Last I checked, so is (much of) the BBC. I'm sure somebody
here is well-placed to correct me if this is no longer the case!
As far as I know, all the BBC now has IE7 installed, however it was only
a few months ago that they did the upgrade.
Firefox is now available to all staff if they
On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:17, Andrew Bowden wrote:
Last I checked, so is (much of) the BBC. I'm sure somebody
here is well-placed to correct me if this is no longer the case!
As far as I know, all the BBC now has IE7 installed, however it was only
a few months ago that they did the upgrade.
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On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:17, Andrew Bowden wrote:
Last I checked, so is (much of) the BBC. I'm sure somebody here is
well-placed
On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:40, Ian Forrester wrote:
2017 right after the Vista upgrade right?
I heard a report† that 37.6% of sales of Windows Vista were in fact Siemens
stockpiling supplies so that there would still be copies around near the end of
the next decade.
M.
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2009/12/15 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net:
On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:40, Ian Forrester wrote:
2017 right after the Vista upgrade right?
I heard a report† that 37.6% of sales of Windows Vista were in fact Siemens
stockpiling supplies so that there would still be copies around near the end
of
On FF on OS X, and if I see another Chrome ad on Youtube or Google homepage
I'll cry.
Interested to see where this might leave Mozilla in the long run - as a matter
of interest, can anyone tell me if FF's default Google homepage is whoring
itself similarly?
Come back IE6, all is forgiven...
On 14-Dec-2009, at 12:21, Jim Tonge wrote:
On FF on OS X, and if I see another Chrome ad on Youtube or Google homepage
I'll cry.
Interested to see where this might leave Mozilla in the long run - as a
matter of interest, can anyone tell me if FF's default Google homepage is
whoring
On 14 Dec 2009, at 12:42, Mo McRoberts wrote:
As somebody who still has to “fix” things for IE 6 on a regular basis, all I
can say is: no, it definitely isn‘t, and please don’t come back.
Just a joke :)
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On 14-Dec-2009, at 13:22, Jim Tonge wrote:
On 14 Dec 2009, at 12:42, Mo McRoberts wrote:
As somebody who still has to “fix” things for IE 6 on a regular basis, all I
can say is: no, it definitely isn‘t, and please don’t come back.
Just a joke :)
Sorry, reading my reply back, it looked
2009/12/14 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net:
On 14-Dec-2009, at 13:22, Jim Tonge wrote:
On 14 Dec 2009, at 12:42, Mo McRoberts wrote:
As somebody who still has to “fix” things for IE 6 on a regular basis, all
I can say is: no, it definitely isn‘t, and please don’t come back.
Just a joke :)
Hopefully it'll leave Firefox well and truly in the bin where it belongs.
Must admit I always preferred IE for everyday use (and advocated it
very strongly for non-geek users), but I'm an absolute Chrome convert.
It. Just. Works. And its Javascript engine is blisteringly quick.
Cheers,
Rich.
The need to support IE6 brings out that kind of reaction in me, too.
Hopefully sometime next year all the internal users who bump
up IE6's market share in our stats will have migrated to
something made this century and we might just be able to
start thinking about dropping it
Hopefully it'll leave Firefox well and truly in the bin where
it belongs.
Must admit I always preferred IE for everyday use (and
advocated it very strongly for non-geek users), but I'm an
absolute Chrome convert.
It. Just. Works. And its Javascript engine is blisteringly quick.
I
On 14-Dec-2009, at 14:30, Christopher Woods wrote:
The need to support IE6 brings out that kind of reaction in me, too.
Hopefully sometime next year all the internal users who bump
up IE6's market share in our stats will have migrated to
something made this century and we might just be
2009/12/14 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk:
The need to support IE6 brings out that kind of reaction in me, too.
Hopefully sometime next year all the internal users who bump
up IE6's market share in our stats will have migrated to
something made this century and we might just be
There's no need to support IE6. I don't even consider IE6 backward
competibility when I design web sites, nor do I care if
people don't
like that.
You wouldn't win any points round here for that attitude, I'm afraid.
There isn't anyone here who *wants* to be supporting IE6, I
(I can type
faster than the browser can open a new tab? in 2009? are you
kidding me?)
I found that my IE7/8 tabs started loading WAY fster as soon as I went into
Accelerators/BHO options and disabled the Java Quick Start. By turning that
one thing off I reduced tab load times from 5-10
2009/12/14 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk:
There's no need to support IE6. I don't even consider IE6 backward
competibility when I design web sites, nor do I care if
people don't
like that.
You wouldn't win any points round here for that attitude, I'm afraid.
There isn't
It isn't a case of designers meekly deferring to their clients - more a case
of designers recognising that a large chunk of their audience (~15%) uses
ie6 and has no choice in the matter. I strongly dislike ie6, but it isn't
going anywhere.
Blogged about it here:
I'll be sure to tell the Secretary of State for Health that
when he can't use the next release of www.nhs.uk on his office PC.
The DoH's still using IE6?!
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2009/12/14 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk:
I'll be sure to tell the Secretary of State for Health that
when he can't use the next release of www.nhs.uk on his office PC.
The DoH's still using IE6?!
Along with many other central government departments - yes. For
reasons outlined
On 14-Dec-2009, at 16:09, Christopher Woods wrote:
I'll be sure to tell the Secretary of State for Health that
when he can't use the next release of www.nhs.uk on his office PC.
The DoH's still using IE6?!
Last I checked, so is (much of) the BBC. I’m sure somebody here is well-placed
I'm sure some would argue that saving money by staying on an old, insecure and
hard to support browser is something of a false economy.
Alex
On 14 Dec 2009, at 16:18, Peter Bowyer wrote:
2009/12/14 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk:
I'll be sure to tell the Secretary of State for
On 14-Dec-2009, at 16:26, Christopher Woods wrote:
Along with many other central government departments - yes.
For reasons outlined very well by Phil in his last reply.
It's your money we spend.
Santa Claus on a motorbike! It's about time some of that money is allocated
to a sitewide
Along with many other central government departments - yes.
For reasons outlined very well by Phil in his last reply.
It's your money we spend.
Santa Claus on a motorbike! It's about time some of that money is allocated
to a sitewide browser upgrade :( Can't it just be lumped onto the
2009/12/14 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk:
Along with many other central government departments - yes.
For reasons outlined very well by Phil in his last reply.
It's your money we spend.
Santa Claus on a motorbike! It's about time some of that money is allocated
to a sitewide
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On 14-Dec-2009, at 16:09, Christopher
2009/12/14 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net
On 14-Dec-2009, at 16:26, Christopher Woods wrote:
We can upgrade our nuclear weapons, but not a web browser, etc., etc.
Ah, but that is the very point of the internet. The very point of IP. The
very design.
The net was designed to work even if
You're clearly well-versed in the economics of large
distributed government IT infrastructures and DH IT projects
to boot.
But of course, I'm Joe Public! It's My Money!
Your advice will be highly valued, I'm sure.
Happy to provide it. Also available for daily on-site consultancy - my fee
Ah, but that is the very point of the internet. The very point of IP. The
very design.
The net was designed to work even if nukes were dropped on the world. No
central control means network survival.
...Until one of only two core LINX routers has a senior moment or Google
On 14 Dec 2009, at 18:10, Christopher Woods wrote:
...Until one of only two core LINX routers has a senior moment or
Google decides to bork its routing ;) (cf. last week's massive
disruption and recent intercontinental slowness courtesy of the
Almighty G)
errr LINX is a switching layer
2009/12/14 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk
Ah, but that is the very point of the internet. The very point of IP. The
very design.
The net was designed to work even if nukes were dropped on the world. No
central control means network survival.
...Until one of only two
On 14-Dec-2009, at 18:10, Christopher Woods wrote:
...Until one of only two core LINX routers has a senior moment or Google
decides to bork its routing ;) (cf. last week's massive disruption and recent
intercontinental slowness courtesy of the Almighty G)
The UK still relies on a
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