[backstage] Good news for mashups - Ordnance Survey maps to go free online

2009-11-18 Thread Brian Butterworth
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/17/ordnance-survey-maps-online

The online maps would be free to all, including commercial users who,
previously, had to acquire expensive and restrictive licences at £5,000 per
usage, a fee many entrepreneurs felt was too high.

About time too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/17/ordnance-survey-maps-online
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RE: [backstage] Good news for mashups - Ordnance Survey maps to go free online

2009-11-18 Thread Christopher Woods
 


http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/17/ordnance-survey-maps-online


The online maps would be free to all, including commercial users who,
previously, had to acquire expensive and restrictive licences at £5,000 per
usage, a fee many entrepreneurs felt was too high.


About time too. 

Some interesting discussion of these developments happening on the OSM-talk
list (from what it seems, it's not fully free (as in speech), more like a
subset of the information with the possibility of more being made available
at a later date if the right people prod the OS enough ;) 


RE: [backstage] Good news for mashups - Ordnance Survey maps to go free online

2009-11-18 Thread Ian Forrester
Wow, I'm shocked.
 
I remember the first day I took over backstage talking to the OS about copying 
backstage in the OS. They had a mapping API but it was private beta only and I 
think lacked core functions and data people doing mashups would have liked. 
Anyway once the door is open, its very hard to close it, after the horse has 
bolted. Aka this maybe the start of something very big.
 
Cheers,

Secret[] Private[] Public[x]

Ian Forrester
Senior Backstage Producer

BBC RD North Lab,
1st Floor Office, OB Base,
New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road,
Manchester, M60 1SJ 

 




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http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/17/ordnance-survey-maps-online 

The online maps would be free to all, including commercial users who, 
previously, had to acquire expensive and restrictive licences at £5,000 per 
usage, a fee many entrepreneurs felt was too high.


About time too.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/17/ordnance-survey-maps-online 
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Re: [backstage] Good news for mashups - Ordnance Survey maps to go free online

2009-11-18 Thread Brian Butterworth
When I was at BT Broadcast we needed the OS data to do proper radial
distance (as the crow would fly if it were made of light) and I think it
cost us a 10% share of £25m, as I recall.

Now I must get around to using the wikileaks postcode data to create some
edge-traced KML postcode zone layres to mix up with upmystreet.com's ACORN
groups...

2009/11/18 Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk

  Wow, I'm shocked.

 I remember the first day I took over backstage talking to the OS about
 copying backstage in the OS. They had a mapping API but it was private beta
 only and I think lacked core functions and data people doing mashups would
 have liked. Anyway once the door is open, its very hard to close it, after
 the horse has bolted. Aka this maybe the start of something very big.

 Cheers,

 Secret[] Private[] Public[x]

 Ian Forrester
 Senior Backstage Producer

 BBC RD North Lab,
 1st Floor Office, OB Base,
 New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road,
 Manchester, M60 1SJ


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 http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/17/ordnance-survey-maps-online

 The online maps would be free to all, including commercial users who,
 previously, had to acquire expensive and restrictive licences at £5,000 per
 usage, a fee many entrepreneurs felt was too high.

 About time too.
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/17/ordnance-survey-maps-online
 --

 Brian Butterworth

 follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist
 web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover
 advice, since 2002




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Re: [backstage] [Fwd: Maker Faire Newcastle 2010]

2009-11-18 Thread Ant Miller
We have been in discussion with the organises pretty much constantly
since the last event, and we'd really like to support the next event
too- we had a brilliant time this year with BBCWeatherbot.com (site
still up- the BBC site controllers ain't seen it yet obviously!) and
it was good for staff involved.

However there's context:
1/. it clashes this year with the Big Bang science fair in Manchester,
whch we also want to support.
2/. there was a similar event we clashed with last time held in
Glasgow, and we really want to try and share the love around a bit
rather than be focussed on a single thing year in year out.
3/. it was cheap for us to do in terms of money (just the car hire,
accomodation and a few extra bits of kit) but actually very expensive
in terms of time- I recon we spent about 20 person-days in prep, and
for the weekend we had seven staff who between them probably snatched
6 hours sleep (ah the fun of 4am debugs!).
4/. as has ben said, it is very near to the move.  I can't overstate
what a huge deal the move is- it's already devouring a large chunk of
everyone's time, and in February next year just don't expect to hear a
peep out of anyone from the RD south lab.  The aim is to be back 'in
harness' by the 15th of March, immediately after Maker Faire!

In light of this, I'm sending all the kit we have built up to support
these things to Manchester.  That is NOT everything we sent to
Newcastle of course, because that included a fair amount of demo kit
from projects in the South Lab.  We'll try and set up some way to
support two events in March out of the kit sent up to manchester and
people based up there, but I can't make any promises now.

However, here's a thought- this year we could perhaps attend the Maker
Faire not as BBC RD, but as BBC Backstage instead, and in that
capacity it would be perfectly accpetable in principle to have the
demos built and stands manned  (sorry can't find a gender non specific
equivalent term) by members of the Backstage community.  I can already
see a few headaches (insurance, risk assesment etc.) but I'm sure, if
we can come up with a decent plan we could work these through.

Anyone fancy it?

ant

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote:
 Not sure, maybe. Its not in the middle of the move.


 Secret[] Private[x] Public[]

 Ian Forrester
 Senior Backstage Producer

 BBC RD North Lab,
 1st Floor Office, OB Base,
 New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road,
 Manchester, M60 1SJ
 -Original Message-
 From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Tim Dobson
 Sent: 17 November 2009 09:02
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: [backstage] [Fwd: Maker Faire Newcastle 2010]

 Will the Beeb be making an appearance again at Maker Faire asa you guys did 
 last year? (see RD TV ep1) As it's in the middle of The Move(tm), is that 
 likely to make it difficult/unlikely this year?

  Original Message 
 Subject: [uk-hackspaces] [Fwd: Maker Faire Newcastle 2010]
 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:26:46 +
 From: Adrian McEwen adr...@mcqn.net
 Reply-To: uk-hackspa...@googlegroups.com
 To: uk-hackspa...@googlegroups.com


 The first UK Maker Faire was a great weekend earlier in the year (I wrote a 
 bit about it on my blog [1]), and they've just announced the dates for the 
 next one. There's also a link in the announcement email to the sign-up page 
 for any new makers who want to submit a proposal to show things off.

 Hopefully see you all in Newcastle in March :-)

 Adrian.

 [1] http://www.mcqn.net/mcfilter/archives/computers/maker_faire_uk.html

  Original Message 
 Subject:        Maker Faire Newcastle 2010
 Date:   Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:26:25 -
 From:   MakerFaire makerfa...@oreilly.co.uk
 To:     makerfa...@oreilly.co.uk



 *Maker Faire Newcastle 2010*

 * *

 Dear Makers

 We’re delighted to confirm we’ve secured sponsorship to run another Faire to 
 coincide with Newcastle Science Fest next March. The dates have been 
 confirmed for the weekend of 13^th and 14^th March which will coincide with 
 the opening weekend of the ten day Science Festival.

 We’ve learned a lot from running our inaugural Faire in March and we’ll be 
 making improvements for both the exhibitors and the attendees. The principal 
 change is to incorporate the Makers indoors within the Centre for Life 
 (roughly where the Robo- Challenge was located). We’ll still have the Marquee 
 in the Square but that will be used for larger exhibits and for Makers that 
 may require more space or have demands beyond the conventional space 
 requirements.

 We’d ask you to confirm your interest in attending next year’s Faire and 
 submit a brief proposal of the project you’d like to bring to the Faire.
 This should be submitted by replying to this email no later than Friday 11^th 
 December. We’ll then be considering all proposals from past exhibitors and 
 potential new Makers and confirm to