Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-03-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 03/03/2008, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 03 March 2008 06:45:35 Stephen Wolff wrote: > > i'd agree with that - having just joined the list, i did wonder what i was > > letting myself in for! > > Don't worry - you'll only be harassed I apologies if anyone thinks I've harassed

RE: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-03-03 Thread Ian Forrester
TECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Barber Sent: 02 March 2008 20:53 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash Time after time I see threads on here turn into nasty flames, it's a shame bec

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-03-03 Thread Michael
On Monday 03 March 2008 06:45:35 Stephen Wolff wrote: > i'd agree with that - having just joined the list, i did wonder what i was > letting myself in for! Don't worry - you'll only be harassed and accused of all sorts of things from conspiracies through to a lack of ethics if you happen to work f

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-03-02 Thread Stephen Wolff
i'd agree with that - having just joined the list, i did wonder what i was letting myself in for! On 2 Mar 2008, at 20:52, Matt Barber wrote: Time after time I see threads on here turn into nasty flames, it's a shame because the people involved usually have intelligent, well mannered opini

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-03-02 Thread Matt Barber
Time after time I see threads on here turn into nasty flames, it's a shame because the people involved usually have intelligent, well mannered opinions, and that's what I'd like to read... Everyone has indifferences but can't we enjoy and discuss each other's opinion rather than reject it? Just see

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-03-02 Thread simon
This is NOT to replace HTTP delivery in order to enforce DRM in the flash > player. It is! :-) No, it isn't. But your off-key one-note tune has already taken up too much of my time. Your failure to acknowledge the social problem of DRM - the BBC acknowledges DRM but whines "we can't help it, it

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-03-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 01/03/2008, simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is NOT to replace HTTP delivery in order to enforce DRM in the flash > player. It is! :-) > As far as the flash player goes, this FMS 3 requirement is only > about streaming MP4 container (h264/aac) into the flash player as detailed > in th

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-03-01 Thread simon
"When other folk avoid the ethical aspects of their profession by focusing on technical problem-solving and ignore the social problems their solutions create for people drives me nuts" Do you mean the "social problems" as detailed as a result of the technical architecture described in the well-res

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-03-01 Thread Dave Crossland
On 01/03/2008, simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I make stuff people use. I don't sit around waiting for other folks to make > stuff so I can tell them why they're wrong to make it that way and this kind > of grandstanding drives me nuts When other folk avoid the ethical aspects of their profes

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-03-01 Thread Dave Crossland
On 29/02/2008, Iain Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RTMP. This isn't DRM as the files > inside the protocol are the same video formats that would be streamed > over the web. DRM tends to be applied to the files directly. That's what is new and vicious about Adobe's Flash Media Server. Y

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-03-01 Thread simon
"Now Adobe, which controls Flash and Flash Video, is trying to change that with the introduction of DRM restrictions in version 9 of its Flash Player and version 3 of its Flash Media Server software" That article is as predictable as it is ill-informed. In with the head-stomping first, worry abo

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-02-29 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200704/041607AMP.html For content publishers, Adobe Media Player enables better ways to deliver, monetize, brand, track and protect video content. It provides an array of video delivery options for high-quality online and offline playback, i

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-02-29 Thread Iain Wallace
I think this is blurring the line between what constitutes DRM and what constitutes a proprietary streaming protocol. The article doesn't really go into any technical detail about what they're referring to, but I take it they're referring to RTMP. This isn't DRM as the files inside the protocol are

[backstage] Fwd: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash

2008-02-29 Thread Dave Crossland
:-) -- Forwarded message -- From: John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 29 Feb 2008 03:31 Subject: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/02/adobe-pushes-drm-flash ... most sites that use these [Flash and FLV] format