[backstage] Interview with Rupert Murdoch
37 minute interview with Rupert Murdoch... Very interesting to hear his perspective on everything, however much I disagree with it. He calls the BBC a scandal... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7GkJqRv3BI Thoughts? Anyone think he's got some valid points? Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] NO Encryption of HD by the BBC !
On 10-Nov-2009, at 10:50, Andrew Bowden wrote: The big shock was that (and I read all of the responses) no content provider was prepared to say why they asked the BBC for it in the first place. No PACT. No BSkyB. I reckon (and this is a personal, uninformed view) the relevant content providers were in the US rather than the UK. And if so, they probably wouldn't have seen the Ofcom consultation. One would have thought somebody might have tipped them off, considering. ’course, the fact that nobody did lends weight to the view that the BBC didn’t really want to be doing it in the first place. One question does remain, though. Graham Plumb stated back in September: “But a form of content management is required to enable us to launch Freeview HD to audiences in early 2010” http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/09/freeview_hd_copy_protection_up.html I took pelters from some quarters for suggesting that this might actually not be the case. As far as I know, the launch schedule for FVHD hasn’t changed (and isn’t likely to this late on in the game), and there’s been nothing put forward to the Trust for a new service (e.g., BBC HD with the tricky-to-license bits taken out). So, what was he on about? M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November.
There are none currently in the market however the Freeview HD specification includes an ethernet port. Obviously there are none currently in the market yet, however there will be some soon - expect a big rush to market for the World Cup next year. From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 04 November 2009 09:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November. Can you name a single Freeview box with an Ethernet port? 2009/11/4 Nico Morrison microni...@gmail.com http://www.trustedreviews.com/home-cinema/news/2009/11/04/BBC-iPlayer-Hi ts-Freesat-in-November/p1 Does that mean we'll get it on Freeview as well? Nico M -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] NO Encryption of HD by the BBC !
Out of interest, does anyone have the new list of 20 Freeview HD transmitters? My Freeview contact seems to be away. 2009/11/10 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net On 10-Nov-2009, at 10:50, Andrew Bowden wrote: The big shock was that (and I read all of the responses) no content provider was prepared to say why they asked the BBC for it in the first place. No PACT. No BSkyB. I reckon (and this is a personal, uninformed view) the relevant content providers were in the US rather than the UK. And if so, they probably wouldn't have seen the Ofcom consultation. One would have thought somebody might have tipped them off, considering. ’course, the fact that nobody did lends weight to the view that the BBC didn’t really want to be doing it in the first place. One question does remain, though. Graham Plumb stated back in September: “But a form of content management is required to enable us to launch Freeview HD to audiences in early 2010” http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/09/freeview_hd_copy_protection_up.html I took pelters from some quarters for suggesting that this might actually not be the case. As far as I know, the launch schedule for FVHD hasn’t changed (and isn’t likely to this late on in the game), and there’s been nothing put forward to the Trust for a new service (e.g., BBC HD with the tricky-to-license bits taken out). So, what was he on about? M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] NO Encryption of HD by the BBC !
On 10-Nov-2009, at 13:00, Mo McRoberts wrote: On 10-Nov-2009, at 12:50, Brian Butterworth wrote: Out of interest, does anyone have the new list of 20 Freeview HD transmitters? My Freeview contact seems to be away. Does digital.co.uk not tell you (in a slightly cubersome way)? http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/when_do_i_switch/ Wait, ignore me. That has things pegged for first-half 2011 which are being talked about this week as being early 2010 now. Apologies. (Though if digital.co.uk is now wrong and a revised list has leaked, that’s all manner of screw-ups in one go). M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November.
Interesting. It is clearly an updated version of the Netgem Iplayer device http://www.fetchtv.dslshop.co.uk/details.aspx?idProduct=1393 looks like they have their own subscription service for additional downloads. and includes statement saying that it can get stuff from BBC iPlayer catch up on shows you have missed watching BBC iPlayer Also claims: Multi-stream - up to 2 SD or HD simultaneous decoded streams No obvious statement that it can play the upcoming Freeview HD content but I presume that this is the plan. Main site: http://www.fetchtv.co.uk/ Paul On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:48:29 -, you wrote: The iPlayer set top box is now being used by Fetch TV. http://www.fetchtv.dslshop.co.uk/smartbox7000.aspx -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Webster Sent: 04 November 2009 15:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November. Netgem launched their device in 2002 and stopped selling it in UK around 2006 http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/iplayer.html#availability However, they kept going in France (their home) and used their experience with Freeview to be ready for the French equivalent that launched later (TNT). http://www.netgem.com/ I have one - with Ethernet and IR keyboard. I fiddled with it at the start ... including transparent HTML overlay so could see new mail icon in bottom right of screen which I could then check (e.g. during adverts). Paul On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:11:40 +, you wrote: Nope. http://www.digitallogo.co.uk/company_search.php 2009/11/4 Simon Thompson simon.thomp...@rd.bbc.co.uk Was the Netgem ever awarded a Digital Tick? Paul Webster wrote: Freeview with Ethernet - yes Netgem iPlayer (yes - they had been using the name for ages before BBC iPlayer). Lots of advanced features - for it's time. (Ethernet via USB dongle) Paul -- Sent from my phone On 4 Nov 2009, at 09:35, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Can you name a single Freeview box with an Ethernet port? 2009/11/4 Nico Morrison microni...@gmail.com http://www.trustedreviews.com/home-cinema/news/2009/11/04/BBC-iPlaye r-Hits-Freesat-in-November/p1 Does that mean we'll get it on Freeview as well? Nico M -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- -- *Simon Thompson MEng MIET* Research and Development Engineer simon.thomp...@rd.bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Interview with Rupert Murdoch
There's an article on the guardian about how he wants to sue the BBC http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2009/nov/10/rupert-murdoch-bbc Apparently, the BBC is stealing his news. I wonder how long it will be before he retires. Scot On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:05, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tvwrote: Rupert - you are the weakest A HREF, goodbye 2009/11/10 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net 37 minute interview with Rupert Murdoch... Very interesting to hear his perspective on everything, however much I disagree with it. He calls the BBC a scandal... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7GkJqRv3BI Thoughts? Anyone think he's got some valid points? Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] Interview with Rupert Murdoch
On 10-Nov-2009, at 13:29, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: There's an article on the guardian about how he wants to sue the BBC http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2009/nov/10/rupert-murdoch-bbc Apparently, the BBC is stealing his news. I wonder how long it will be before he retires. I wouldn’t count on that being much help. James, at the very least, is even worse than he is (and has the current Shadow Culture Secretary on-side). M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Interview with Rupert Murdoch
For a different take on events, Mark Cuban thinks Murdoch is right and that News Corp only needs Twitter http://blogmaverick.com/2009/11/09/rupert-murdoch-to-block-google-smart-twitter-has-changed-it-all/ Though you would think with the way Murdoch is claiming everyone is stealing his news, he'd accuse Twitter of it as well. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:29, Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote: There's an article on the guardian about how he wants to sue the BBC http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2009/nov/10/rupert-murdoch-bbc Apparently, the BBC is stealing his news. I wonder how long it will be before he retires. Scot On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:05, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tvwrote: Rupert - you are the weakest A HREF, goodbye 2009/11/10 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net 37 minute interview with Rupert Murdoch... Very interesting to hear his perspective on everything, however much I disagree with it. He calls the BBC a scandal... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7GkJqRv3BI Thoughts? Anyone think he's got some valid points? Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November.
I've got one (though I've not signed up to to the VOD service). You can get them for around 30 quid on ebay. The best thing about it is that you can pull recordings off of it over the network (no DRM needed to enable this sort of functionality either ;-) It's also useful as UPNP network media player. I doubt it will work with Freeview HD, simply because it doesn't have a DVB-T2 chip. I would guess a future upgraded model will. Scot On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:20, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: Interesting. It is clearly an updated version of the Netgem Iplayer device http://www.fetchtv.dslshop.co.uk/details.aspx?idProduct=1393 looks like they have their own subscription service for additional downloads. and includes statement saying that it can get stuff from BBC iPlayer catch up on shows you have missed watching BBC iPlayer Also claims: Multi-stream - up to 2 SD or HD simultaneous decoded streams No obvious statement that it can play the upcoming Freeview HD content but I presume that this is the plan. Main site: http://www.fetchtv.co.uk/ Paul On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:48:29 -, you wrote: The iPlayer set top box is now being used by Fetch TV. http://www.fetchtv.dslshop.co.uk/smartbox7000.aspx -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Webster Sent: 04 November 2009 15:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November. Netgem launched their device in 2002 and stopped selling it in UK around 2006 http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/iplayer.html#availability However, they kept going in France (their home) and used their experience with Freeview to be ready for the French equivalent that launched later (TNT). http://www.netgem.com/ I have one - with Ethernet and IR keyboard. I fiddled with it at the start ... including transparent HTML overlay so could see new mail icon in bottom right of screen which I could then check (e.g. during adverts). Paul On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:11:40 +, you wrote: Nope. http://www.digitallogo.co.uk/company_search.php 2009/11/4 Simon Thompson simon.thomp...@rd.bbc.co.uk Was the Netgem ever awarded a Digital Tick? Paul Webster wrote: Freeview with Ethernet - yes Netgem iPlayer (yes - they had been using the name for ages before BBC iPlayer). Lots of advanced features - for it's time. (Ethernet via USB dongle) Paul -- Sent from my phone On 4 Nov 2009, at 09:35, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Can you name a single Freeview box with an Ethernet port? 2009/11/4 Nico Morrison microni...@gmail.com http://www.trustedreviews.com/home-cinema/news/2009/11/04/BBC-iPlaye r-Hits-Freesat-in-November/p1 Does that mean we'll get it on Freeview as well? Nico M -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- -- *Simon Thompson MEng MIET* Research and Development Engineer simon.thomp...@rd.bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] NO Encryption of HD by the BBC !
I was after the extended list that WotSat say they have. I need dates, frequencies and output power levels!!! 2009/11/10 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net On 10-Nov-2009, at 13:00, Mo McRoberts wrote: On 10-Nov-2009, at 12:50, Brian Butterworth wrote: Out of interest, does anyone have the new list of 20 Freeview HD transmitters? My Freeview contact seems to be away. Does digital.co.uk not tell you (in a slightly cubersome way)? http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/when_do_i_switch/ Wait, ignore me. That has things pegged for first-half 2011 which are being talked about this week as being early 2010 now. Apologies. (Though if digital.co.uk is now wrong and a revised list has leaked, that’s all manner of screw-ups in one go). M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] NO Encryption of HD by the BBC !
Oh, look, after 24 hours BBC News has got the story! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8352241.stm 2009/11/10 Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv I was after the extended list that WotSat say they have. I need dates, frequencies and output power levels!!! 2009/11/10 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net On 10-Nov-2009, at 13:00, Mo McRoberts wrote: On 10-Nov-2009, at 12:50, Brian Butterworth wrote: Out of interest, does anyone have the new list of 20 Freeview HD transmitters? My Freeview contact seems to be away. Does digital.co.uk not tell you (in a slightly cubersome way)? http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/when_do_i_switch/ Wait, ignore me. That has things pegged for first-half 2011 which are being talked about this week as being early 2010 now. Apologies. (Though if digital.co.uk is now wrong and a revised list has leaked, that’s all manner of screw-ups in one go). M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] Interview with Rupert Murdoch
I think of him as James Ferregi Murdoch, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition 2009/11/10 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net On 10-Nov-2009, at 13:29, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: There's an article on the guardian about how he wants to sue the BBC http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2009/nov/10/rupert-murdoch-bbc Apparently, the BBC is stealing his news. I wonder how long it will be before he retires. I wouldn’t count on that being much help. James, at the very least, is even worse than he is (and has the current Shadow Culture Secretary on-side). M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November.
It's really, really irratating that none of the iPlayer stuff understands the Windows Media keys. Even Spotify manages that. 2009/11/10 Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk Interesting. It is clearly an updated version of the Netgem Iplayer device http://www.fetchtv.dslshop.co.uk/details.aspx?idProduct=1393 looks like they have their own subscription service for additional downloads. and includes statement saying that it can get stuff from BBC iPlayer catch up on shows you have missed watching BBC iPlayer Yes - from what I've seen, they have hacked the Bigscreen version in order to make it work with cursor keys. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November.
Combine it with http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=186127 Hisense 1080p HD TV Media Player - plays just about every format I use. Now that would interest me. Regards, Nico Morrison 2009/11/10 Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk Interesting. It is clearly an updated version of the Netgem Iplayer device http://www.fetchtv.dslshop.co.uk/details.aspx?idProduct=1393 looks like they have their own subscription service for additional downloads. and includes statement saying that it can get stuff from BBC iPlayer catch up on shows you have missed watching BBC iPlayer Yes - from what I've seen, they have hacked the Bigscreen version in order to make it work with cursor keys. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November.
No obvious statement that it can play the upcoming Freeview HD content but I presume that this is the plan. I'm not sure where they're going to get DVB-T2 chipsets from... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November.
No obvious statement that it can play the upcoming Freeview HD content but I presume that this is the plan. I'm not sure where they're going to get DVB-T2 chipsets from... TI/RadioScape make them don't they? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
