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Hi!
and our control panel application
What do you use for your control panel application?
can pseudo-randomly choose RFC-1918 IP addresses for mesh interfaces
if the user selects it.
You do know birthday paradox? ;-)
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Birthday_problem
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probably use the same schema internally in your control panel
in a distributed way so that maybe some centralized system in your
network could still fetch this data and use it (for example to draw a
map or something).
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? Or which IP
does a node have?
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Hi!
Just a note for those who do not know about the nice atmosphere of the
WBM events: those who are fighting in this thread are in fact good
friends and can have very very interesting discussions ;)
Love-hate relationship. ;-)
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Hi!
(In a pure mesh protocol, routers with multiple interfaces should
probably appear as multiple nodes;
Why? I think it is good that the routing protocol knows that something
(some interfaces) belongs together (node).
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Hi!
Maybe you could perform some more tests in this direction at the next
WBM in Athens?
I don't think any of us are going to Athens.
No? How come? Why?
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(and
mediate) such tables if others prepare me a list of topics to discuss.
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at the same time. And a nice side effect can then be a video
posted on your website with this discussion where others can watch you
later.
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Batman on top of that? This would probably
hide that there are different links bellow from Batman? Or not? (For
example, on OLSR we should not do this, because then nodes would
discover each other over server as one hop/direct neighbors.)
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Hi!
It is possible to announce a network behind a router without exposing
it on L2? So that you would have nodes and clients meshed in L2, but
subnets behind nodes are only routed to?
In what shape is L3 batman implementation?
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add/remove interfaces at runtime without problems
so you doesn't need bridging or similar nasty things
Great. Can you also say to work on all tun+ interfaces, so that any
interface which starts with tun is automatically operated on?
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that there is
only one hop to nodeB, no?
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Hi!
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Andrew Lunn and...@lunn.ch wrote:
Or, if you are in a transition phase, and don't mind your head
exploding, run olsr, babel, etc, on top of BATMAN to gateway between
the L2 meshes!
Can you please explain a bit more what are you thinking here?
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nodes, no? So
that when gateway B appears, that all nodes add its prefix A to their
L3 routing tables?
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Batman already
knows all this ...
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Hi!
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Antonio Quartulli or...@autistici.org wrote:
A little remark here. You MUST use interfaces that support ethernet frames
transmission. Therefore (IIRC) you can use tap interfaces but not tun ones.
L2TP tunnel is creates a L2 tun interface, no?
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that this is achievable with OpenL2TP. But I must admit I do
not know which type of interface it creates.
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that we could for example forbid to announce anything from
192.168/16. How does such protocol determine node availability?
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it go over UDP.
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on border nodes within the single daemon, no?
How CPU and memory heavy it is to run it on consumer routers like
TP-links and so on? Probably depends on number of routes and not on
itself? But is there a big penalty of running it on all nodes?
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to
quagga and OSPF and same network, will we have more or less CPU usage?
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it can route that over L2TP. But I hope it will be better then current
5 Mbit/s limit.)
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Hi!
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Andrew Lunn and...@lunn.ch wrote:
We want UDP transport.
Why?
Because it easier goes through consumer firewalls than some non-TCP
non-UDP IP packets.
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.
No, it is an user-space daemon. Context switches between user-space
and kernel-space kills much of the performance on those cheap routers.
We are currently using OpenVPN and I doubt Tinc will improve much in
this aspect. Or am I mistaken?
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already exchanges information, so we could just allow custom
additional information from nodes to be exchanged. Maybe even stored
in that DHT you have.
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your routing protocol of choice
to announce the routes.
Announcing and checking for node reachability, no? And the second part
still require some additional bandwidth, no?
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being capable of using them?
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, how does
the L3 routing protocol daemon knows which one to select? From its
point of view everything is one hope away, but in reality there could
be huge differences?
For DHCP you sniff packets. But could be there some general way?
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and probably even rebooting servers for upgrading to newer
Batman versions.
Would some compatibility layer be possible to have to run Batman in
user-space? Are there any existing known?
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Hi!
Is it possible to determine from central location (for example
gateway) to which node a client is currently connected to? So from
DHCP you can get MAC-IP translation, but how to get from MAC on which
node client currently is?
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Hi!
Thanks for both ideas. KVM sounds great.
OK, so I have no more ideas against Batman. :-) And it got a go from
Kostko. So this looks very good. :-)
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is.
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am very for combining our efforts, but we should make sure
that content is updated/actual/maintained and this is possible only if
communities are behind it. So yes, we could start doing a common wiki
for everything, too. :-)
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would be
much easier now.
Great!
Unfortunately the SDK is only available on request since
some time.
I do not see this a problem. You request, you get, you distribute. GPL. :-)
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generation process.
I would point out that airos doesn't support ad-hoc mode in the GUI and
doesn't do ad-hoc on airmax interfaces.
We are using Ubuquiti equipment for backbone ptp links.
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where we could inject this in? Would be
this some addition which could go into the core implementation?
I think I asked a bit of this questions before, but now we have a bit
more concrete picture what would be nice to have for our setup to play
really nicely.
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the one with lower packet loss
* if packet loss is the same, choose the one with lower latency in the next hop
What do you think?
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route. Later
on with multipath routing, it could use this information to choose for
example n best.
Just some ideas ...
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to be in the same network even if there is no (yet)
existing WiFi link between them.
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behaving best with good fiber VPN links in between. :-)
The other problem, lack of good VPN solution, we just solved by
implementing our own L2TP broker daemon.
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flap?
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network.
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Marek Lindner
mareklind...@neomailbox.ch wrote:
On Saturday, August 15, 2015 07:05:17 Marc Juul wrote:
I am afraid by telling your mesh users that you switched to an IP based
mesh protocol you lure them into a false sense of 'non-traceability
Hi!
Comments?
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-- Forwarded message --
From: Jenny Ryan tunabana...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:41 PM
Subject: [Babel-users] Fwd: Why we switched to Babel
To: babel-us...@lists.alioth.debian.org
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From: Marc Juul j
Hi!
One more precise explanation of issues. Is this really a limitation of Batman?
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From: max b maxb.perso...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Babel-users] Fwd: Why we switched to Babel
Marc will probably chime in here
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