On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Brian Butterworth
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I'm still wondering why you can't download the radio podcasts from the new
iPlayer...
Coming soon.
Some tech challenges, but also a UI challenge of how on earth do we signal
that yes, you CAN download The Now Show,
Adam Hatia wrote:
It claims to be true 1280x720 @24fps... http://vimeo.com/help/hd ...
The video in the link posted by Tom Hannen wasn't displayed at that
resolution, even when you clicked the HD toggle (which changed the
amount of lossy compression applied). Perhaps there's a different way
I guess 720p24 *is* technically a true, actual high definition standard,
although I would be very sad to see it widely adopted... :-) (I think that
for most *video* material, of actual moving subjects, you'd be better off
picking a lower spatial resolution and a higher frame rate. Except for
: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
I guess 720p24 *is* technically a true, actual high definition
standard, although I would be very sad to see it widely adopted... :-)
(I think that for most *video* material, of actual moving subjects,
you'd be better off picking a lower
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I guess 720p24 *is* technically a true, actual high definition standard,
although I would be very sad to see it widely
Brian Butterworth wrote:
1080i25), or is the compression lower?
Yes. They are going to squeeze three HD channels into the 30Mb/s.
Four, according to the OFCOM plan. It's based on a report by Zetacast
which shows large improvements going to occur in MPEG4 coders and
stat-muxing
Brian Butterworth wrote:
25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in
Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service.
I'm not aware that anyone has ever suggested a 720p25 HD service in the
UK. Ofcom have proposed putting four *720p50* services into a DVB-T2
multiplex.
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Simon Thompson wrote:
25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in
Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service.
It's an option being considered.
oops - I misread that - 720p50 is an option in the Ofcom licence
conditions - not 720p25
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Four, according to the OFCOM plan. It's based on a report by Zetacast
which shows large improvements going to occur in MPEG4 coders and
stat-muxing between now and 2020.
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/dttfuture/report.pdf
Actually it's three for now, with the fourth one much,
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Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Brian Butterworth wrote:
25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in
Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service.
I'm not aware that anyone has ever suggested a 720p25 HD service in the
UK. Ofcom have
Adam Hatia wrote:
Does anyone know of any study results or resources on perceived quality comparisons
between various resolutions (e.g. 1080i25 vs 720p50) encodings?
Hans Hoffman has done some research in this area for the EBU:
http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_308-hdtv.pdf has some
Very interesting - many thanks!
Hans Hoffman has done some research in this area for the EBU:
http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_308-hdtv.pdf has some early
qualitative opinions in, and there's a presentation of his more
recent,
quantitative work at
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2008/7/9 Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Was it a bad idea to
: 10 July 2008 09:32
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Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
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2008/7/9 Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Brian
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Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Tom Hannen wrote:
The iPlayer is great, but in terms of HD, Vimeo now seems to be the
place to look at. Their HD channel is amazing, but unfortunately
relegates the BBC's iPlayer into looking
Of Steve Jolly
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Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Tom Hannen wrote:
The iPlayer is great, but in terms of HD, Vimeo now seems to be the
place to look at. Their HD channel is amazing, but unfortunately
relegates
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Was it a bad idea to include BBC HD on iPlayer too?
Are there any programmes on BBC HD that are not also broadcast (or even
simulcast) on other channels?
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btw, I just tried
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbchd/programmes/schedules/2008/07/09.xml
and it works!
2008/7/9 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/7/9 Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Was it a bad idea to include BBC HD on iPlayer too?
Are there any programmes on
The iPlayer is great, but in terms of HD, Vimeo now seems to be the
place to look at. Their HD channel is amazing, but unfortunately
relegates the BBC's iPlayer into looking like yesterday's
technology...
Their HD channel is here:
http://vimeo.com/channel778e
An example:
http://vimeo.com/775442
Tom Hannen wrote:
The iPlayer is great, but in terms of HD, Vimeo now seems to be the
place to look at. Their HD channel is amazing, but unfortunately
relegates the BBC's iPlayer into looking like yesterday's
technology...
Their HD channel is here:
http://vimeo.com/channel778e
An example:
Wow!
Yes, that's what I was after from BBC iPlayer!
2008/7/9 Tom Hannen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The iPlayer is great, but in terms of HD, Vimeo now seems to be the
place to look at. Their HD channel is amazing, but unfortunately
relegates the BBC's iPlayer into looking like yesterday's
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