Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores: how our first commers found it!

2014-03-09 Thread John Vasconcelos
A couple of identifiable landmarks if you ever visit Flores At about 0:30 that appears to be Monchique off the west coast of Flores The sequence from about 2:30 to about 2:40 are the string of waterfalls behind the Village of Fajazinha where my mother was born. John Vasconcelos On Sun, Mar 9

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Stowaways

2014-03-19 Thread John Vasconcelos
it's possible that some crew members jumped ship there. John Vasconcelos On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *I think it was common knowledge that whalers from New England would stop in the Azores and pick up extra crew. After the trip

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vierra/Vieira Family

2014-03-20 Thread John Vasconcelos
can hook you up with relatives. Contact me directly if you like and I can probably give you some more leads but it will take me a little time. John Vasconcelos gfsjohnv at gmail dot com On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:04 PM, dicarlo.dia...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Carolina, like Dave I am also a reader, my

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread John Vasconcelos
first cousins married and their son went on to get an advanced degree in finance. He subsequently married a non-cousin. His grandparents were both first cousins of mine. There's an old saying, when cousins marry, if the genes are good, you get geniuses, but if the genes are bad, you get idiots. John

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Y dna Matches between Pico and Flores, looking for a list of original Flores settlers.

2014-04-16 Thread John Vasconcelos
would be glad to photocopy and send to you the chapter entitled Familias which covers all the original settling families. John Vasconcelos On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Antonio Faria antoniof1...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone know if a list exists of the original settlers of Flores island. I can

Fwd: [AZORES-Genealogy] Y dna Matches between Pico and Flores, looking for a list of original Flores settlers.

2014-04-16 Thread John Vasconcelos
Adding to what Doug said: Gomes references both Fructoso's Saudades da Terra and Diogo das Chagas' Espelho Cristalino as well as other references. John Vasconcelos -- Forwarded message -- From: John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:02 PM Subject: Re

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Y dna Matches between Pico and Flores, looking for a list of original Flores settlers.

2014-04-16 Thread John Vasconcelos
Great Antonio, It'll be a day or two before I can get to it.I'll be tied up most of he day tomorrow and Friday morning. It's 40 pages and Im not set up to scan it so I'll just have to photocopy it and snail mail it. What is your snail mail address? Regards, John Vasconcelos On Wed, Apr 16, 2014

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dias/ Silviera / Henriques / Fraga 1800 - present

2014-05-02 Thread John Vasconcelos
president of UPEC) grew up on a farm in the Buhach area. I also have a 5G grandfather, Antonio George from Cedros Flores. John Vasconcelos On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:31 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Debra, Your George family were friends of my great grandparents. My g grandfather

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal of Boaventura.

2014-05-14 Thread John Vasconcelos
grandfather who died in 1906 was Francisco Victorino Vasconcellos. John Vasconcelos On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:48 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that in the Casais do Flores e Corvo book, Mr Pimentel Gomes has often standardized the spelling of names despite how they are written

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pimentel, Lomba das Flores, mid-1800s

2014-05-27 Thread John Vasconcelos
to Boise Idaho from Fresno? If you contact me privately, I can give you more details about our possible relationship. John Vasconcelos On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Mary Pimentel Wheeler, pimwheel at gmail.com I'm stuck on my research

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brother's Keeper genealogy program

2014-06-01 Thread John Vasconcelos
Doug and Antonio, I second all you've said. I've been using Brother's Keeper since the late 90's for two reasons. 1.) Accents and 2.) It supports a Portuguese language option. John Vasconcelos On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 11:56 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Wow, Antonio. You will love the upgrades

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name help

2014-07-28 Thread John Vasconcelos
Another possibility might be Pinheiro (which means pine tree in Portuguese). When I grew up in Fresno there was a local undertaker Art Pine who did a lot of business with the Portuguese community and his real last name was Pinheiro John Vasconcelos On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Elizabeth

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname Focha

2014-08-06 Thread John Vasconcelos
Hi Rosemarie, Although it's not very common, I've seen the Focha surname on Flores John Vasconcelos On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:18 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Hi all, I am helping a friend with some research on the Focha family of Petaluma CA. I ran the surname through the NEPS

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname Focha

2014-08-06 Thread John Vasconcelos
see the original membership record book and see if Caetano’s village is listed. Thanks again, Rosemarie *From:* John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:52 PM *To:* azores azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname Focha Hi

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]

2014-09-01 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Adding to JR's comments, I can cite examples on Flores of appended surnames including one in my family tree. I had a 2ggrandmother, Anna Isabel born in Fajazinha, Flores. Her father was Antonio de Freitas Eduardo, b 1763. His father was Eduardo de Freitas. In effect, what this is saying is that

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with name marriage, Maia

2014-09-18 Thread John Vasconcelos
A nespera is a loquat. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Is it an alcunha? When I translated it, it said in English that it's something like a what we call crab apples. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Nicknames

2014-09-20 Thread John Vasconcelos
was researching the Canhoto family from Flores. John Vasconcelos On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:31 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: I've been working on a Pimentel family from Flores. For a few generations the were Pimentel Belo. Belo = beautiful. Then the next generation is Pimentel

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for books at a library near you

2012-01-04 Thread John Vasconcelos
I have always preferred real books but I wonder what the possibility of some of the historical genealogies being published as e-books might be? John On 1/4/12, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com wrote: The entire 3-volume, 1,500+ page Annals? Wow! When I think of the days money it took to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] unknown father (applications to priesthood)

2012-02-18 Thread John Vasconcelos
older than me). This individual became known as Tio Francisco da America to my Azores first cousins some of who immigrated to Southern Massachusetts in the 1960's. I still maintain contact with that :branch of the family. John Vasconcelos On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:35 AM, joao ventura hero

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese nameing conventions

2012-03-12 Thread John Vasconcelos
so for some reason when he first got here he adopted Mendoza as his surname. Unfortunately, I never thought to ask why he did this and all the people who would know are now deceased. John Vasconcelos On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 2:32 PM, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: Diane, in my

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lomba, Flores marriage records

2012-03-13 Thread John Vasconcelos
which I've only been able to trace back five generations. John Vasconcelos On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Duane dua...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for a marriage record in the Lomba freguesia of Flores, and in searching the CCA site for 1860-1874, it seems the records for at least 1865-1873

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lomba, Flores marriage records

2012-03-13 Thread John Vasconcelos
be interested in coming this fall to Amigos das Flores in Fresno on Saturday September 29. It's sort of a Flores reunion I am copying Alcidia Gomes. the orgsnizer of this event. John Vasconcelos. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Duane dua...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the reply, John. Lomba

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can anyone help me understand life as it was in 1880 on Sao Miguel?

2012-03-25 Thread John Vasconcelos
Adding to what Pat said, on many of the islands, S. Miguel in particular, much of the land was owned by large landowners so the peasants were reduced in many cases to being tenant farmers. The best hope to escape poverty for many male children in those days was to emigrate, or the priesthood. John

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] jose mariano goulart grante

2012-04-02 Thread John Vasconcelos
*My memory is hazy on this but I seem to recall a reference to a Grant family on Flores descendents of an English sailor. Given that English privateers were regular visitor to Flores in the times of the Spanish gold shipments, it could be a possibility. John Vasconcelos* On Sat, Mar 31, 2012

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] jose mariano goulart grante

2012-04-02 Thread John Vasconcelos
is an account of the Battle. (Goofle it). The battle itself has been amply documented in both prose and poetry. However, I'm not sure of the details about the crew member Grant. John Vasconcelos* On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM, kate allen katealle...@yahoo.com wrote: your story is the same one my

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] jose mariano goulart grante

2012-04-02 Thread John Vasconcelos
was 1591. Grenville was picking up crew, not dropping them off The Revenge was actually captured and sunk in a storm at Terceira while under tow. .* On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:15 PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote: *Kate, You and Rick set a light bulb off in the recesses of my mind!! If I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Marriage book look up

2012-04-12 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Hi Cheri, Just checked my email for the first time in a couple of days. Did a quick check in the Flores marriages book and found only one person with the first name Jacob, a Jacob Rodrigues Gervasio married 1901 to Maria do Ceu Alves in Fajazinha. As you know, due to the INFERNAL PORTUGUESE

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death record

2012-05-18 Thread John Vasconcelos
, he was faced with a mutiny which is documented in a book The Mutiny of the Pedro Varela It's a paperback which you might be able to find to buy for $3 or $4 by googling it. He was originally from Fajazinha, Flores, my mother's home village. John Vasconcelos On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:34 AM

[AZORES-Genealogy] Frank Edward Ray (Reis), Hero of the 1976 Chowchilla School Bus kidnaping

2012-05-19 Thread John Vasconcelos
They've Taken Our Children: The Chowchilla Kidnaping. Ray, whose birth name was Reis was born in Merced County. His father (as I recall) was a half-brother of my Uncle Jose Reis from Lomba Flores and married to my father's sister Angelina. John Vasconcelos * -- To unsubscribe from this group, send

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Edward Ray (Reis), Hero of the 1976 Chowchilla School Bus kidnaping

2012-05-20 Thread John Vasconcelos
Kathie, I don't recall if I ever met him. I seem to recall that when I was a teenager, we as a family (including my Uncle Jose Reis and Aunt Angelina and Uncle Jose Freitas who did the driving) went to visit older relatives in the Chowchilla area who I think were his parents. Since he was 12

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 9 Messages in 3 Topics

2012-05-25 Thread John Vasconcelos
was a whaling Captain. He might be able to give you some leads. John Vasconcelos * *a* -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Last call for Family Tree DNA's Family Finder coupon codes

2012-06-10 Thread John Vasconcelos
Cheri, I just signed up, John On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I think I now have 10 or 12 left. I will issue them to anyone (and so will Rick). Portuguese lines or not, doesn't matter. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Emailing: Birth Francisco.IMG

2012-06-27 Thread John Vasconcelos
As point of interest, I also have a George ancestor from Flores: Antonio George(my 3 GGF) married to Joanna de Freitas and parents of Isabel de Freitas Henriques. Since it's an end of line I don't know where they're from although there a lot of Georges in nossa Sra dos Remedios. John Vasconcelos

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] definition

2012-07-14 Thread John Vasconcelos
on Flores where my father was born. John Vasconcelos * On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: That's OK. When I posted it a month ago, you were hot on the trail of finding your freguesia, so you probably didn't pay particular attention to the consanguinity

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] definition

2012-07-14 Thread John Vasconcelos
PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote: *I'll second what Cheri said. Cousin marriages are probably more common on the smaller islands where you can run out of possible marriage candidates faster. I'm thinking specifically of Flores where my parents were born but the same might also

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Question about surnames in a family tree

2012-07-24 Thread John Vasconcelos
in turn have a have a son Manual Furtado. This from the mid 1700's. John Vasconcelos * On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: As a rule, women and children were not given surnames. If Maria Antonia did take a surname you should find it listed in her Obito; otherwise, just

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fajanzinha, Flores

2012-08-09 Thread John Vasconcelos
of genealogy at the time. John Vasconcelos. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:06 PM, John Raposo marra...@yahoo.com wrote: Alfred Lewis, also from Fajãzinha, has Avelar, Fraga and Machado in his lines! You might be cousins. John Miranda Raposo *From:* Pat Frade pat_fr...@byu.edu *To:* azores

[AZORES-Genealogy] Olympic Genealogy

2012-08-09 Thread John Vasconcelos
*While watching the Olympics this morning, I saw the Portuguese two woman rowing team place 6th in their event. Their names Joana Vasconcelos and Beatriz Gomes. I have both those surnames in my family tree. I wonder if they might be distant cousins of mine? (mandatory genealogy content). John

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opportunity Saudade

2012-08-15 Thread John Vasconcelos
when we went to an occaisonal nearby festa. John Vasconcelos . * On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Deb McCabe looking4root...@yahoo.comwrote: I agree that the paper is very relevant. As I write biographies for each of my family members, there are so many questions I wished I had asked my

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] immigration

2012-08-17 Thread John Vasconcelos
first at Ellis island to clear immigration then procede to the final port to disembark passengers John Vasconcelos* On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Cheryl Lawrence cheryl...@gmail.comwrote: I don't believe there was a port into Fairhaven for passenger ships. Try New Bedford, or even Providence

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Research

2012-08-21 Thread John Vasconcelos
Sampaio is a surname. I knew a Sampaio family in Brazil and they said it was Portuguese. John Vasconcelos On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Yes that is it, is it a surname of profession? On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy 7th Birthday to the Azores Genealogy List!

2012-09-26 Thread John Vasconcelos
Azores List, A LESSER PERSON WOULD HAVE GIVEN UP. John Vasconcelos.* On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: This list will be 7 years old on the 27th! The first post was on the 28th. I can't believe this has been going on 7 years already! Today, our 1000th member

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Minta surname from Flores Island - derivation?

2012-10-18 Thread John Vasconcelos
individually so it's a long processes. Are you absolutely sure of the spelling? Could it be a nickname (alcunha)? Any other information which may shed light on this family would be helpful Regards, John Vasconcelos (Both parents from Flores)* On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:29 AM, badger woodrowme

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Minta surname from Flores Island - derivation?

2012-10-19 Thread John Vasconcelos
these). Did Manuel or any of the family members belong to any Portuguese lodge or Fraternal organization. They often have good records of their members' family and island connections. Good Luck John Vasconcelos. * On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:29 AM, badger woodrowme...@gmail.com wrote: Family lore

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Minta surname from Flores Island - derivation?

2012-10-19 Thread John Vasconcelos
daughters and 3 sons, although there may have been early deaths that were never recorded. Nevertheless the obit actually implies 3 daughters and 5 sons are alive, but that could be a turn of phrase. Steve On Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:38:57 PM UTC-7, John Vasconcelos wrote: *Steve, I have

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Casais das Flores e do Corvo in e-book format!!

2012-12-28 Thread John Vasconcelos
Robert, . On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, robertjm rober...@hockeyhockeyhockey.comwrote: Can you give me a better idea of what is inside this book? The previews at Amazon and Lulu are only of the cover, which really isn't really a preview at all. Is there a name index, or is a listing by

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-01-31 Thread John Vasconcelos
hopeless with French,.. can't begin to understand it. I took Spanish in High School and get along reasonably well. I can even get along in Italian, but French is a big ZERO. John Vasconcelos * On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry I can't find the email

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-02-01 Thread John Vasconcelos
Portuguese. The less educated Azoreans seem to retain their regional accents. John Vasconcelos* On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Joao S. Lopes josim...@yahoo.com.br wrote: For a Portuguese-speaker, Russian sounds like Portuguese spoken backwards. Portuguese is not closest to Romanian. Its closest

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores

2013-02-01 Thread John Vasconcelos
. John Vasconcelos * On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mary Bordi geneal...@hununu.org wrote: We don't know how my great grandmother got here. I've looked and looked. She did have a brother who may or may not have come with her. She was 18 and her passage was paid by the man who became my

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores trip

2013-02-04 Thread John Vasconcelos
euros a night. I think the record bargain was 20 euros a night (including continentel breakfast) for a simple but clean residencial in Coimbra, Regards, John Vasconcelos .* On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.comwrote: Lorraine, I'm leaving

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-02-10 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Our family Attorney when I was growing up in Fresno California was a Lopes (rhymed with ropes) but I don't recall what Island he was from (probably Flores). He was, as I recall, a former Supreme President of the UPEC. John Vasconcelos* On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ATMs in the Azores

2013-02-26 Thread John Vasconcelos
minimum. In previous travel to Portugal, I used my credit union ATM card and don't recall paying any significant charges, but as I said it's been a few years. John Vasconcelos.* On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *I was reading

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Caldeira : born 1914, looking for info

2013-03-18 Thread John Vasconcelos
and i are cousins. Have him contact me. John Vasconcelos* On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Maggie Homen Sutton maggie.sut...@charter.net wrote: For a good friend, Greg Caldeira: Joseph Caldeira was born in Ingomar, California in 1914 and baptism was at St. Joseph's in Los Banos - His son, Greg

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Chat room

2013-04-11 Thread John Vasconcelos
surprise was that upon check out, I had a long distance charge of about $30 added to my lodging bill for what was a 3 or 4 minute chat). Cheri, did I ever mention this to you? * *Regards, * *John Vasconcelos * *aka GFSJohnV. * On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:35 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anglican/Americanized names

2013-04-16 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Just a trivial point on the Subject Title. It should be Anglicized/Americanized. Don't mean to be a nit-picker. Anglican is the name of a religion. * *John Vasconcelos* On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:53 AM, gomes.ances...@gmail.com gomes.ances...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, I wonder

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Genealogy Chat

2013-05-10 Thread John Vasconcelos
Trombone. * *Regards, * *John Vasconcelos* On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:27 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.comwrote: Just a reminder Portuguese Genealogy Chat Starts at 9: 30 PM to 11:00PM eastern time http://georgepacheco.com/chatroom.html For those of you who need help, please feel free

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trolling on the Web

2013-05-13 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Cheryl and Cindy, * *We may be connected.** I had two first cousins married to two Sylvia brothers in the New Bedford/South Dartmouth area. My (half) first cousin Elsie Vasconcellos was married to Manuel Silvia and her sister Izaura (Sara) Vasconcellos was married to John Sylvia, Manuel's brother

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The Azores are a part of Portugal

2013-05-15 Thread John Vasconcelos
, Santo when the saint's first name starts with a vowel then I looked at our Band Schedule which reminded me that we recently played at the Santo Cristo festa in Chino. I give up! I defer to the language experts on the list. Joao?, George?, Doug?, Katharine? * *John Vasconcelos* On Wed, May 15

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] legitimate vs. illegitimate

2013-05-20 Thread John Vasconcelos
are usually known as Maria by their non-portuguese friends and in work situations but usually continue to be known by their middle name by family and friends. John Vasconcelos* On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Eddie Machado avidedito...@gmail.comwrote: It was a death on São Jorge in Norte Grande

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BURRA from Lomba, Flores

2013-05-20 Thread John Vasconcelos
offer's a possible (although unlikely in most cases) way for Flores researchers to extend their family trees. * *John Vasconcelos* On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:28 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Doug, I've searched all my Flores resources without finding a Burra record. This includes

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-22 Thread John Vasconcelos
of another first cousin of mine making them second cousins who married. This couple had 4 children all of whom are college graduates. One of these four children is now a professor at Boston University. John Vasconcelos On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I ran across an old

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-22 Thread John Vasconcelos
in their 90's when they died. * *Ther were probably more arranged marriages for genetic reasons than you might think. * *John Vasconcelos * On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:55 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: My Furtado Cardoso great grandparents were first cousins on Pico

[AZORES-Genealogy] Ernest Moniz, current Energy Secretary

2013-05-23 Thread John Vasconcelos
*An article in todsy's LA Times regarding Tesla motor company paying back it's loan to the Energy Department cited Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz. Does anybody know his genealogy, family history, etc? * John Vasconcelos -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail

[AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Ernest Moniz, current Energy Secretary

2013-05-23 Thread John Vasconcelos
Vasconcelos *. -- Forwarded message -- From: John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com Date: Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:28 AM Subject: Ernest Moniz, current Energy Secretary To: azores Azores@googlegroups.com *An article in todsy's LA Times regarding Tesla motor company paying back it's loan

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-24 Thread John Vasconcelos
*I have a nephew-aunt marriage in my family tree. One of my great great grand fathers married an aunt about 20 years older than he was (for inheritance reasons I would bet). I would really like to know the story behind that. After he died he married my great great grandmother. * *John Vasconcelos

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Connect with family members from Flores and Sao Miguel - SantoCristo, De Costa, Gouveia, Pavao

2013-05-28 Thread John Vasconcelos
Cory, Do you have any dates for any of these marriges and or births? John Vasconcelosq On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Cory SantoCristo casahomebyc...@gmail.com wrote: I am Cory SantoCristo and I am currently doing my family tree and have traced it back 12

Fwd: [AZORES-Genealogy] Connect with family members from Flores and Sao Miguel - SantoCristo, De Costa, Gouveia, Pavao

2013-05-28 Thread John Vasconcelos
-- Forwarded message -- From: John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com Date: Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Connect with family members from Flores and Sao Miguel - SantoCristo, De Costa, Gouveia, Pavao To: azores azores@googlegroups.com SORRY, Just a slip

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Coming to US illegally - Passporte question

2013-06-23 Thread John Vasconcelos
letting people in as they were looking for people to populate the west. As the family story goes, my grandfather went in to the Sonora County courthouse in 1873, filled out some papers and became a US citizen. I can't vouch for the details as the people involved have been dead for years. * *John

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Coming to US illegally - Passporte question

2013-06-24 Thread John Vasconcelos
to Flores and bring relatives and friends on his ship to the US without benefit of documents. Since all these people are no longer with us, I can't verify the accuracy of this story. * *John Vasconcelos* On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:04 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a question for you

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching De Frega,

2013-06-25 Thread John Vasconcelos
on the list might recognize them. * *Regards, * *John Vasconcelos. * *.* On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Shirley Collenette scollene...@comcast.net wrote: Trying to find when my grandmother's family came to California, settling in Alameda, California, My grandmother was born around 1898 in Alameda

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese

2013-07-13 Thread John Vasconcelos
a more pronounced local accent while the younger more educated who may have gone to college usually speak a more standard Portuguese. The caretaker at the cemetary in Santa Cruz Flores the last time I was there, had an unmistakable Sao Miguel accent. * *John Vasconcelos* On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:10

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese

2013-07-14 Thread John Vasconcelos
. * *John Vasconcelos* On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote: I'm Brazilian and so my Portuguese is from Brazil, where I lived most of my life. Brazil is almost as big as US, having several different accents as we have here in US if you go from N

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-16 Thread John Vasconcelos
*The Parish church in Lomba, Flores (where my father was born) is Sao Caetano. I also have cousins from Lomba with the surname Caetano. * *John Vasconcelos* On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:23 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Caetano is a common given name and a common surname in Flores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family tree

2013-08-04 Thread John Vasconcelos
to be in the Fresno area on Aug 24 for the 75th birthday of a 1st cousin (who is also related to you). * *Regards, * *John Vasconcelos* On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Gary Pimentel gary44pimen...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I'm trying to get a handle on my dad's side of his family. He was Frank Pimentel a rancher

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree

2013-08-09 Thread John Vasconcelos
to my maternal Grandmother. Got to run now, but I'll add to this story as the memory cells awaken. John Vasconcelos On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:44 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Gary P. Could this be him? It says he is coming from Fajazinha, Flores. Going to Fresno, CA. It looks like

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree

2013-08-14 Thread John Vasconcelos
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:21 AM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for digging up that record. The couple was Antonio and Anna Pimentel. She was locally known as Tia Anna Pimentel and ran a boarding house on H street in Fresno where many Azorean immigats would stay until

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree

2013-08-14 Thread John Vasconcelos
, I can't provide more details at this time). John Vasconcelos On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:31 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: These two passport documents show Joao de Freitas Pimentel as a brother to Francisco Pimentel, the birthdate of Francisco showing he is in fact the same person

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder results in (through part of batch 527)

2013-08-31 Thread John Vasconcelos
it be ironic if he turned out to be a distant relative. * *John Vasconcelos* On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Family Finder (FF) results are in up through part of batch 527. They are behind on mtDNA. Some people are having a hard time with Y-DNA (finding the right

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to encourage CCA to post on-line records for Vila Franca

2013-09-07 Thread John Vasconcelos
, what she did might have been illegal (or may be illegal now). I don't know if some one coming in off the street could get the same service. Perhaps some one like Joao Ventura could tell us. John Vasconcelos . On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Courtney L courtneylui...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] thank you

2014-01-27 Thread John Vasconcelos
fires!) John Vasconcelos On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:44 AM, blackice...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, I would like to thank all of you that helped me fill in with what I needed. You have been a great help to me. I'm sure I'll need more help here and there soon. Thanks again and may God Bless you all

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cassamento Antonio Corvello e Antonia do Esirito Santo 13 Dec 1706

2014-02-02 Thread John Vasconcelos
Prince Henry and Antonio Catalao (Corvello) and that it said that Antonio would go from Catalonia to Santa Maria to supervise the establishment of the sugar cane industry and the building of processing mills. John Vasconcelos On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cassamento Antonio Corvello e Antonia do Esirito Santo 13 Dec 1706

2014-02-02 Thread John Vasconcelos
, there is a branch of the Corvello family on Flores which arrived on Flores after the late 1600's, who apparently can trace their ancestry back to Santa Maria. John Vasconcelos On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Anthony Soares asoaresph...@gmail.comwrote: This Antonio Curvello would be my 6th Great

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NETTO Surname

2009-01-20 Thread John Vasconcelos
the islands so that it is probably not likely that you could really confirm the island of origin of the Neto surname. good luck, John vasconcelos On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Kawika322 oldschoo...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone knew where the NETTO surname comes from

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Snow in Azores

2009-02-04 Thread John Vasconcelos
*That is remarkable since the highest Elevation on Flores is about 1000 meters (~3000 ft) above sea level. John Vasconcelos* On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:37 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: These were sent by a Vieira friend. She said her cousin Jose Luis Vieira, who runs a boat out

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FLORES

2009-03-15 Thread John Vasconcelos
FRANCIS could have originally been Francisco which is normally a first name but can be a surname. BRIO has me stumped. There is a surname Brindeiro on Flores but it is rather unlikely (but not impossible) that it would have been shortened to Brio. I'll have to think about that some more. John

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores

2009-03-17 Thread John Vasconcelos
Are you sure of the dates? I have found a Joao Jacinto Rodrigues married to Catarina Maria 14 May 1821 Nossa Sra dos Remedios, Fajazinha Flores. John Vasconcelos On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:38 AM, jones guilherme neves filho jon...@ig.com.br wrote: Looking for: I am researching João Jachinto

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores

2009-05-15 Thread John Vasconcelos
raids on the island for water and provisions. I have read an historical account of privateers having attacked Flores in the mid 1600's and having burned every church on the island so it is not surprising that many of the early records are lost. Good luck in your search, John Vasconcelos. On 5/9/09

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts

2009-06-23 Thread John Vasconcelos
Joaquin is Spanish, Joaquim is Portuguese. If you go back to the original Portuguese records, you will most probably find the latter spelling. John On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:27 AM, carmen furtado carmen_furt...@yahoo.comwrote: Just uploaded all the info I have to date:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Significance of the surname Jacob in either Corvo or Flores?

2009-11-19 Thread John Vasconcelos
in Fajazinha at the time. So my theory is that when there were several people with the same name, the custom developed to distinguish between them by their father's first name. Just my theory. By the way, there area a lot of Fraga families on Corvo so my theory would seem to fit there. John

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Souza Palheiro

2009-12-05 Thread John Vasconcelos
Interesting interpretation Eric. A palheiro can also be a barn. So another interpretation could Manuel Sousa who has a barn. I once stayed in a cottage in Cuada (the village turned resort). It was named Palheiro do Pimentel John On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:02 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Physical Research In/Around Dartmouth?

2009-12-28 Thread John Vasconcelos
an outstanding genealogy collection. I was able to get some very good information on my New Bedford relatives. Good luck. John Vasconcelos On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Janis Davis jdavis0...@yahoo.com wrote: hi, my name is Janis. New bedford, dartmouth, and fairhaven are all butted up against one

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learn basic Portuguese

2010-01-01 Thread John Vasconcelos
The Braziliin slang is defintely more difficult to translate but legal Brazillian and European Portuguese should not be that different. John On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: I don't know if I can explain it really but Brazilian portuguese is

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Duarte's Tavern Pescadero CA

2010-01-10 Thread John Vasconcelos
time. The area is definitely worth a days outing. John Vasconcelos On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Mary Bordi geneal...@hununu.org wrote: Nice article. It was also fun to read the comments. An interesting tidbit about Duarte's for you genealogists... Last time I was at Duarte's (in August

Re: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: de or da

2010-02-27 Thread John Vasconcelos
Ana/Nancy, I like your new name. It could be because I had a great grandmother, Anna Felizarda de Vasconcellos born on Flores. That was both her maiden name and her married name because she was married to her first cousin, my great grandfather, Francisco Victorino de Vasconcellos. Regards, John

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Records-Nossa Senhora do Rosario Remedios

2010-03-16 Thread John Vasconcelos
Lord tennyson wrote about the encounter of the Revenge, Sir Walter Raleighs former flagship, commanded by his cousin, Sir Richard Grenville with the Spanish Armada off Flores. Un fortunately, Grenville lost his lifein this battle, but the poem is very interesting to read. Bye for now. John

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Attention APGHS members

2010-03-25 Thread John Vasconcelos
Yes, I still belong Cheri. John On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: If you are an APGHS member, will you email directly off list and let me know? (gfscherim at gmail dot com) That way you won't get more announcements about the conference in Salt Lake in

[AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-06 Thread John Vasconcelos
. How about it, any cousins out there with these same ancestors? John Vasconcelos -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores

2010-06-07 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Shirley, I have the Flores Marriages Book and as time allows, I will search it for Rocha. So far I have only found Silvestre Antonio Rocha,** born in Fajas**, son of Manuel de Fraga Rocha and Maria de Jesus**, married 09/13/1849 to Ana da Trindade. I'll continue to search but it is complicated

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores

2010-06-08 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Thanks for the assist George!! You are in good hands Shirley. George has help me more that once on my own genealogy. John * On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:38 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.comwrote: Groom's Name: Miguel M. Serique Groom's Birth Date: 1858 Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: 20

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Andre de Freitas Luzia Rodrigues

2010-06-11 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Found another cousin. Katharine Baker and I have discovered some common ancestors. We share Andre de Freitas and Luzia Rois (Rodrigues), my 5G grandparents from Quada as common ancestors. They are listed as parents in the marriage of their daughter Isabel de Freitas to Manuel Martins (son of

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