RE: [backstage] Five Live Partnership - get your

2007-01-16 Thread Brian Butterworth
I have to agree. Being alphabetically at the end of the list it is really, really, annoying getting to 'my region' as it takes so many button presses. Also, if I want to find what's happened in Brighton, which is covered by South and South East I have to read both sections to find out if there

RE: [backstage] What is web 1, 2, and 3?

2007-01-16 Thread Brian Butterworth
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh at GoUK.com Sent: 16 January 2007 10:15 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] What is web 1, 2, and 3? That wasn't aimed at you, Brian - it was aimed at Ian. If he doesn't

RE: [backstage] SVG used by Office of National Statistics in BBC business report

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Cartwright
** This is all my personal opinion ** ONS and BBC reckon the public is ready. I don't see the BBC saying that. In fact the BBC News article disclaims itself from the content of the page linked to... The BBC is not responsible for the content of external internet sites Personally, it looks

RE: [backstage] Five Live Partnership - get your

2007-01-16 Thread Brian Butterworth
I have to agree. Being alphabetically at the end of the list it is really, really, annoying getting to 'my region' as it takes so many button presses. Someone always has to be last I'm afraid! That's part of the reason why page numbers were introduced (after an admittedly long

Re: [backstage] Five Live Partnership - get your idea commissioned.

2007-01-16 Thread Kirk Northrop
Brian Butterworth wrote: Each line of teletext is broadcast on a line of the TV screen. Do you mean magazine? -- From the North, this is Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.

RE: [backstage] Five Live Partnership - get your

2007-01-16 Thread Andrew Bowden
How about using page numbers with one and two digits as 'short codes'. Unlike Ceefax where you have to enter a three digit number, you have to press SELECT after entering the number on the digital text services. Am I having a PRESTEL flashback here? You could introduce a 'short code'

RE: [backstage] Five Live Partnership - get your idea commissioned.

2007-01-16 Thread Brian Butterworth
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Northrop Sent: 16 January 2007 13:11 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Five Live Partnership - get your idea commissioned. Brian Butterworth wrote: Each line of

RE: [backstage] SVG used by Office of National Statistics in BBC business report

2007-01-16 Thread Simon Cobb
I feel obligated to do this DISCLAIMER: these are my views - I, not the bbc, should be held responsible for any buffoonery contained herein more svg: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/DRAWINGS/clock_plain.svg but as a Flash developer my first reaction to any current svg content is nice try,

RE: [backstage] SVG used by Office of National Statistics in BBC business report

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Cartwright
Hi Jonathan, ** This is all my personal opinion ** But it isn't a tech demo is it? People (other than techies) are expect to use it - its linked to from the homepage of a large government website - hence it is inappropriate. SVG standards are designed to be accessible If an average

RE: [backstage] SVG used by Office of National Statistics in BBC business report

2007-01-16 Thread Andrew Bowden
IMHO: Technology can't hang around for the slow people to migrate, can it? One has to accept that IE 7 users need to install a plugin or go without. Flip side is, if the majority of your audience need to download a plugin to view something... will they actually bother? Or indeed can they

RE: [backstage] SVG used by Office of National Statistics in BBC business report

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Cartwright
** This is all my personal opinion ** Technology can't hang around for the slow people to migrate, can it? If you want people to use it (which the government should) then you should cater for a low commmon denominator. Using your thinking people should be broadcasting TV only in digital and

[backstage] Joost anyone?

2007-01-16 Thread Brian Butterworth
Theres an article on the BBC News website about a product from the Skype people called Joost that is, I guess, a form of IPTV. HYPERLINK http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6266391.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h i/technology/6266391.stm I've registered to test it, I was wondering if anyone has

RE: [backstage] SVG used by Office of National Statistics in BBC business report

2007-01-16 Thread Tom Pearson
Hi, Personal opinions etc... Whilst I really like the idea of an open standard for vector graphics over the web I don't think SVG is a contender (yet) for the following reasons: - The access problems Jason mentions, saying something's accesible without reference to how many people are able

Re: [backstage] SVG used by Office of National Statistics in BBC business report

2007-01-16 Thread John Drinkwater
On 16/01/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO: Technology can't hang around for the slow people to migrate, can it? One has to accept that IE 7 users need to install a plugin or go without. Flip side is, if the majority of your audience need to download a plugin to view

[backstage] Our Tom's 15 web principles for the BBC

2007-01-16 Thread Brendan Quinn
http://www.tomski.com/archive/new_archive/63.html Not really news to you folks, this started off with the discussions Kim kicked off here way back in July, but I think point 9 relates to current discussions quite well... Brendan :-) -- Brendan Quinn | Technical Architect | bbc.co.uk

Re: [backstage] SVG used by Office of National Statistics in BBC business report

2007-01-16 Thread John Drinkwater
Hi Tom, On 16/01/07, Tom Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Personal opinions etc... Whilst I really like the idea of an open standard for vector graphics over the web I don't think SVG is a contender (yet) for the following reasons: - The access problems Jason mentions, saying

Re: [backstage] SVG used by Office of National Statistics in BBC business report

2007-01-16 Thread John Drinkwater
I completely forgot something, but since Tom mentioned it.. I too am new here, so Hey everyone! On 16/01/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** This is all my personal opinion ** Technology can't hang around for the slow people to migrate, can it? If you want people to use it

[backstage] Movies Data

2007-01-16 Thread Matt Chadburn
Hi, Due in part to the new BBC Movies Interactive TV service that launched today we've had the opportunity to tidy up and document the output of a few systems that create the bbc.co.uk/movies site ... - http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/syndication/1/docs/ The service includes a few handy RSS feeds

Re: [backstage] Movies Data

2007-01-16 Thread Adam Leach
Hi, This looks really useful. One thing i've noticed is the film details don't have a link to the BBC Page, so there is no way of linking back to you easily. Are we allowed to link directly to the Movies Cinema search page from any pages created using these feeds? Adam Matt Chadburn

RE: [backstage] What is web 1, 2, and 3?

2007-01-16 Thread Ian Smith \(Irascian Ltd\)
Yes I know I can turn it off. Give me SOME credit. But there are people who I DO want to acknowledge emails from (not everything's spam!) because my email can be flakey. And no, I don't want to automate acknowledgements because then spammers get to know the email address they tried is real.

Re: [backstage] SVG used by Office of National Statistics in BBC business report

2007-01-16 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd
Tom, adobe Illustrator is well known for producing large file sizes, possibly slimly related to printing. a literally blank document can be 460kb, don't ask, I just opened Illustrator and saved a blank document ~: be sure to untick all the SVG options and this can be reduced to 4kb,