Hi David,
The Freesat platform is being set up and managed by a separate company (of
the same name) that has been set up by those participating (BBC, ITV etc).
I've asked around the team at RD who are working with them on the
technical infrastructure and specifications. Unfortunately it
people don't have a moral obligation to share with other if they don't
want to
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From: John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Feb 2008 03:31
Subject: [Gnash-dev] EFF: Adobe Pushes DRM for Flash
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http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/02/adobe-pushes-drm-flash
... most sites that use these [Flash and FLV] formats
Quoting Nick Reynolds-FMT [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
people don't have a moral obligation to share with other if they don't
want to
Nobody is saying that they do.
But people should not generally be prevented from helping others, for
example by sharing with them, should they wish to do so.
- Rob.
Hi Matt,
Thanks for taking the trouble to find out. I rather thought that there
would be some issue of exclusive access to the specs. At least Freesat
are aware of the issue.
From the MHEG side I can at least experiment with the test streams that
are already being transmitted and try to
Then it comes down to the individual who is entitled to choose a system
that prevents sharing if they wish.
It's not wrong to refuse to share with someone. As was implied
earlier.
However it is probably true that sharing works better than not sharing
in some circumstances.
People are confusing
I think this is blurring the line between what constitutes DRM and
what constitutes a proprietary streaming protocol. The article doesn't
really go into any technical detail about what they're referring to,
but I take it they're referring to RTMP. This isn't DRM as the files
inside the protocol
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200704/041607AMP.html
snip
For content publishers, Adobe Media Player enables better ways to
deliver, monetize, brand, track and protect video content. It provides
an array of video delivery options for high-quality online and offline
On 26/02/2008, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's never bothered Dave before.
Actually of all the free software advocates, Dave is certainly the
least confrontational, and most friendly.
*You* may disagree with his views, however your actions demonstrate
your readiness to listen
I agree with Tim Dobson and welcome getting views that make me think from
all parts of the thought spectrum. Consider may of posts I read to be
thought provoking. If other people feel they are trolled by Dave's views,
then that's their own feelings - but I welcome his comments and find the
Quoting Nick Reynolds-FMT [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It's not wrong to refuse to share with someone. As was implied
earlier.
It depends on the circumstances.
But what is wrong is to forbid people from being to help people
regardless of the circumstances, for example by sharing with them,
even if
On 29/02/2008, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course the BBC has a duty to educate. The use of proprietary
protocols/formats is a direct contradiction to this duty. How can we
educate people when we can not even tell them how things work. It is
really damaging the future of education and the
On 29/02/2008, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't that akin to criticising the BBC for not making sure everyone
knows about how its (former) transmitters work?
You are entirely misinterpreting what I am saying.
I didn't say the BBC should make sure everyone knows how their
protocols
Of course the BBC has a duty to educate. The use of proprietary
protocols/formats is a direct contradiction to this duty. How can we
educate people when we can not even tell them how things work.
I can see where your coming from in regard to the software that runs the
platforms to deliver
On 28/02/2008, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the BBC publishes information in open formats/protocols that have
only proprietary software implementations, it ought to be criticized
and pressured to start or contribute to the development of free
software implementations.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But what is wrong is to forbid people from being to help people
regardless of the circumstances, for example by sharing with them, even
if they want to. This is what proprietary software does.
It's also what happens when railways require photocards for season
I'd keep an eye on a thread over at digitalspy from others are experimenting
with the Freesat EPG data currentlty being transmitted.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=751053
Dave
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