RE: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?

2008-12-08 Thread Robert Binney
This just sounds like a classic BBC cock-up/lack of co-ordination to me.
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 08 December 2008 11:42
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Subject: Re: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?


Interesting point of debate. 


This logic says that it is possible only to have an opinion if you speak the 
language of the country that you have a though about.


This is just silly, I can like a part of Wales without speaking Welsh!


It may be impolite to talk about people abroad in English without starting a 
separate topic in their own language, but it would be plain daft to say any 
more.


I mean, I have an opinion about the ταραχές στην Ελλάδα, but I can't see why 
the BBC should have a debate about them.


2008/12/8 Dominic Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Good morning list,

I don't suppose many of you are aware of this, but this morning the BBC
News Online website is being accused of bias by the Venezuelan
Ambassador to the UK for a very (IMHO) interesting reason.

For those who can read Spanish, the details of the accusation are on the
Venezuelan state TV website:
 http://www.vtv.gob.ve/articulos/reportajes/12217 
http://www.vtv.gob.ve/articulos/reportajes/12217 

For those who can't, the brief summary is this: The (English language)
BBC News site currently has a 'have your say' section inviting comments
about Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez's performance in the ten years of
his Presidency at
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/ukfs_news/hi/newsid_776/newsid_7765400/7765415.stm
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/ukfs_news/hi/newsid_776/newsid_7765400/7765415.stm
 .
There is currently no equivalent page on the BBCMundo.com (Spanish
language) website.  For the avoidance of any doubt, I will clarify that
Spanish is the official language of Venezuela.

Given that Venezuela has a population of about 60% below the poverty
line and the majority of Chávez's supporters are known to be from the
poorer sectors of the society (who are unlikely to have had sufficient
education to speak English), the BBC stands accused of asking for
comment in English only in order to deliberately manipulate the results
to ensure that Chávez is discussed in predominantly adverse terms.

Whilst I am pretty certain this is more likely to be a lack of
communication between different parts of the BBC, rather than deliberate
bias, I can't help but feel that the Ambassador might have a valid point
here.  I have suspected for a while that 'linguistic discrimination' is
an under-recognised topic amongst website designers of websites with an
international target audience who permit user feedback.  The danger for
the BBC, of course, is that this sort of debate could undermine the
excellent work that has gone in to the development of BBCMundo.com and
BBC Mundo Radio in Latin America in recent years.

Without wishing to turn this into a political debate on this list, I
wonder what you think? How much discussion goes into deciding which
pages should invite comment and is the risk of 'linguistic
discrimination' considered in conjunction with the World Service's
different language services? Would it not be better, for example, for
the invitation for comments to be on the Spanish site and for the
comments to then be translated for the English site? Is there some form
of software platform linking the different bits of the BBC and language
services which allows for comments to be 'shipped' in translation
between different departments? Or perhaps the comments should be
displayed on the English page with a 'health warning' to warn that a
full range of opinions might not be expressed due to the fact that it is
only an English page?

Best wishes,

Dominic.
(I do not work for the BBC)



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[backstage] IMDA metadata

2009-03-05 Thread Robert Binney

Hi

Just wondered if any of you guys out there have had any truck with the
Internet Media Device Alliance (http://www.imdalliance.org/) and where
we are with metadata in the world of Internet Radio?

Best wishes

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RE: [backstage] Free as in 'Freedom'

2009-10-09 Thread Robert Binney

This is so built into the economic model that it would surely be nearly
impossible to separate off the cost and the benefit. 

Abolistion is no doubt an impossibly radical step, but subtle
modifications could no doubt have disproportionate impacts across
industry  commerce.

Ecomomies should enjoy change. 


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Broadcast Support and Projects, FMT

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[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Nick Reynolds-FMT
Sent: 09 October 2009 12:24
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Subject: RE: [backstage] Free as in 'Freedom'

But the particular law of copyright, imposes more costs than benefits
and should be abolished.

I'd like to see some hard numbers/evidence for this statement. How much
are the costs? In dollars and pounds? How much is the benefit? Not
statements of principle, but numbers.

My opinion is that is you had hard numbers, the case for abolishing
copyright would not stack up, and that copyright creates more benefits
than it costs - in numbers.

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[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of David Tomlinson
Sent: 09 October 2009 12:12
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Free as in 'Freedom'

Deirdre Harvey wrote:
  
  
 Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote:
 Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose

 Freedom is another word for self determination.
 Incarceration, the opposite of Freedom is no control.
 
 Isn't your argument that control is bad and that people must 
 relinquish control for your benefit?
 
No my argument is some controls are social necessary, we call them laws.
But the particular law of copyright, imposes more costs than benefits
and should be abolished.

We may need to retain control over personal images, and respect peoples
privacy. If we need new laws to maintain these controls we should pass
them.

See the link Michael Smethurst supplied in his email.

The default should be Freedom.
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RE: [backstage] A familiar face...

2011-05-18 Thread Robert Binney
I have been told that no sailors listen to the Shipping Forecast - can
this be true?
 


Best wishes 


Robert Binney 



From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 11 April 2011 05:43
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Subject: [backstage] A familiar face...



There's a rather familiar face on the front page of the paper version of
Media Guardian this morning, just below Rupert and Rebekah. 

B