, my great aunt & uncle 
>> and my grandmother. Very interesting. It also mentions my mothers two 
>> brothers and not her or her two sisters or her!  Reading through all the 
>> past generation with all the familiar last names and some of the first names 
>> is amazing. Sure wish my mom was alive to see this information. 
>>   My question is, where did the Noia name begin? António Fraga sees to have 
>> started it all in the Azores, Flores. Fraga, Carvalho, Pimentel, De Jesus 
>> are also mentioned. I don’t see where the name Noia actually enters the 
>> family!?  Also mentioned is that, Noia was shortened or altered once 
>> arriving in America. 
>> Anyway, any comments welcome 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

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My grandfather's family is Noia from Flores. I have all of the Flores
history and geneaolgy books in print. The consensus is that there are two
Noia lines. One leads back to

Sao Miguel and before that to Porto Santo, Madeira. This line is centered
in Santa Cruz.



The other Noia group comes from the town of Noia, on the coast of Galicia,
Spain. It is a closest seaport to Santiago de Compostela.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noia


Bartolomeu de Noia is the originator of this line centered in Ponta
Delgada. He died there in 1680. This is my line. I have a document chain
back to him.

In America, it some times became Noya. There is no shortening it. My great
grandfather dropped the Noia name at naturalization, and used his middle
name

Luiz instead.

I've spent 20 years picking apart the various Noia lines. If you have more
information for me, I can see where it fits in.


Eric Edgar

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Repost for , 1halfazorean at gmail.com
>
> I googled my great grand mother’s name ( Nunes )and came across a thread
> with past relatives of her husband Antonio Noia! My great grand father
> naturally. Wow. It also lists their three children, my great aunt & uncle
> and my grandmother. Very interesting. It also mentions my mothers two
> brothers and not her or her two sisters or her!  Reading through all the
> past generation with all the familiar last names and some of the first
> names is amazing. Sure wish my mom was alive to see this information.
>   My question is, where did the Noia name begin? António Fraga sees to
> have started it all in the Azores, Flores. Fraga, Carvalho, Pimentel, De
> Jesus are also mentioned. I don’t see where the name Noia actually enters
> the family!?  Also mentioned is that, Noia was shortened or altered once
> arriving in America.
> Anyway, any comments welcome
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Origin of surname Noia on Flores

[Cheri Mello]

Repost for , 1halfazorean at gmail.com

I googled my great grand mother’s name ( Nunes )and came across a thread
with past relatives of her husband Antonio Noia! My great grand father
naturally. Wow. It also lists their three children, my great aunt & uncle
and my grandmother. Very interesting. It also mentions my mothers two
brothers and not her or her two sisters or her!  Reading through all the
past generation with all the familiar last names and some of the first
names is amazing. Sure wish my mom was alive to see this information.
  My question is, where did the Noia name begin? António Fraga sees to have
started it all in the Azores, Flores. Fraga, Carvalho, Pimentel, De Jesus
are also mentioned. I don’t see where the name Noia actually enters the
family!?  Also mentioned is that, Noia was shortened or altered once
arriving in America.
Anyway, any comments welcome

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