[backstage] Patronising

2005-11-22 Thread Alistair Rutherford
From the front page of backstage.bbc.co.uk

ItÂ’s also refreshing to see a such healthy interest
in Web2.0 and remix outside of London

Ben,

You don't think this is more than a tad patronising?

Alistair.





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RE: [backstage] Patronising

2005-11-22 Thread Ben Metcalfe
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 From the front page of backstage.bbc.co.uk
 
 It's also refreshing to see a such healthy interest
 in Web2.0 and remix outside of London
 
 Ben,
 
 You don't think this is more than a tad patronising?
 
 Alistair.

Yes, it wasn't how I meant to phrase that.  In my defence I wrote that
just as I came off the stage having given my presentation.  I do stand
by the sentiment though, that many of us in London do forget that
there's such great stuff going on around the rest of country.


Ben

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Re: [backstage] Patronising

2005-11-22 Thread Richard Hyett
On 22/11/05, Ben Metcalfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, it wasn't how I meant to phrase that.In my defence I wrote thatjust as I came off the stage having given my presentation.I do standby the sentiment though, that many of us in London do forget that
there's such great stuff going on around the rest of country.Ben-Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group.To unsubscribe, please visit 
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Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-22 Thread Amias Channer
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:22:53 +
Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/13/05, Adam Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is a bigger problem as iMP is using standard Microsoft WMA DRM
  files.  As this is widely used, there are more people interested in
  bypassing the DRM system, and so eventually it will always be bypassed,
 
 Fair enough

DRM is a waste of time IMHO , the time would be better spent working out
a revenue model that allowed free delivery of content .
 
  plus its created by Microsoft.
 
 Right.  Could someone explain to me exactly why this is a problem? 
 Widely used, so an obvious target for bypassing - yes, I'll go along
 with that.  Created by Microsoft - no, that's not a problem.  Had
 you said Created by Microsoft and has inherent security flaws as
 demonstrated by link, link, link and this paper here written by
 whoever, then yes, that would be a valid point.  Simply slating
 something because it's created by one manufacturer is not.  I might
 not like Volvo cars, but I don't feel the need to slag off the airbag
 at every possible vaguely related opportunity.

er , you 'forgot' the lockins where its very hard / illegal for users of
other systems to gain access to documents / media produced by M$ formats
and don't get me started on the forced upgrades for profit stuff either.

That is enough for me and a growing number of people to ignore microsoft
formats out of hand. Try standing up for a company people like instead.

Toodle-pip
Amias
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Re: [backstage] Patronising

2005-11-22 Thread Graeme Mulvaney
except that the meetings are all in London, how about takingit on the road ?
On 11/22/05, Richard Northover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
alright alright, caaalm down.let's agree that geography has near enough bugger-all to do with any
of this, and go back to sleep, shall we?On 22 Nov 2005, at 13:30, Victoria Conlan wrote: Agreed! We do have computers north of the M25 you know... :-)
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Re: [backstage] Patronising

2005-11-22 Thread Dave Cross

Murray Walker wrote:


http://www.pm.org/groups/europe.html



although some of the pm groups are a bit vacant (eg, Hull).


That will get better. I'm currently working on cleaning up the list of 
Perl Monger groups. Removing the dead groups.


Dave...

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