Re: [backstage] Re: BBC Experimental Website Down?

2010-02-28 Thread Gordon Joly

On 26/02/2010 18:17, Mo McRoberts wrote:

I would place a wild guess that it’s probably being moved from one bit of 
England to another;)

(Anybody feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, it really was a wild, if 
slightly educated, guess!)

M.
   
Ah, but you can see out of your window that the sky is covered with 
Clouds and moving is a mere flick o' the switch away, surely.


Gordo


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[backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-02-28 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd

indefinitely live BBC archive?

my daughter (age 13) asks:

why can't the BBC make some programmes available all the time?

regards

Jonathan

ie there must be a large number of programmes that the BBC creates,  
and owns copyright permissions.
why aren't at least some of these available via search indefinitely,  
aka youtube/bbc

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Re: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-02-28 Thread Gordon Joly

On 28/02/2010 17:38, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:

:

why can't the BBC make some programmes available all the time?

Rights, dear boy.

Gordo

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Re: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-02-28 Thread Glyn Wintle


--- On Sun, 28/2/10, Jonathan Chetwynd j.chetw...@btinternet.com wrote:

 From: Jonathan Chetwynd j.chetw...@btinternet.com
 Subject: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Date: Sunday, 28 February, 2010, 17:38
 indefinitely live BBC archive?
 
 my daughter (age 13) asks:
 
 why can't the BBC make some programmes available all the
 time?
 
 regards
 
 Jonathan
 
 ie there must be a large number of programmes that the BBC
 creates, and owns copyright permissions.
 why aren't at least some of these available via search
 indefinitely, aka youtube/bbc

If you want any easy start the BBC could make BBC Parliament content available 
permanently.


  

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Re: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-02-28 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 17:54, Glyn Wintle glynwin...@yahoo.com wrote:

 If you want any easy start the BBC could make BBC Parliament content 
 available permanently.

I’m actually not sure why anybody _owns_ that content in the first
place. It should be that PARBUL is merely contracted to produce and
broadcast it, with the production funded by the taxpayer. As it
stands, the major broadcasters have a collective monopoly over the
availability of parliamentary proceedings (as nobody else would now be
able to install *their* own cameras).

M.

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RE: [backstage] A quick Dolby E question

2010-02-28 Thread Christopher Woods
 

 -Original Message-
 From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Kieran Kunhya
 Sent: 27 February 2010 02:25
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: [backstage] A quick Dolby E question
 
 A teeny bit off-topic but I'm sure there are people on the 
 list that know the answer.
 
 Does 24-bit Dolby E actually exist? If so what produces it?


SurCode's stuff can produce 24-bit Dolby-E iirc. Also AJA cards can work
with Dolby-E but you have to do it right to preserve the metadata.
Telestream's FlipFactory (a bit like also allows decoding and encoding of
Dolby-E if you configure your 'factory' correctly, PDF at [1].
Wikipedia:Dolby_E also mentions that SoundCode from Neyrinck supports the
format. [2]

(FWIW I don't work with it myself, just powergoogling + asking some video
editing friends)

[1] http://www.telestream.net/pdfs/app-notes/app_FF_DolbyE.pdf#9 
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_E

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Re: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-02-28 Thread Fearghas McKay


On 28 Feb 2010, at 17:53, Gordon Joly wrote:


why can't the BBC make some programmes available all the time?

Rights, dear boy.


and Residuals in particular - Equity  MU contracts ensure that every  
time a drama is rescreened the performers get another set of smaller  
fees.


UKGold when it was free based its whole business model on a loophole  
in the contracts that didn't envisage satellite TV, so had no  
requirement to pay residuals to performers so it was very cheap TV to  
broadcast. Whilst some of the performers benefited from fresh  
exposure, they would also have liked to be paid for it rather than  
relying on it bringing in new work because they were back in the  
public eye.


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RE: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-02-28 Thread Christopher Woods
  why can't the BBC make some programmes available all the time?
 Rights, dear boy.

And kids, in their limitless quest to just get what they want now, care not
one bit for that most wonderfully complex of one-word answers.

Then again, most regular people don't care either. ;)

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Re: [backstage] New prototype

2010-02-28 Thread Tim Coysh
Hello Again,

I'm not sure if reviving this mail is the right thing to do, but I am doing
it anyway.

I realized this prototype a few weeks ago now - and I wasn't happy with it
at all, especially with the design and the lack of features.

I almost immediately decided to re-design and re-code the site to offer more
information and features in an easier design, I have done this.

http://www.radio1now.co.cc is the site in case you can't be bothered to read
the top post again. The new features should be easily recognizable, you can
scrobble the artists, search youtube and google plus much more.

I sort of rushed this release, because I wanted to get it out of the way
before Monday, so I haven't competly bug tested it. If you do notice any
bugs - or see anything you would like changed, tell me and will be more than
happy to!

Thanks,

Tim

On 2 February 2010 00:16, Fearghas McKay fm-li...@st-kilda.org wrote:


 On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:54, Tim Coysh wrote:

  I would love to hear your ideas, I think that Ian's ideas could be a great
 help.


 Being able to bookmark artists would be useful IMO.

 Of course then you would need some registration stuff - but that is what
 OpenID/Federated Login lets you do without owning the hassle of personal
 data :-)

 Works fine under Safari on OSX 10.5.8.

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Re: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-02-28 Thread Jonathan Tweed
Whilst, as already mentioned, rights agreements stop us from doing this for 
most programmes, there are cases where we can do it. It's even part of the 
service licence for Radio 4.

From 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/regulatory_framework/service_licences/radio/2008/radio4_Apr08.pdf:

offer broadcast radio content for download for an unlimited period of time 
after broadcast, although this must not include unabridged readings of 
published works nor full track commercial music nor classical music

Which allows us to do lovely things such as this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/in-our-time/archive/

Cheers
Jonathan


On 28 Feb 2010, at 17:38, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:

 indefinitely live BBC archive?
 
 my daughter (age 13) asks:
 
 why can't the BBC make some programmes available all the time?
 
 regards
 
 Jonathan
 
 ie there must be a large number of programmes that the BBC creates, and owns 
 copyright permissions.
 why aren't at least some of these available via search indefinitely, aka 
 youtube/bbc
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Re: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-02-28 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd

Jonathan,

that's excellent, but there must be more...

and where is the central search facility?

best

~:

On 28 Feb 2010, at 20:37, Jonathan Tweed wrote:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/in-our-time/archive/




Re: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-02-28 Thread Tim Dobson

Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:

indefinitely live BBC archive?

my daughter (age 13) asks:

why can't the BBC make some programmes available all the time?

regards

Jonathan

ie there must be a large number of programmes that the BBC creates, and 
owns copyright permissions.
why aren't at least some of these available via search indefinitely, aka 
youtube/bbc


This thread reminds me of this:

http://www.blog.tdobson.net/node/173

I'm glad there are people out there, like your daughter, who ask these 
questions.


Tim
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Re: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-02-28 Thread Jonathan Tweed
On 28 Feb 2010, at 22:24, Ian Stirling wrote:

 But the index is freely available.
 Just past the tiger, down the flight of stairs (bring your own torch) all 
 nicely card-indexed.

Heh. I wish that wasn't as accurate as it is.

Much of the BBC's Archive (the documents and photos, but thankfully not the 
programmes) I meticulously and completely indexed on cards. What's most 
interesting is that as you get more recent they get harder to read, as they 
started out typed but are now handwritten. People don't have typewriters on 
their desks anymore...

Cheers
Jonathan
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Re: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-02-28 Thread Jonathan Tweed
Hi Jonathan

As more of our archive content gets migrated into /programmes, it will start to 
appear in various places and central indexes throughout the site, including 
search results.

However, that's a mammoth task and one we've only just begun. Other archive 
content you may have already spotted includes many of the clips on Wildlife 
Finder and Solar System. There are also also some archive comedy clips 
beginning to appear on the Comedy site.

Sorry I can't give a better answer than that, but we're very much at the start 
of this one, taking our first baby steps.

Cheers
Jonathan

On 28 Feb 2010, at 21:36, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:

 Jonathan,
 
 that's excellent, but there must be more...
 
 and where is the central search facility?
 
 best
 
 ~:
 
 On 28 Feb 2010, at 20:37, Jonathan Tweed wrote:
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/in-our-time/archive/
 


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