Re: [backstage] BBC TWO Programme timings

[Brian Butterworth]

On 28/01/2008, Martin Deutsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Brian Butterworth
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Consequently I went to look at the schedule feeds again, and I built a
> TV
> > Anytime feed from:
> >
> >
> http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/bbc.schedule.getProgrammes.html
> >
> > And then I had a look at the feed:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/3c4cb9
> >
> > And I note, for example:
> >
> >
> >
> dvb://233a.1004.1044;[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]:29:44Z/PT00H30M
> >
> > That the time listed is 20:29:44 for example, then there is
> >
> > 2008-01-28T20:30:00Z
> >
> > So, it's not a secret, it IS published and it looks like I need to get
> onto
> > Microsoft and get them to use the right data
>
> Wow. I honestly didn't realise that was out there. I wonder if ITV do?
> It's still obviously got the caveat that, despite everyone's best
> efforts in playout, programmes don't always run exactly to time, even
> in largely automated channels such as on the UKTV network; and your
> best bet of keeping track of programmes running is using the EIT.


Yes..  but it's probably easier to get Microsoft to fix their EPG than
rewrite their BDA.


I don't have a copy of the Radio Times handy, but I'll maybe get
> started eating the Guardian's tv pages.


I bet Charlie Brooker gives you indigestion if you do...


> Appreciate feedback about the iGoogle theme... I'm thinking that a BBC TV
> > one that shows 1, 2, 3, 4 or  1, 2, CB, CB.  Is there a way to get a
> picture
> > for each programme automatically?
>
> the iPlayer site has programme images, which look easy to get,
> provided you can get the PIP: eg
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/images/episode/b008s9k6_150_84.jpg
> (150_84 is the image dimensions, 303_170 should work too)
> Perhaps someone here will know how far in the past/future they exist;
> putting in a dud PIP will give a generic iPlayer logo.


Is there an easy way to get the b008s9k6 bit from the TV Anytime data?


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Re: [backstage] BBC TWO Programme timings

[Martin Deutsch]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Brian Butterworth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Consequently I went to look at the schedule feeds again, and I built a TV
> Anytime feed from:
>
> http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/bbc.schedule.getProgrammes.html
>
> And then I had a look at the feed:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3c4cb9
>
> And I note, for example:
>
>
> dvb://233a.1004.1044;[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]:29:44Z/PT00H30M
>
> That the time listed is 20:29:44 for example, then there is
>
> 2008-01-28T20:30:00Z
>
> So, it's not a secret, it IS published and it looks like I need to get onto
> Microsoft and get them to use the right data

Wow. I honestly didn't realise that was out there. I wonder if ITV do?
It's still obviously got the caveat that, despite everyone's best
efforts in playout, programmes don't always run exactly to time, even
in largely automated channels such as on the UKTV network; and your
best bet of keeping track of programmes running is using the EIT.

I don't have a copy of the Radio Times handy, but I'll maybe get
started eating the Guardian's tv pages.

> Appreciate feedback about the iGoogle theme... I'm thinking that a BBC TV
> one that shows 1, 2, 3, 4 or  1, 2, CB, CB.  Is there a way to get a picture
> for each programme automatically?

the iPlayer site has programme images, which look easy to get,
provided you can get the PIP: eg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/images/episode/b008s9k6_150_84.jpg
(150_84 is the image dimensions, 303_170 should work too)
Perhaps someone here will know how far in the past/future they exist;
putting in a dud PIP will give a generic iPlayer logo.

 - martin
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Re: [backstage] BBC TWO Programme timings

[Brian Butterworth]

Right, I'll try Microsoft.  Thanks for everyone's help on this.

*http://tinyurl.com/2wpzjj*



On 28/01/2008, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Now I feel a bit dumb!
>
> I started looking at building a "theme" for iGoogle and thought that as
> you can get them to change based on the current local time, I would make a
> BBC ONE version for backstage.
>
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/ig?skin=http://www.ukfree.tv/igoogle/igoogle-theme0001.xml
>
> Consequently I went to look at the schedule feeds again, and I built a TV
> Anytime feed from:
>
> http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/bbc.schedule.getProgrammes.html
>
> And then I had a look at the feed:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3c4cb9
>
> And I note, for example:
>
>
> dvb://233a.1004.1044;[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]:29:44Z/PT00H30M
>
> That the time listed is 20:29:44 for example, then there is
>
> 2008-01-28T20:30:00Z
>
> So, it's not a secret, it IS published and it looks like I need to get
> onto Microsoft and get them to use the right data
>
>
> Appreciate feedback about the iGoogle theme... I'm thinking that a BBC TV
> one that shows 1, 2, 3, 4 or  1, 2, CB, CB.  Is there a way to get a picture
> for each programme automatically?
>
> ---
> Brian
>



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Re: [backstage] BBC TWO Programme timings

[Brian Butterworth]

Now I feel a bit dumb!

I started looking at building a "theme" for iGoogle and thought that as you
can get them to change based on the current local time, I would make a BBC
ONE version for backstage.

http://www.google.co.uk/ig?skin=http://www.ukfree.tv/igoogle/igoogle-theme0001.xml

Consequently I went to look at the schedule feeds again, and I built a TV
Anytime feed from:

http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/bbc.schedule.getProgrammes.html

And then I had a look at the feed:

http://tinyurl.com/3c4cb9

And I note, for example:


dvb://233a.1004.1044;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:29:44Z/PT00H30M

That the time listed is 20:29:44 for example, then there is

2008-01-28T20:30:00Z

So, it's not a secret, it IS published and it looks like I need to get onto
Microsoft and get them to use the right data


Appreciate feedback about the iGoogle theme... I'm thinking that a BBC TV
one that shows 1, 2, 3, 4 or  1, 2, CB, CB.  Is there a way to get a picture
for each programme automatically?

---
Brian

RE: [backstage] Last.fm for television

[Gareth Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Bowyer
> Sent: 28 January 2008 13:48
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [backstage] Last.fm for television
> 
> On 28/01/2008, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I presume that a TV version of last.fm would be last.uhf?
> 
> last.am would be more consistent, if slightly confusing.
> 
> Peter
> (who hates mixing frequency ranges and modulation types when
> describing RF transmissions)

Unless it's DTT, in which case it's last.qam

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Re: [backstage] Last.fm for television

[Steve Jolly]

Peter Bowyer wrote:

On 28/01/2008, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I presume that a TV version of last.fm would be last.uhf?


last.am would be more consistent, if slightly confusing.


last.dssc? :-)
last.cofdm perhaps, now that we're rapidly heading for digital switchover...

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Re: [backstage] Last.fm for television

[Peter Bowyer]

On 28/01/2008, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I presume that a TV version of last.fm would be last.uhf?

last.am would be more consistent, if slightly confusing.

Peter
(who hates mixing frequency ranges and modulation types when
describing RF transmissions)


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Re: [backstage] Last.fm for television

[Brian Butterworth]

Jonathan,

Thanks for your work on the iPlayer Facebook app...

I presume that a TV version of last.fm would be last.uhf?


On 27/01/2008, Jonathan Tweed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I've just released an update to the iPlayer Facebook application that
> has user compatibility features a la Last.fm.
>
> It's a bit primitive at the moment but I've detailed the problems and
> my current thinking here:
>
> http://jonathan.tweed.name/2008/01/lastfm-for-television
>
> I'd love to get a discussion going on the list about the best ways to
> do recommendations around television and radio programmes for both
> user-user and item-item applications.
>
> Cheers
> Jonathan
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[backstage] iGoogle themes .. any ideas for a BBC one?

[Brian Butterworth]

I was thinking I might do an iGoogle  BBC Theme,
now there's an API for it.

  http://code.google.com/apis/themes/docs/dev_guide.html

Any suggestions or requests?  I wondered about doing an
iPlayerone...