Re: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music

On 24/11/2007, Martin Belam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nobody thinks DRM is safe - it just has to be "safe enough". I wouldn't say it was "safe" at all, but I know you weren't talking about "our" perspective. ;) -- Noah Slater "Creativity can be a social contribut

Re: [backstage] Muddy Boots on Backstage

On Nov 21, 2007 4:32 PM, robl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Just thought I'd accompany the latest post to the backstage blog > (http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/11/from_last_years_1.html) > with some examples of muddyboots in action. For those of you who aren't > awar

Re: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music

On Nov 23, 2007 12:20 PM, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [quoting me in April] > > > > It's possible for all our podcasts to be produced in Ogg Vorbis > > automatically, too. Indeed, all our on-demand audio is already encoded > into > > Ogg Vorbis, for when it becomes a popular codec (a

Re: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music

> So what you are really saying is that as long as it is not generally known that saving streams is easy to do, then this is fig leaf to placate the rights holders. To be less glib than I have been on here recently, erm, pretty much that is it. *I* know you can rip streams to files to keep for e

Re: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music

On Saturday 24 November 2007 16:55:38 Michael Sparks wrote: > If a copyright license doesn't explicitly allow you to do something, and > it's a permitted exception "and _if_ it's _not_" I meant of course... :-) Michael - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please

Re: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music

On Saturday 24 November 2007 15:05:05 Stuart Ward wrote: > Why is this, because it is pretty simple to copy the stream to a file > and and save it. I read the terms and conditions and there was nothing > to prevent me doing this for my personal use. If a copyright license doesn't explicitly allow

Re: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music

On 24/11/2007, Noah Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 24/11/2007, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And why is this different to the broadcast radio where there are > plenty > > > of devices that allow the recording of a radio program. > > > > Because when it is broadcast it

Re: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music

On 24/11/2007, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And why is this different to the broadcast radio where there are plenty > > of devices that allow the recording of a radio program. > > Because when it is broadcast it's a single one-to-many pipe, streaming is > lots of small pipes..

Re: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music

On 24/11/2007, Stuart Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Tristan Ferne said the following on 23/11/07 09:39: > > > > The programmes on the Radio Player are presented as streams only. The > > BBC's agreements with rights holders prevent the BBC from authorising > > copies being made of internet

Re: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music

On 24/11/2007, Stuart Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is this, because it is pretty simple to copy the stream to a file > and and save it. I read the terms and conditions and there was nothing > to prevent me doing this for my personal use. Of course, there is already a free software tool to

Re: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music

Tristan Ferne said the following on 23/11/07 09:39: > > The programmes on the Radio Player are presented as streams only. The > BBC's agreements with rights holders prevent the BBC from authorising > copies being made of internet audio streams. > > Hope that helps, > > Tristan Why is this, be