Re: [backstage] BBC Archiver

2010-07-16 Thread Richard Jones
I like it, does what it says... So there's a +1 from me too.


On 15/07/2010 20:32, Davy Mitchell daftspan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Glad someone likes it :-)
 
 People have being saying to me it looks unfinished, is cluttered, slow to
 navigate, 'pants', colours don't contrast well, 'pretty bad'.
 
 Just passing on feedback - don't shoot me... I'll give it time...
 
 Maybe I am holding it wrong...
 
 Cheers,
 Davy Mitchell

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Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-16 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:07, Nick Reynolds-FMT
nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote:
 In the case of Erik's post that you mention all we are actually doing is
 cross posting to it on the Internet blog. So the editor of the About The
 BBC blog has editorial responsibility for it because it was published
 first there.

 What happens in practice in general is;

 - sometimes we (i.e. Paul and I) have an idea for a blog post and we ask
 someone to write it - we might help them by suggesting bullet points but
 we don't write it for them

 - the communications team also sometimes send us ideas for posts and in
 some cases finished posts - I assume they similarly help people write
 posts

 But I would certainly not write a finished post for someone like Erik.
 Senior executives have different attitudes - Anthony Rose for example
 writes all his posts in his own individual style. Others need or like
 more of a steer.

 All this is in a context where we have editorial control and can ask for
 a post to be changed and even have the right to refuse it - although I
 can only recall one occasion where we have.

That's interesting stuff (genuinely!). you should probably do a blog
post on it one day. it's good to know what the process is, in general
(even if it varies).

on the topic of 'things which it might be worth doing blog posts about': P4A.

 Again I disagree that I've been fed misleading information (and I'd like
 to know in what way) - I suspect that this is again about interpretation
 of information, which is another thing entirely.

I'll respond to this bit properly when I've had a proper think about
it -- interpretation comes down to it to an extent (i.e., how things
are most likely to be interpreted by those reading stuff vs. how
things are most likely to be interpreted by those with prior
knowledge), but there're other things, too. predominantly I was struck
by errors of omission, though (questions which don't really get
answered, though not for the want of trying on your part, glossing
over details which might not seem important but are). it's very
difficult to know how much of this is deliberate and how much is a
product of circumstance or just things being missed -- in either case,
though, it comes across poorly and doesn't help the BBC's case any. as
I say, though, I'll follow up on this later.

M.
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RE: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-16 Thread Nick Reynolds-FMT
glossing over details which might not seem important but are 

What does or does not seem important is a matter of interpretation and
is in the eye of the beholder...

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Subject: Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:07, Nick Reynolds-FMT
nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote:
 In the case of Erik's post that you mention all we are actually doing 
 is cross posting to it on the Internet blog. So the editor of the 
 About The BBC blog has editorial responsibility for it because it was 
 published first there.

 What happens in practice in general is;

 - sometimes we (i.e. Paul and I) have an idea for a blog post and we 
 ask someone to write it - we might help them by suggesting bullet 
 points but we don't write it for them

 - the communications team also sometimes send us ideas for posts and 
 in some cases finished posts - I assume they similarly help people 
 write posts

 But I would certainly not write a finished post for someone like Erik.
 Senior executives have different attitudes - Anthony Rose for example 
 writes all his posts in his own individual style. Others need or like 
 more of a steer.

 All this is in a context where we have editorial control and can ask 
 for a post to be changed and even have the right to refuse it - 
 although I can only recall one occasion where we have.

That's interesting stuff (genuinely!). you should probably do a blog
post on it one day. it's good to know what the process is, in general
(even if it varies).

on the topic of 'things which it might be worth doing blog posts about':
P4A.

 Again I disagree that I've been fed misleading information (and I'd 
 like to know in what way) - I suspect that this is again about 
 interpretation of information, which is another thing entirely.

I'll respond to this bit properly when I've had a proper think about it
-- interpretation comes down to it to an extent (i.e., how things are
most likely to be interpreted by those reading stuff vs. how things are
most likely to be interpreted by those with prior knowledge), but
there're other things, too. predominantly I was struck by errors of
omission, though (questions which don't really get answered, though not
for the want of trying on your part, glossing over details which might
not seem important but are). it's very difficult to know how much of
this is deliberate and how much is a product of circumstance or just
things being missed -- in either case, though, it comes across poorly
and doesn't help the BBC's case any. as I say, though, I'll follow up on
this later.

M.
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Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-16 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 19:27, Nick Reynolds-FMT
nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote:
 glossing over details which might not seem important but are

 What does or does not seem important is a matter of interpretation and
 is in the eye of the beholder...

Not really...

What does this mean for consumers in real terms? is pretty important
-- that's why I wrote the guardian article (can't think of a better
way to refer to that piece, sorry).

I'm not sure that's particularly subjective, given that most of the
questions being posed were along those lines, most of the
misunderstandings (which came about as a result of it not being
clearly explained _prior_ to anybody else having a stab at it) were in
that area, and there was still stuff that -- unless you already knew
the technology well -- was completely non-obvious (for example,
compatibility with TVs which didn't support HDCP).

The *big* thing people wanted to know from the outset was how it would
affect them -- whether they'd have to replace bits of their equipment,
whether they'd even want to, what things would stop working and what
things wouldn't -- most people couldn't care less if Tom Watson or
Cory Doctorow was wrong, because even being wrong they were saying
more that was substantive and along the right lines than the BBC were.
People didn't really *want* Oh, Tom got it all wrong in his blog
post, they wanted Tom got it all wrong in his blog post, we're sorry
we didn't post this sooner, these are the things you need to know.

M.
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RE: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-16 Thread Christopher Woods
 What does this mean for consumers in real terms? is pretty important
 -- that's why I wrote the guardian article (can't think of 
 a better way to refer to that piece, sorry).

The Grauniad recital =D

I'll get my coat

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