RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-16 Thread Christopher Woods
> Excellently put.

What made me more sad was that I felt I needed to state the obvious :( I
wish I could be a fly on the wall in a meeting between the Beeb and
controlling rightsholders / contract negotiators for the current iPlayer
programming. There must be some serious long-term powerplays going on,
combined with fear of the unknown (just like Warner pulling out of
ad-supported music citing lack of faith) - but TV's always survived better
than music because (I think) it's not been entirely commoditised just yet.
The old Powers That Be are in danger of outmoding themselves though with
their pseudo-scarcity approach...

... As I say this, I may or may not be torrenting Episode 8 of 24 S08. Why
must I wait a week to see it?! By that point, all the buzz around each
episode has died down, my friends in the States are already onto the next
week's episode and if I go on any of the forums all I'll get is spoilers
completely ruining the whole thing for me. Ridiculous.

That said, I often watch the Colbert Report - including the pre- and
post-roll adverts - on the official web site. They're not very annoying,
they work with the way the show's divvied up (pre-existing ad breaks, just
shorter ads for online streams) and I like to think it's helping them
finance the show. However, to do this I have to use a US proxy as DUE TO
RIGHTS ISSUES the content is not directly available to UK viewers (and FX,
the UK channel which shows TCR, has no on-demand streaming on their own site
for its UK viewers).

Spot the fail. Who's losing out here? (given the many alternative means to
acquire newteevee, it's likely not the tech-savvy viewers)

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Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-16 Thread Richard P Edwards


On 16 Feb 2010, at 22:34, Mo McRoberts wrote:

> 
> On 16-Feb-2010, at 16:59, Christopher Woods wrote:
> 
>> Simile time: trying to control, or fighting against, cross-platform
>> consumption, usage on previously unconceived platforms and/or unexpected
>> adaption of the service to new forms of consumption is like swimming against
>> a rip tide. Either it's available everywhere legally and someplaces illegaly
>> or nowhere legally and everywhere illegally. It's the rightsholders' choice.
> 
> Excellently put.
> 
> (There is a third option, but it’s unfashionable to suggest it ;)
> 
> M.

Is Auntie becoming schizophrenic?
Rich

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Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-16 Thread Mo McRoberts

On 16-Feb-2010, at 16:59, Christopher Woods wrote:

> Simile time: trying to control, or fighting against, cross-platform
> consumption, usage on previously unconceived platforms and/or unexpected
> adaption of the service to new forms of consumption is like swimming against
> a rip tide. Either it's available everywhere legally and someplaces illegaly
> or nowhere legally and everywhere illegally. It's the rightsholders' choice.

Excellently put.

(There is a third option, but it’s unfashionable to suggest it ;)

M.
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RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-16 Thread Christopher Woods
> > Generally if you take the p*** I'll get shouted at and I'll ask you 
> > nicely to close the service/script/prototype :) of course 
> breaking the 
> > backstage licence will you a heavy knock at the door :)
> 
> Publishing some definitions might help :)

The first rule about the Backstage Licence is that we don't talk about the
Backstage Licence.

In all seriousness, I find it sad that semantics continues to play a far
larger role in all of these discussions/arguments/politics between the BBC
as broadcaster, BBC as service provider, general viewing public and
rightsholders.

Simile time: trying to control, or fighting against, cross-platform
consumption, usage on previously unconceived platforms and/or unexpected
adaption of the service to new forms of consumption is like swimming against
a rip tide. Either it's available everywhere legally and someplaces illegaly
or nowhere legally and everywhere illegally. It's the rightsholders' choice.

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