[backstage] Does the BBC ever respond to web site feedback?

2010-06-03 Thread David Woodhouse
The news page at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10225181.stm
currently lists 'JP Morgan gets record �33m fine' under 'Top Business
Stories' on the right-hand side, just above the 'Most Popular...'.

Do not adjust your set; that's really an unprintable character before
the '33m', where there should be a pound sign.

This happens because although the page itself is in the contemporary
UTF-8 character set, the title in question is in some obsolete legacy
8-bit character set, and the byte 0xA3 which it _thinks_ should mean a
pound sign is actually an invalid byte sequence.

I reported this a few weeks ago, on a different story. It never got
fixed, and the problem keeps happening.

I also reported that Akamai was refusing to serve iPlayer content to my
home 90.155.92.192/26 range of IP addresses, although it works fine on
the 81.187.2.160/28 range that I really ought to have given back to the
ISP but never quite did. (Seen with the real flash player, of course.).
Nobody ever got back to me about that, either.

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Re: [backstage] Does the BBC ever respond to web site feedback?

2010-06-03 Thread Reverend Graeme Mulvaney
File a 'complaint' - they seem to elicit a faster response.

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:23 PM, David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote:

 The news page at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10225181.stm
 currently lists 'JP Morgan gets record �33m fine' under 'Top Business
 Stories' on the right-hand side, just above the 'Most Popular...'.

 Do not adjust your set; that's really an unprintable character before
 the '33m', where there should be a pound sign.

 This happens because although the page itself is in the contemporary
 UTF-8 character set, the title in question is in some obsolete legacy
 8-bit character set, and the byte 0xA3 which it _thinks_ should mean a
 pound sign is actually an invalid byte sequence.

 I reported this a few weeks ago, on a different story. It never got
 fixed, and the problem keeps happening.

 I also reported that Akamai was refusing to serve iPlayer content to my
 home 90.155.92.192/26 range of IP addresses, although it works fine on
 the 81.187.2.160/28 range that I really ought to have given back to the
 ISP but never quite did. (Seen with the real flash player, of course.).
 Nobody ever got back to me about that, either.

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Re: [backstage] Does the BBC ever respond to web site feedback?

2010-06-03 Thread Gordon Joly

On 03/06/2010 15:23, David Woodhouse wrote:

I reported this a few weeks ago, on a different story. It never got
fixed, and the problem keeps happening.
   

Try this


http://www.flickr.com/photos/loopzilla/4665237563/


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Re: [backstage] Does the BBC ever respond to web site feedback?

2010-06-03 Thread Kieran Kunhya
  I reported this a few weeks ago, on a different story.
 It never got
  fixed, and the problem keeps happening.
     

Forward your complaint to the Daily Mail ;)

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Re: [backstage] Does the BBC ever respond to web site feedback?

2010-06-03 Thread Alex Mace
and claim that they were put there by gay asylum seekers who got into by BBC 
through the back door...

On 3 Jun 2010, at 17:03, Kieran Kunhya wrote:

 I reported this a few weeks ago, on a different story.
 It never got
 fixed, and the problem keeps happening.
 
 
 Forward your complaint to the Daily Mail ;)
 
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Re: [backstage] Does the BBC ever respond to web site feedback?

2010-06-03 Thread Stephen Jolly

On 3 Jun 2010, at 15:23, David Woodhouse wrote:
 I reported this a few weeks ago, on a different story. It never got
 fixed, and the problem keeps happening.

Generally when I've reported stuff it's been fixed.  Occasionally, I've even 
received a nice thank-you email from the sub who's corrected the error. :-)

S


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Re: [backstage] Does the BBC ever respond to web site feedback?

2010-06-03 Thread Anthony McKale
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/homepage/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/handle.shtml#reply

Basically the bbc has to reply within 10 days I think, otherwise you can
escalate it,

Had quite a few technical one's in my time all of which had to and were
responded to,

Often something can be done, for incidence if there's a bug or error, or if
some of the accessibility for a page is bust,

Ant


On 03/06/2010 17:10, Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org wrote:

 
 On 3 Jun 2010, at 15:23, David Woodhouse wrote:
 I reported this a few weeks ago, on a different story. It never got
 fixed, and the problem keeps happening.
 
 Generally when I've reported stuff it's been fixed.  Occasionally, I've even
 received a nice thank-you email from the sub who's corrected the error. :-)
 
 S
 
 
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Re: [backstage] Does the BBC ever respond to web site feedback?

2010-06-03 Thread Brian Butterworth
ooh er missus.

But the DMGT own Teletext who run the Gay Rabbit channel...

On 3 June 2010 17:07, Alex Mace a...@hollytree.co.uk wrote:

 and claim that they were put there by gay asylum seekers who got into by
 BBC through the back door...

 On 3 Jun 2010, at 17:03, Kieran Kunhya wrote:

  I reported this a few weeks ago, on a different story.
  It never got
  fixed, and the problem keeps happening.
 
 
  Forward your complaint to the Daily Mail ;)
 
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Re: [backstage] Developer: Parsing AOD xml, and which PID is permanent?

2010-06-03 Thread Paul Webster
A comment regarding the WMA content ... watch out with the media link URL.
It only works if the listener is in UK (BBC does geo lookup).
The trick is to use http://www.bbc.co.uk/listen/again/vpid.asx
Since this is supposed to do the same geo lookup and then dynamically generate 
an ASX with the right link.
There are hopes to make this use the PID so that it can be pretty static (eg 
asking for Farming Today and the backend always returning the most recent.
I don't know if a vpid is re-used for a much later repeat.

(I know this through working with Alan Ogilvie when trying to get the WMA 
content working for Reciva radios)

Paul 


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On 3 Jun 2010, at 18:59, Steve Clarke mailinglis...@trumpton.org.uk wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I am writing an alert application, which looks out for specific radio 
 programs, 
 and sends an alert (email / SMS, etc) when a program that meets specific 
 criteria has been spotted on the audio on demand side of the BBC.
 
 
 I have three questions:
 
 1) I am downloading the aod xml file, e.g. 
 
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/bbc7.xml
 
 There appear to be several ways to get similar information, and each seems to
 be formatted differently, however, this is the one that seems to have 
 everything I need.
 
 QUESTION: Is this feed something that is around to stay?
 
 
 
 2) In the aod XML file, there are records formatted in the following way: 
 
  entry pid=p0081pm6
keykey data/key
pidb007k1sk/pid
servicebbc_7/service
titletitle, series, episode/title
synopsisoverview/synopsis
availability start= ... /
broadcast pid=p0081l0f version_pid=b006sqhl ... /
parents
  parent pid=b00s8fp6 type=Seriesseries no./parent
  parent pid=b00f9sql type=Brandbrand/parent
/parents
links
  link details
/links
  /entry
 
 I'd like to know if I've sent the text message / email out before, and before 
 could be 6 months ago, when the program was last aired.  I note that the 
 version_pid is the same number as used in the link url.
 
 QUESTION: My question is which of the PIDs will _always_ be associated with 
 this specific episode of this specific program?  
 
 
 
 3) Finally, a question, which is more of a comment.
 
 The mediaselector xml file seems to offer the WMA stream at 128kbps, but my 
 internet radio only every plays it at 96kbps, and infact, I've seen posts 
 stating that it is a 96kbps stream.  
 
 QUESTION: Is the 128kbps for wma streams in the mediaselector.xml file a typo?
 
 
 
 many thanks and best regards,
 
 Steve Clarke
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Re: [backstage] Does the BBC ever respond to web site feedback?

2010-06-03 Thread Nick Morrott
On 3 June 2010 19:34, John O'Donovan john.odono...@bbc.co.uk wrote:

 Why the pound sign issue? We are updating our news CMS and in some rare
 cases older content in ISO-8859-1 is being pulled into UTF-8 pages and
 we are seeing these character issues. We are ironing them out and this
 will go away soon.

The issue is apparent with brand new stories (the Top Business
Stories section containing the JPM and Crozier links currently
contain invalid UTF-8). I could understand why older Latin-1-encoded
story content could cause a problem if they are not converted to UTF-8
before being blindly entered into a new UTF-8-based CMS, but why are
new stories/links not being handled correctly?

Cheers,
Nick
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