Re: [backstage] No TV-Anytime Data today

2007-06-22 Thread Adam Leach
Nah, its not that bad.  The service has worked perfectly for ages, but 
the server must be having issues at the moment.


Phil Winstanley wrote:

Perhaps we should rename it TV-Sometimes ?

:)

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Hi,

There is no TV Anytime data today :-(

Could someone give the server a kick.

Thanks

Adam
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[backstage] No TV-Anytime Data today

2007-06-22 Thread Adam Leach

Hi,

There is no TV Anytime data today :-(

Could someone give the server a kick.

Thanks

Adam
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Re: [backstage] No TV-Anytime Data today

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew McParland
We do our best :-)

We're investigating the problem (we've uploaded the data, but it hasn't been
published to the website yet).

Andrew
BBC Research

On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:08:44AM +0100, Adam Leach wrote:
 Nah, its not that bad.  The service has worked perfectly for ages, but 
 the server must be having issues at the moment.
 
 Phil Winstanley wrote:
 Perhaps we should rename it TV-Sometimes ?
 
 :)
 
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Re: [backstage] Project Kangaroo - what's the point?

2007-06-22 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts

Adam Bowie wrote:


I don't think there's a set-top box involved.



But if they make it an open standard then it's conceivable that set-top 
box makers could incorporate it into their boxes. In my opinion, the TV 
is still the best place to watch TV, so set top box integration might 
help make downloading more popular.


Also, looking at the Guardian article

The insider went on: Ultimately, Freeview boxes provide a clear way 
into a mass number of homes for their on-demand content.



So it looks like set top boxes are involved.

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Re: [backstage] Project Kangaroo - what's the point?

2007-06-22 Thread Andy

On 21/06/07, David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No. A selection of _open_, interoperable solutions would be sensible.


If only someone had written a standard for transferring data.
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc2616.txt

Or a standard for peer to peer transfers.
http://www.bittorrent.org/protocol.html

Or a standard for representing structured data.
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/

Or a standard for Audio/Video coding
http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-H.264

Or a standard for DRM
http://www.openmobilealliance.org/release_program/drm_v2_0.html

We have many standards, which stuff our we missing a standard for?

Certain organisations just refuse to use an open interoperable
standard despite them existing.

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Re: [backstage] BBC Ofcom complaint raised

2007-06-22 Thread Michael Sparks
On Friday 22 June 2007 15:21, Peter Bowyer wrote:
 Possibly everyone has decided to heed the suggestion that this topic
 is best dealt with elsewhere, leaving this list for its intended use.

Without reading the text of the complaint, OFCOM is definitely a better place
to complain that this mailing list, IMO.


Michael.
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[backstage] BBC Ofcom complaint raised

2007-06-22 Thread Jakob Fix

weird that nobody picked that up yet on this list, or could it be that
it got lost in the freethebbc debate?

http://www.opensourceconsortium.org/content/view/65/55/

wmv format is apparently the cause of the complaint.



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Re: [backstage] Project Kangaroo - what's the point?

2007-06-22 Thread Brian Butterworth

Actually, I was thinking that if there was a network of Freeview boxes the
content would be in MPEG2 already.

The only bit that would require writing is a system that creates a tracker
for each recorded programme...


On 22/06/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 21/06/07, David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No. A selection of _open_, interoperable solutions would be sensible.

If only someone had written a standard for transferring data.
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc2616.txt

Or a standard for peer to peer transfers.
http://www.bittorrent.org/protocol.html

Or a standard for representing structured data.
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/

Or a standard for Audio/Video coding
http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-H.264

Or a standard for DRM
http://www.openmobilealliance.org/release_program/drm_v2_0.html

We have many standards, which stuff our we missing a standard for?

Certain organisations just refuse to use an open interoperable
standard despite them existing.

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RE: [backstage] No TV-Anytime Data today

2007-06-22 Thread Ian Forrester
Yes we're really sorry guys.

We're working on a better solution for the files but for now please bear with 
us.

Cheers

Ian Forrester

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Not sure when this is going to be fixed.

In the mean time, if you want the TV-Anytime format schedule data for the 
missing day, you can get the relevant ProgramInformation and ProgramLocation 
tables by doing a single call to the API, e.g. for the data for all channels on 
the 29th June:

http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/api/query.pl?method=bbc.schedule.getProgrammeschannel_id=BBCOne,BBCTwo,BBCThree,BBCFour,BBCCBBC,BBCCbeebies,BBCNewsTF,BBCParl,BBCROne,BBCRTwo,BBCRThree,BBCRFour,BBCRFiveL,BBCRFiveX,BBCSixMU,BBCSeven,OneXtra,BBCAsian,BBCWrldstart=2007-06-29T00:00:00Zend=2007-06-29T23:59:59Zlimit=500format=tvanytime

(Note the 500 programme limit.)

Sorry for the hassle,

Andrew
BBC Research and Innovation

On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:38:42PM +0100, Andrew McParland wrote:
 We do our best :-)
 
 We're investigating the problem (we've uploaded the data, but it 
 hasn't been published to the website yet).
 
 Andrew
 BBC Research
 
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:08:44AM +0100, Adam Leach wrote:
  Nah, its not that bad.  The service has worked perfectly for ages, 
  but the server must be having issues at the moment.
  
  Phil Winstanley wrote:
  Perhaps we should rename it TV-Sometimes ?
  
  :)
  
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  Hi,
  
  There is no TV Anytime data today :-(
  
  Could someone give the server a kick.
  
  Thanks
  
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Re: [backstage] Project Kangaroo - what's the point?

2007-06-22 Thread Gordon Joly

At 13:17 +0100 22/6/07, Andy wrote:

On 21/06/07, David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No. A selection of _open_, interoperable solutions would be sensible.


If only someone had written a standard for transferring data.
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc2616.txt

Or a standard for peer to peer transfers.
http://www.bittorrent.org/protocol.html

Or a standard for representing structured data.
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/

Or a standard for Audio/Video coding
http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-H.264

Or a standard for DRM
http://www.openmobilealliance.org/release_program/drm_v2_0.html

We have many standards, which stuff our we missing a standard for?

Certain organisations just refuse to use an open interoperable
standard despite them existing.




And RFC 822?

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