Re: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Martin Belam
Since the BBC is more generally accused of being pro-Chavez because it enjoys his anti-US position, maybe this is just a bit of balance? More seriously, it does raise wider issues about how Internet access and language skew online representation. The BBC is always very clear that polls online are

RE: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Deirdre Harvey
Deirdre Harvey :: Web Producer :: BBC Newsline :: Newsroom :: BBC Broadcasting House :: Ormeau Avenue :: Belfast BT2 8HQ :: ph. 02890 338264 http://bbc.co.uk/newsline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian

Re: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Sam Mbale
I think the Venezuelan diplomat is half right. As more and more political debate is conducted online those with limitedor no access to the Internet are not represented fairly. From my experience most poor people accessing the Internet from cafes are too busy emailing relatives for money or some

Re: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Dan Brickley
Andy Halsall wrote: Of course you've also limited the debate to those who have the capability and the inclination to participate in such a debate on a foreign broadcaster's website, whatever language(s) it's hosted in. Very good point, although I don't know how prevalent internet access is in

Re: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Brian Butterworth
Interesting point of debate. This logic says that it is possible only to have an opinion if you speak the language of the country that you have a though about. This is just silly, I can like a part of Wales without speaking Welsh! It may be impolite to talk about people abroad in English without

Re: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Peter Bowyer
2008/12/8 Andy Halsall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 08 December 2008 11:42:24 Brian Butterworth wrote: Interesting point of debate. This logic says that it is possible only to have an opinion if you speak the language of the country that you have a though about. No, the logic seems to be

Re: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Andy Halsall
Of course you've also limited the debate to those who have the capability and the inclination to participate in such a debate on a foreign broadcaster's website, whatever language(s) it's hosted in. Very good point, although I don't know how prevalent internet access is in Venezuela and how

[backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Dominic Smith
Good morning list, I don't suppose many of you are aware of this, but this morning the BBC News Online website is being accused of bias by the Venezuelan Ambassador to the UK for a very (IMHO) interesting reason. For those who can read Spanish, the details of the accusation are on the Venezuelan

RE: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Robert Binney
This just sounds like a classic BBC cock-up/lack of co-ordination to me. Best wishes Robert Binney Global News Division BBC World Service * Desk: +44(0)2075573245 * Mob: 07711910957 (Internal 312833) * 123SE Bush House, The Strand, London WC2B 4PH

Re: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Andy Halsall
On Monday 08 December 2008 11:42:24 Brian Butterworth wrote: Interesting point of debate. This logic says that it is possible only to have an opinion if you speak the language of the country that you have a though about. No, the logic seems to be that requiring comments in a language that only

Re: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Rich Vazquez
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting point of debate. This logic says that it is possible only to have an opinion if you speak the language of the country that you have a though about. This is just silly, I can like a part of Wales without

Re: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Gavin Johnson
On 08/12/2008 14:06, Rich Vazquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting point of debate. This logic says that it is possible only to have an opinion if you speak the language of the country that you have a though

[backstage] Media Selector query

2008-12-08 Thread adancy+backstage
Bit of a geeky query this one, so sorry in advance if it all gets a bit technical. I've noticed since the Local Radio changes to iplayer a couple of weeks ago that the mediaselector XML that I (and several other sites) use to get links to Real Audio content that is available on iplayer has

RE: [backstage] Media Selector query

2008-12-08 Thread Ian Forrester
never feel sorry for being too geeky! Ah see what you mean, so some kind of attribute would be useful but currently the spec doesn't support it. Or maybe we should be producing two different types of feeds? One international and the other UK? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask

RE: [backstage] Media Selector query

2008-12-08 Thread adancy+backstage
You never know how technical to go before people start falling asleep at their desks.. The latter idea (a separate feed) would probably be easier to implement in the short term - perhaps an international version of the mediaselector with a similar URL pattern to the current one