Re: [backstage] BBC News Live Stats XML - come and get it!

2006-06-23 Thread Mario Menti
On 6/23/06, Matt Rink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know this is kind of a late follow up but I got bored a fews daysago and decided to build this module/gadget for Google's personalisedhomepage that used the data Ben provided. I hadn't built one before soI thought it would be a good start. You can

Re: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread Tom Loosemore
So just to make absolutely clear. The BBC will continue to make our listings available for free (as part of the TV Anytime feed) and we are keen for developers as part of the remit of backstage to continue to be able to create and be innovative with the usage of that data. >> That's all fine, but

Re: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread James Cridland
>>So just to make absolutely clear. The BBC will continue to make ourlistings available for free (as part of the TV Anytime feed) and we arekeen for developers as part of the remit of backstage to continue to be able to create and be innovative with the usage of that data.>>That's all fine, but jus

RE: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread Jeremy Stone
Dear all Ok. The BDS and TV listings email. Nothing to worry about. BDS/Red Bee are one of the BBC's many suppliers and they are required from time to time to chase publishers for copyright royalties on behalf of the BBC and ITV. When doing so though, they are sometimes unaware of all of the

Re: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread Adam Leach
Quoting Tim Cowlishaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 6/23/06, Adam Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is another point of data collected and gathered using tax/license fee payers money, yet we can't access it without paying substantial fees. I should point out here that BDS are not funded by

Re: [backstage] BBC News Live Stats XML - come and get it!

2006-06-23 Thread Matt Rink
I know this is kind of a late follow up but I got bored a fews days ago and decided to build this module/gadget for Google's personalised homepage that used the data Ben provided. I hadn't built one before so I thought it would be a good start. You can select the region and the number of items to

Re: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread Richard P Edwards
I am sure that BDS do pay the BBC. The difference here is that the BBC, as Backstage, made the content available for use... and as such, has a clear responsibility to BDS, and any other commercial user, as well as the members of Backstage, to make sure that everyone works within the BBC's te

RE: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread Jeremy Stone
Dear all Thanks for your emails alerting to this issue both on list and off list. I'm doing some digging behind the scenes and will get back to the list asap clarifying the issues raised. Hopefully later this afternoon. Thanks Jem, backstage.bbc.co.uk > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL

Re: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread Peter Bowyer
On 23/06/06, Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The one part of this I *really* don't get is that accurate TV listing data is only going to generate more viewers. So why on earth would you want to restrict it? Because 'generating more viewers' is only one part of the value commercial va

Re: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread Tim Cowlishaw
On 6/23/06, Adam Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is another point of data collected and gathered using tax/license fee payers money, yet we can't access it without paying substantial fees. I should point out here that BDS are not funded by the license fee, they are a private company, so

RE: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew Bowden
> The one part of this I *really* don't get is that accurate TV > listing data is only going to generate more viewers. So why > on earth would you want to restrict it? You would be amazed at how many similar situations there are to this - there was quite an interesting one recently where raceco

RE: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew Bowden
> Obviously BDS (along with other companies) have a business > model which involves aggregating schedule data and supplying > it to other parties. (Why is it I always think of something extra to say, after I've sent the email?) It's also worth remembering the history behind the particular Act

Re: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread Simon Huggins
[Guardian cc'd as they have a Free Our Data column] On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 12:58:19AM +0100, Adam Leach wrote: > This is another point of data collected and gathered using tax/license > fee payers money, yet we can't access it without paying substantial > fees. I presume the commercial channels'

Re: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...

2006-06-23 Thread Nic James Ferrier
Adam Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is another point of data collected and gathered using tax/license > fee payers money, yet we can't access it without paying substantial fees. > > Until this changes small/spare time developers will not have the > resources to create innovative web si