Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Brian Butterworth
Jim, The reason Apple never gets into trouble for monopolistic behaviour is that the company has never been that successful. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrust_Act Section 2 of the Act forbade monopolyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly. In Section 2 cases, the court has, again on

RE: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Christopher Woods
-Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Jim Tonge Sent: 30 January 2010 22:55 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPad On 30 Jan 2010, at 22:39, Alex Mace wrote: FUD. Nothing so

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Sam Mbale
iPad is just a wall fence for publishers. Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk wrote: -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Brian Butterworth
For a bit of balance, how about http://www.stephenfry.com/2010/01/28/ipad-about/ (or http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/jan/29/stephen-fry-apple-ipad ) Dear old Mr Fry seems to have taken to the role of Apple's Chief Apologist very seriously. On 31 January 2010 14:06, Sam Mbale

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Sam Mbale
I remember when I just joined twitter Stephen Fry was the evangelist. Kudos to him. I always get this feedback from people that geeks are boring. Sadly it's true. Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:31 PM,

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Brian Butterworth
I remember when I subscribed to The Listener, Stephen Fry was an amusing, gay, reformed credit card thief. On 31 January 2010 15:25, Sam Mbale smb...@mpelembe.net wrote: I remember when I just joined twitter Stephen Fry was the evangelist. Kudos to him. I always get this feedback from people

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Sam Mbale
Good for him Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tvwrote: I remember when I subscribed to The Listener, Stephen Fry was an amusing, gay, reformed credit card thief.

RE: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Rupert Watson
I think the point he was making was that he has actually had his hands on the device and that it is pleasant to use. That, after all, is what made the iPhone a success; ease of use and desirability. Scoble has an interesting interview with his kid on why it isn't compelling for college

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Sam Mbale
It's all about accessibility. is it worth it? Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Rupert Watson rup...@root6.com wrote: I think the point he was making was that he has actually had his hands on the

RE: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Rupert Watson
I think it is more about conflation / coalescence / convergence on one device. The more one can consume, interact and communicate on one platform, the better, I think. Rupert Watson +44 7787 554 801 www.root6.com From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk

RE: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Christopher Woods
I think it is more about conflation / coalescence / convergence on one device. The more one can consume, interact and communicate on one platform, the better, I think. Ultimately there will always be two parallel markets: the walled garden and the open, communal one. Google and Apple

[backstage] New prototype

2010-01-31 Thread Tim Coysh
Hello BBC Backstage, In the last few weeks I have been working on a simple system, similar to Chris Riley's trackplaying, of showing the currently playing song on BBC Radio and providing some information about the song and artist. I have never sent an email to a mailing list before, but I am

Re: [backstage] New prototype

2010-01-31 Thread Richard Lockwood
Cool... :-) Cheers, Rich. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Tim Coysh tjcr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello BBC Backstage, In the last few weeks I have been working on a simple system, similar to Chris Riley's trackplaying, of showing the currently playing song on BBC Radio and providing some

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 31-Jan-2010, at 18:31, Christopher Woods wrote: That said, the curated shop / marketplace experience will always hold sway with the 'just want it to work' segment of the userbase, so the lightbulb moment will only happen for most users when someone/some company manages to devise a

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-31 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 27-Jan-2010, at 16:19, Dave Crossland wrote: Well exactly, there are THREE main desktops, and one doesn't and wont have h264 preinstalled. This wouldn't be a problem if The Guardian and other news broadcasters stopped bystanding and made the videos they publish available in Xiph

Re: [backstage] New prototype

2010-01-31 Thread Brian Butterworth
Tim, Looking quite good for a prototype. Do you know about http://musicbrainz.org/ and how it integrates into the http://www.bbc.co.uk/music system? An example Massive Attack is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/10adbe5e-a2c0-4bf3-8249-2b4cbf6e6ca8* ?* * * * * On 31 January 2010 19:19, Tim

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-31 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 31 January 2010 20:35, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: What happens to news.bbc.co.uk when the number of users who DON’T have Flash support is significant? i.e., measured in hundreds of thousands? What about iPlayer? What happens when the in-browser DRM option ceases to exist? Hell

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-31 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 31-Jan-2010, at 20:58, Brian Butterworth wrote: Hell freezes over? Or http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/policies/syndication.shtml perhaps. The latter was what I had in mind… I would have a play with get_player on the command line, that shows what other format there really out there. I’m

Re: [backstage] New prototype

2010-01-31 Thread Tim Coysh
Brian, Yes I do, Thanks anyway. I havent used this feature much, as the Musicbrainz ID Tag is not usually scrobbled. If you look in the Similar Artists box, you can see the BBC Music Link there. Tim Coysh On 31 January 2010 20:35, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Tim,

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-31 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 31 January 2010 21:47, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On 31-Jan-2010, at 20:58, Brian Butterworth wrote: Hell freezes over? Or http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/policies/syndication.shtml perhaps. The latter was what I had in mind… I would have a play with get_player on the command

[backstage] Werewolf Manchester on Wednesday!

2010-01-31 Thread Tim Dobson
Hey everyone! We're kicking off 2010 with a game of Werewolf this Wednesday at Pure Space near Oxford Road. Even if you've never played before or if you think you're an expert come on down for a bit of paranoia, mob rule and deception. Upcoming has the details: http://upcoming.org/event/5319362