RE: [backstage] Ping...
Exactly, someone checks and it bounces :) -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Ant Miller Sent: 03 June 2011 16:21 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Ping... And to think people ask me why this list has gone quiet.. -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Ben Weiner Sent: 03 June 2011 14:08 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Ping... On 3 Jun 2011, at 13:53, Brian Butterworth wrote: On 3 June 2011 08:54, Ben Weiner b...@readingtype.org.uk wrote: On 3 Jun 2011, at 08:00, Richard Lockwood wrote: I had got used to Chrome doing my spell checking (but no grammar check as yet...) and I've just got myself an Asus Transfomer with a fresh helping of Android Ice Cream Sandwich and .. no spell checker in the browser. The check's in the post. Cheque, surely? Do you need a spell chequer? A post-chequer, or better an ex-chequer, would fit the bill. Perhaps I need to check my Czech cheque? A small change may be needed. Ben -- Ben Weiner | http://readingtype.org.uk/about/contact.html +44 (0) 7780 608 659 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] A familiar face...
If I'm out on the water I'd listen via the coastguard MSI bulletin on VHF, rather than tune in to Radio 4. But it's still the shipping forecast either way. -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Scott Sent: 18 May 2011 15:00 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] A familiar face... Every boat I've be a crew on always tunes in. Although the 1979 Fastnet Race is often mentioned... Tom On 18/05/2011 14:35, Dirk-Willem van Gulik di...@webweaving.org wrote: On 18 May 2011, at 14:23, Robert Binney wrote: I have been told that no sailors listen to the Shipping Forecast - can this be true? Well - if you have the money (and enough battery power and ample of pricey thermal paper) - you get it off your navtex(1) or from the met-office feed of immarsat(2). But I've found myself in a situation more than once where knowing that you could be having _reliable_ warnings with just a simple battery radio independent of it all was very reassuring. Dw. 1: http://www.frisnit.com/cgi-bin/navtex/view.cgi?NAVAREA=1action=browse TYPE=24 H - the MET ones. 2: http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/shtml/UKMHSFAT - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Problems with iPlayer video - how to report?
Chris, You can find links to service status and a contact form from here: http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/using_bbc_iplayer/tech_report Comments about World Service content do get through to me, so filling in the form does work. Cheers, -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Future Media Technology * 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * bbcworldservice.com -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 20 February 2011 23:35 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Problems with iPlayer video - how to report? Watching the AV Referendum Speeches there's a LOT of picture sound breakup, looks like a bad OB sat feed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00zb198/House_of_Commons _AV_Referendum _Speeches/ To whom should this problem be reported and what's the best way to report technical problems in future if/when this backstage list gets closed? Cheers Chris - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Problems with iPlayer video - how to report?
Chris, Can't speak for my colleagues elsewhere in radio, but WS doesn't transcode between codecs anywhere in our longform workflow and never has done. Cheers, -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Future Media Technology * 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * bbcworldservice.com -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 21 February 2011 17:24 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Problems with iPlayer video - how to report? Chris, You can find links to service status and a contact form from here: http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/using_bbc_iplayer/t ech_report Comments about World Service content do get through to me, so filling in the form does work. Super : Whilst I have your eye as such, are the MP3 versions of iPlayer radio content still transcodes from AAC or are they encoded from the source feed in parallel? I always noticed in the past whenever I used get_iplayer to grab some radio shows for my DAP the MP3 versions (via flashaudio etc) were noticeably poorer quality than the original raw AACs; warbly, burbly sound, what sounded like transcoding artefacts and distortion of the stereo imaging. Has the MP3 encoding workflow for radio programmes changed at all since last year? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium
From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden Sent: 14 September 2010 09:42 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium It should work. But not everything will work. The EPG probably won't, nor the Now and Next. You're unlikely to get traditional teletext. And if you're German, you won't get the menus in German. As a German would you buy a UK set top box? As a Brit would you buy a German set top box? I think you might be surprised Andrew how well DVB kit works across Europe from the larger manufacturers. The LCD screens we have in the office are an EU wide model that asks you for the country and language first time you switch them on, and because they are an EU wide design give us things like integrated DVB-C which we need - but wouldn't normally be available on a UK specific model. Teletext works, Subtitles work, Logical channel numbers work, Now and Next works for the current mux - and probably would work across all channels if I could ever get my head round the EIT correlator on the headend. Red button even works from the DVB-C tuner, as long as we have not done any SID/PID remapping when remuxing the services for the DVB ringmain. Admittedly most of this came as a surprise to me too, they were purchased because they were the cheepest 1080 panels in the catalogue - the feature set was a welcome bonus. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * bbcworldservice.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
I couldn't tell you what the official BBC position is on IPv6. But it has been an ongoing agenda item for some months at the Online Operations meetings, and we are well aware that we do have to adopt it sooner rather than later. RD have been doing some work in the area, and there was (and may still be) a frontend server for the news site accessible over pure IPv6. How we transition the public facing infrastructure is still up for discussion (using some kind of proxy, a pure implementation or some hybrid of the two) as we have well over a decade of legacy to consider, which has the potential to behave in all sorts of new and exciting ways when exposed to IP addresses greater than 32 bits long :) -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * bbcworldservice.com -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts Sent: 13 August 2010 09:37 To: BBC Backstage Mailing List Subject: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire Happy Friday 13th Everybody! This month, I'm running a short questionnaire (should only take a couple of minutes to complete) on IPv6 planning and adoption in the UK. Not the most exciting of topics, I realise, but *quite* important in some respects. Some of you will undoubtedly have seen this mentioned elsewhere, and may even have filled it in (if so, thanks!). For the rest, though, I'd appreciate it if you could take a couple of minutes to have a look. Some answers from within bits of the BBC would be grand if it's at all possible, but I know it's relevant to a number of others on the list, too. You can find the questionnaire at: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDc3MzV3ZjVKd UZuY2NkQm1BakdJQkE6MQ I'll be closing it on Friday 3rd September in time for UKNOF17 (http://uknof.org.uk/) -- I'm not presenting the results, but I will be publishing the stats in time for the meeting on the offchance that there are related sessions on the agenda. Cheers! M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management
On 16 Jun 2010, at 08:15, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: On 16 June 2010 07:54, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: On 16 Jun 2010, at 07:11, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: It's only on the EPG anyway, even Windows Media Centre will bypass it, as it uses the DigiGuide one. Or record the whole audio-video stream and use an edit package. Or pause/record the old fashioned way. Deviation from the main topic - sorry - but I don't think WMC uses DigiGuide data (at least - it never used to). BDS was (and still is?) the original supplier to MS. Oh, it was Microsoft who told me that they sourced all their data from there. Either way, it doesn't use the broadcast guide, the one with the protection. WMC started using the broadcast EPG with Freeview when the Vista 'TV pack' update came out. Using a live EPG was a requirement of getting the Freeview+ certification IIRC. On DSAT I'm fairly sure it follows the EIT now/next info but does not populate the full guide with it, as it usually records programmes correctly that have started late/overrun due to sports events. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * bbcworldservice.com http://bbcworldservice.com/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?
Christopher Woods wrote: I've noticed that for some reason blend deinterlacing is still being used on all BBC Video footage (iPlayer, inline footage on News/Sports sites, etc). Can you confirm if you are seeing the same problem on World Service footage? You can reach our two TV channels at bbcarabic.com/tv and bbcpersian.com/tv, although Persian does not come on air until early afternoon. Can you also compare them against clips elsewhere on the Arabic/Persian sites? They are ingested using a different workflow and so are processed in a different way. So, in the absence of any known point of contact for the bods in charge of digitisation across the BBC's online platforms, can someone advise me as to whom I should be addressing my angry letters and suggestions for improvement? ;) The links from http://www.bbc.co.uk/help/about/technical_fault.shtml are probably your best bet. It might take a while for the feedback to work through Capita, but World Service iPlayer feedback does reach my team eventually so I know the forms do work. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
There is a complete list of links in WMA and Real to all of our English output here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/institutional/2009/10/091029_internetr adiomobilelinks.shtml Live streams are also available in Shoutcast/MP3 additionally. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Gordon Joly Sent: 30 November 2009 09:15 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing? FYI http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/realmedia/live/localradio/london.ram Gordo - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?
Brian Butterworth wrote: Once again, Freeview+ is the PVR, Freeview HD is the HD service As an aside, the two types of Freesat receiver we have in the office are marked Freesat HD and Freesat+. But the Freesat+ box does HD as well as PVR. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division 8 http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ + 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?
Brian Butterworth wrote: I thought we were talking about FreeVIEW HD. Freesat is named the same, Freesat+ is the PVR, Freesat HD is the HD service, Freesat+ HD is the PVR with HD We were talking about Freeview, however if it follows the same conventions as Freesat then Freeview+ can mean HD too. The Humax Freesat HD PVR is branded Freesat+, see here: http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/product_stb_satellite_foxsathdr. asp As are the Panasonic HD recorders: http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/Products/DVD+Recorders+%26+Players /DIGA+DVD+Recorders/DMR-XS350/Overview/2359654/index.html I've yet to see a device branded Freesat+ HD, and I've not seen it mentioned in any publicity. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division 8 http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ + 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?
Ant Miller wrote: Freeview and freeview+ (as the DVB-T2 carried HD mux is to be called) will exist in parallel- the number of muxes will drop from 6 to 5, one will go to DVB-t2, the other 4 will up their capacity with a little tweak and reshuffled channels from the flipped mux will be shared around them. And the shuffling starts at the end of this month. Everyone will need to rescan their Freeview STBs and IDTVs on the 30th September. More details here: http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/Resolutions/About-Channels/Retuning/F reeview-national-retune-30-September-2009 ... which also suggests Freeview HD in London from December this year. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes
Frankie, I can't speak for the domestic BBC, but no online World Service content is transcoded from broadcast transport streams. All our radio comes straight out of the audio router at Bush House into our encoders, with a touch of limiting applied to prevent clipping if an SM/self-op goes over PPM 6. Persian and Arabic TV are encoded directly from the uncompressed SDI feeds. So there isn't any potential loss of quality with this approach. We also run strictly to the clock, so automated capture works for us. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Frankie Roberto Sent: 10 September 2009 13:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes Hi all, Apologies if this has been answered before, but is there any reason why the BBC iPlayer seems to only encode programmes from the live broadcast stream, rather than, say, using the actual master tapes/digital files? Sure, it might be simpler, but long-term it'd be great to use the original source. Some reasons for doing so: * occasionally the live broadcast has errors (eg loss of signal, or playout error) * you could trim the programmes more precisely - no more having to skip the last few minutes of previous programme * no more credit squeezes and continuity announcements trailing programmes that you can't actually watch * you could even produce a slightly different edit of a TV show - for example, with dramas like Doctor Who you wouldn't have text at the end saying Next week... Are there any plans for this? Seems like it'd be the obvious next step in improving the user experience of iPlayer... Frankie -- Frankie Roberto Experience Designer, Rattle 0114 2706977 http://www.rattlecentral.com
RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
Andrew, World Service is a bit more complicated: WS English was the first BBC Radio channel to offer a live AAC stream without having to sign up to a beta. This was available from http://bbcworldservice.com/ initially, and more recently from iPlayer after some technical issues with the integration were resolved. BBC Arabic, BBC Russian also offer full time AAC live streams currently. In terms of on-demands: BBC Brasil was the first BBC Radio station to offer AAC on-demand, followed by BBC Vietnamese, BBC Urdu, WS English, BBC Mundo, BBC Russian, BBC Arabic BBC Hindi and BBC Turkish. The remainder of the 33 languages will get live and on-demand AAC as the sites and infrastructure are updated over the coming months. In addition we also provide Shoutcast MP3 at 32Kbps of our English, Arabic and Russian live streams for mobile use. We are looking into expanding this into more live streams and an on-demand service in the future, but no firm dates as yet. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of adancy+backst...@gmail.com Sent: 08 September 2009 10:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing? So a fair summary for what's happening with radio would be as follows: Local Radio - changing from Real to WMA for the low bitrate option Network Radio - staying as is, although presumably with WMA being added eventually as per previous comments on BBC blogs World Service - staying as is, but with the future addition of AAC Ironically, since Friday a number of the previously missing RealAudio programme streams appear to have come alive again! Presumably this is just their last swansong before they are sent to the great /dev/null in the sky... Andrew From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of John O'Donovan Hi Andrew, generally these streams won't be available as RealAudio in the future. As you will no doubt have seen, the BBC is reducing it's dependency on Real Media as a delivery mechanism, though it will still be supported. Coyopa was designed to meet the needs of centralised National Radio rather than Local Radio and the distribution problems, source quality and encoding issues for Local Radio are very different, complicated and expensive to develop. Local Radio is still dependent on gathering the streams through a variety of methods and encoding at an aggregation point, and this aggregation point is at capacity at the moment. Cheers, jod
RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
FWIW: The BBC World Service has no plans to drop Real or Windows Media support on any of it's language services. The narrowband services are still valuable to our listeners around the world, and our relatively modern infrastructure means its no more difficult for us to stream a megabyte of Real than it is the stream a megabyte of Windows Media or AAC. We will continue to roll out AAC support to the remaining language sites as they are being refreshed, retaining the Real and Windows Media support as we go. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * 02 71285 (internal) * +44 (0)20 7557 1285 (external) * gareth.da...@bbc.co.uk From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of John O'Donovan Sent: 07 September 2009 00:39 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing? Hi Andrew, generally these streams won't be available as RealAudio in the future. As you will no doubt have seen, the BBC is reducing it's dependency on Real Media as a delivery mechanism, though it will still be supported. Coyopa was designed to meet the needs of centralised National Radio rather than Local Radio and the distribution problems, source quality and encoding issues for Local Radio are very different, complicated and expensive to develop. Local Radio is still dependent on gathering the streams through a variety of methods and encoding at an aggregation point, and this aggregation point is at capacity at the moment. Cheers, jod From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of adancy+backst...@gmail.com Sent: 04 September 2009 16:50 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing? Can someone from the Beeb clarify that the Windows streams will be *instead* of Real, as the implication of that article (and also a number of blog comments from James Cridland in the past) was that Windows Media streams would be in *addition* to the existing streams. From what I understand one of the big reasons behind the Coyopa project was that it's relatively easy for you to produce the same audio in multiple formats, so it seems a bit odd that you're replacing one format with another. Certainly there's still demand for RealAudio - I'm regularly seeing several hundred people a day using the RealAudio listen again links and widgets on my site, and I'm pretty sure other similar sites like Beebotron must have the same if not greater traffic for their RealAudio links. It's a particular problem with internet radios and mobile devices, as many of them don't support the AAC format you're now using for live streams and can't access the MP3 files you're now using for local radio Listen Again due to the content delivery system completely obsfuscating the URLs. Andrew Dancy www.iplayerconverter.co.uk http://www.iplayerconverter.co.uk (apologies if this appears twice - fun and games with gmail and their silly 'on behalf of' header) From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Gavin Johnson Sent: 04 September 2009 14:42 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing? Ok so it turns out that a dual bitrate option will continue to be available, but in Windows rather than Real. So that link is temporarily broken while things are being moved around. There's some useful background here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/08/improvements_to_bbc_local _radi.html On 04/09/2009 13:50, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk wrote: As of Tuesday there is no longer a dual bitrate option. It looks like iplayer haven't caught up. Thanks for noticing, I'll give someone a nudge about getting the link removed. Gavin On 04/09/2009 12:43, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: What has happened to the RealAudio feeds of the local radio (BBC London in particular) Listen Again content? As an example http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0046fbf/Danny_Baker_03_09_2009/ choose the pop-out player
RE: [backstage] Fwd: [Autonomo.us] Skype, out?
Wouldn't be the first set top box to run BBC Basic. Many years ago I did some development for the KIT platform that used Pace DSL 4000 boxes. These were based on the Acorn Risc PC and could be given a *BASIC command to drop them into BBC Basic V. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 06 August 2009 14:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Autonomo.us] Skype, out? Actually, I would be right up for writing a BBC Basic interpreter for set-top boxes. Probably have to have some MHEG5-type interface, but the idea is quite workable. Not sure about how to make it support XML yet... 2009/8/6 John Styles hpeng...@gmail.com How about a BBC Micro 2012 Edition...? FMT need another impossible tech project. Be more exciting than Bang Goes The Theory. Funnily enough I was thinking about the same thing a couple of days ago, somehow I fear that devices conforming to the Canvas Project specification won't have some sort of BBC Basic built in! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] 1Xtra, Radio1 and Radio 4 currently off-air on iPlayer landing page for a few minutes?
It's a known problem. The iPlayer schedule for each radio station has 'holes' in it where no programme is being encoded. Currently iPlayer can't tell the difference between this hole being a gap between programmes, or because the station is not on air. A fix is due soon for this. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 01 March 2009 19:07 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] 1Xtra, Radio1 and Radio 4 currently off-air on iPlayer landing page for a few minutes? How come they sometimes show this? (like they were just around 7pm) The TV-Anytime XML feeds have listings but the iPlayer front page wasn't showing them correctly. However, upon reloading the page a couple of minutes later, it was fine. Each station's respective pages on the iPlayer site showed correct now playing information. Was I just unlucky enough to catch the page during the o' clock changeover? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Why the poor bitrates on World Service, Asian Network etc?
On 21 October 2008 21:15, Gareth Davis wrote: As it happens we will have completed migrating our radio and on-demand playout to an external CDN when the schedules change at the end of BST, so this solves the infrastructure problem. Once we have the minor detail of launching Persian TV out of the way, we will be looking at making additional formats and bitrates available - but in a way that does not affect those that still need the narrowband Real/Windows offerings. Just in case you were wondering about this, we have now started rolling out AAC+ across our on-demand offerings, the first bulletin to be changed over is on the BBC Brasil site that was relaunched yesterday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/portuguese/multimedia/2009/01/090128_radio_boletins deradio.shtml Over the coming months we will make all our on-demand, live streams and embedded clips available in AAC+ in addition to Real and Windows media. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?
-Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Steve Bowbrick Sent: 16 January 2009 12:59 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online? Watchification.com uses the hacky way of embedding - when we first started to embed (early 2008) various BBC folk told us it was just a matter of time before it was officially allowed but it looks like politics/rights issues etc. have held this up. To add to that, I've been told one of the reasons we do not allow embed on iPlayer (and on our news YouTube channels) is because the content expires. So anyone who did embed the content in their pages would have a broken link within a few days - which isn't a great user experience. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed
From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 31 December 2008 22:15 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Gareth Davis gareth.da...@bbc.co.uk wrote: It still still being made, just not for the tellybox :) http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/top_of_the_pops.shtml So, why doesn't it appear in http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00704hg/upcoming Surely it should - it's the same brand (owned by BBC ONE, but you still broadcast a radio version) -- http://james.cridland.net/ | http://notatallbad.ltd.uk/legal_info/ Technical answer is: We have quite a few English programmes that are not broadcast on the World Service English for UK network, and as all international networks are currently out of scope for /programmes, they do not appear in /programmes or iPlayer. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * 02 71285 (internal) * +44 (0)20 7557 1285 (external) * gareth.da...@bbc.co.uk
RE: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed
It still still being made, just not for the tellybox :) http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/top_of_the_pops.shtml (and it's nearly an hour long, must get someone to fix the page) -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Sam Mbale Sent: 22 December 2008 23:40 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed Another wish,if you may allow me. Bring back Top of the Pops. Happy holidays Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Sam Mbale smb...@mpelembe.net wrote: Ian All I want for xmas is a BBC logo. Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.com wrote: Ok so a little while back we kind of launched or announced that we were building out some of the core parts of the backstage site into ideas.welcomebackstage.com (please note the url will change one day soon). ideas is based on the Ubuntu idea torrent project and we're happy to be supporting more free and open software projects. And I'm even happier to announce the submit your own ideas section is now up and running for you all to throw ideas at. So go over to http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com, signup and submit a idea or two The ideas can be pretty much anything from why doesn't the BBC Recipe section not have a RSS and a API to large scale changes like enabling BitTorrent support with the next version of iPlayer. Feel free to go into as much detail as you like but keep the titles clear and readable. This will hopefully insure when we show them to people higher up the chain they will actually read them. Its also ok to resubmit ideas which have come up before and were not resolved in the way you felt they should have been. I'm hoping ideas.welcomebackstage's structured approach to ideas will help with getting official answers and proper sign off in the future. Cheers, comments and questions to us Ian - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Why the poor bitrates on World Service, Asian Network etc?
Steve Jolly wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: You could, perhaps, make high bitrate versions available to platform providers, with a limited number of feeds for the likes of LiveStation and Zattoo and the like. Intuitively, that strikes me as opening up *different* cans of worms... Other cans of worms are available as they say. This isn't as daft as it sounds. I thought one of the World Service radio stations was already on Livestation? Maybe I'm thinking of a different platform, or maybe it was for a limited period. Either way, we have a weekly reach of over 180 million listeners, when you add in the audience from the BBC World News channel it gives the Global News Division a weekly reach of well over a quarter of a billion people across all platforms. You don't get a reach like that by accident. We have a team of people who's job it is to do the necessary deals to extend our reach as far and wide as possible - whether just making the five minute bulletin available on a partner station or making an entire network available on an FM relay or emerging platform. Don't worry Brian, deals are being done all the time. But I'm sure you can understand that these products are not for public discussion here pre launch. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Why the poor bitrates on World Service, Asian Network etc?
Christopher Woods wrote: This one's a late night, in-the-kitchen thought. I turned the radio on while I was making a cup of tea and of course, after R4 closedown the WS is simulcast. On FM, you get a wonderful, crisp stereo feed. On DAB, the WS feed is fine when listening to the Radio 4 simulcast, 128kbps stereo, but its own dedicated slot is naff: a 64kbps mono stream. On the web, it's even worse - only streamed at 32kbps WMA/RA. AsianNetwork is 64kbps mono on DAB - even 5Live has a better bitrate (80kbps mono). I'm told some experiments were done a few years back on the DAB feed to point R4 and WS at the same pool for the duration of the simulcast. However it caused many models of DAB receiver around at the time to crash either when the services were merged, or separated. This resulted in lots of R4 people in BH cursing the World Service as they came into work the next morning to find their office DAB radios had locked up :) The web streams are something we are currently looking at, there are a lot of things happening behind the scenes at the moment. But you can expect some higher bitrates and new formats in the coming months. As others have said, we are funded differently to the rest of BBC Radio and have to offer our service in a way that offers benefits to all our audience, wherever they may be in the world. So the model of using high bitrates restricted just to the UK (so mainly peering traffic) is not something that is appropriate for us to do. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc
Brian Butterworth wrote: The whole Astra 2D thing is a bit of a red herring. The Television Without Frontiers directive (89/552/EEC CHAPTER II, Article 2) allows for any terrestrial channel to be broadcast via satellite in Europe without encryption. There is no legal requirement for the broadcaster to use a tight beam. (*) Are you sure you have quoted the right directive Brian? I can't find any reference to terrestrial broadcasters. A brief summary of what section II article 2 of TVWF says is: Member states must ensure that broadcasters based within (or using satellite uplink or other frequencies within) their jurisdiction must comply with local laws. Also Member States are not allowed to block reception of other Member States' broadcasts being transmitted into their territory, or being retransmitted within their territory except under very special circumstances (such as protection of children). Anyone interested in the original can download the language and format of their choice here: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31989L0552:E N:NOT My understanding of this (and IANAL) is that should a broadcaster broadcast content outside the territory they have licensed the content for, then they will be in breach of copyright or other laws in the Member State of transmission. Chapter 2 Article 2 of TVWF says the broadcaster must comply with the laws in the Member State of transmission, and so the broadcaster has to be prosecuted for this according to TVWF. So I don't see how TVWF would help a broadcaster legally beam their content unencrypted into a territory they do not have rights for. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH
RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc
Frank Wales wrote: Andrew Bowden wrote: Even for smaller channels, there are benefits to being encrypted, such as reduced EPG listing fees. It costs less to tell people about your programmes if you encrypt them? The reason being...? The same company provides EPG and encryption services, so if you buy both you get a discount. I don't know if this is still the case though, it's been a good few years since I've been privy to the commercials of running a Sky Digital channel. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc
Brian Butterworth wrote: Given there are no companies that have both unencrypted and unencrypted channels on the EPG, it would still seem that rule is part of Sky's contacts... This is why, for example, Five can't just jump onto Freesat, because it has to do Fiver and Five US at the same time! I thought this was a simple case of capacity on Astra 2D. The rights agreements signed for the content on the 'five' channels would prevent it going FTA on the current transponders as they are on the 'south beam' that covers most of Europe. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH
RE: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming online in WMP any more?
If you do a 'view source' on the pop up player windows in Radio iPlayer you'll see the URLs for Windows Media, Real and Flash streams all embedded in the source code if they are available. The World Service has no plans to drop the narrowband Windows Media and Real Media streams. BTW: The two World Service streams you mention on your webpage are the core news network that provides only news programming, and a second network which is (currently) based roughly on the European English network that provides a mixture of News, Documentary and Entertainment programming minus any rights restricted content. The World Service stream linked to from iPlayer is based on the schedule used on the UK digital networks, and so is a third different stream of our content. We know it is confusing, and we are working on it. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 02 October 2008 15:30 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming online in WMP any more? I used to use the WMP feeds of News 24 and the other BBC stuff a _lot_ on my mobile device - yet a few weeks ago (and ever since), when I tried to load the streams - either on a PC or my mobile device - they now don't work. The News 24 stream just shows a static BBC News image for 10 seconds and then stops, and a few of the other streams are having problems too... Has el Beeb abandoned their non-Flash streaming now, or are the streaming links just buried away somewhere under a different URL? I used to use the list I'd compiled on http://3g.totallyowns.co.uk (cuz it does :P) but that's been rendered somewhat useless to me in the interim if the flippin' streams are just stopped without any prior warning. My device plays Flash far worse than it does WMP (read: not at all, unless it's embedded in a particular way into the page, and it certainly can't handle realtime video streaming and decoding) :( - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Radio now playing feeds
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Smethurst Sent: 01 August 2008 16:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Radio now playing feeds the other issue is around our legal agreements with the music industry around how much timing data we can give out for tracks playing O RLY? Would you be kind enough to expand on what the issues are? Unless you can't give it out for legal reasons of course! yup, u got me. not legal reasons but complete lack of expertise. sure other people are in a better position to answer... My understanding that giving out frame perfect metadata on live music streams is frowned upon as it gives stream ripping software a perfect cue as to when to cut the audio into individual song files, and what to name the cut files. Such software does exist, and I've seen it work very well. I don't know what the legal status of this is though, as I don't get to deal with music rights that often where I work. But I was told the same thing is Michael a while back by the sound of things. I know that other restrictions surrounding streaming music have been relaxed recently though, so this restriction may no longer be in place. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] So was *this* what Mr. Cridland was referring to recently?
Currently we're using old servers held together by string and sealing wax, run on our behalf by Siemens, and being waited on hand and foot by trained engineers to eke the very last amount of life out of their tired motherboards. They use software from Digital Rapids: http://www.digital-rapids.com/ http://www.digital-rapids.com/ Judging by the number of tickets I've seen raised for the boxes over the last couple of weeks, James really isn't joking! -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH
RE: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars
Anyone else find it strange that Richard Stallman feels it is apparently unjust for Microsoft and others to publish software that users are not free to share and modify, but it is ok to publish an article which readers are not free to share and modify? Just a thought. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Reynolds-FMT Sent: 04 July 2008 11:51 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars Hadn't noticed the CC licence - now that is good -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Greaves Sent: 04 July 2008 10:29 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars Fred Phillips wrote: On Fri Jul 4 08:39:26 2008, David wrote: ** It's not the Gates, it's the bars ** Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation, on the departure of Bill Gates. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm Meh, doesn't really say anything new. It's good that free software is getting some exposure from the likes of the BBC, even if it is a little hypocritical. True but look at the license for the article - how many articles does the BBC News produce under a CC license? David - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars
It uses CC-ND which only allows sharing with attribution, it does not allow commercial reuse or you to 'alter, transform or build upon this work' http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Reynolds-FMT Sent: 04 July 2008 12:58 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars I thought the CC licence at the bottom allowed this. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars
Rob Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stallman believes that works of opinion are different from pieces of software. He is concerned that arbitrary modifications of a work of opinion could lead to misrepresentation, and he's not alone in that. Software doesn't really have that problem, so he's right that they are different. I don't agree with his conclusions on this particular issue, I'm just trying to explain that his position is coherent. Personally I don't agree with the conclusions either, but everyone is entitled to their opinions. I've no knowledge on Stallman philosophy on anything other than software. It just jumped out the screen at me, that after the big long article on freedom, you then get restrictions put on what you can do with the article. I wouldn't have even considered it if the CC licence had not been mentioned and the article was posted under the usual site copyright terms. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist
RE: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars
On 04 July 2008 at 13:32 , Rob Mayers wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It uses CC-ND which only allows sharing with attribution, it does not allow commercial reuse or you to 'alter, transform or build upon this work' ND does allow commercial use. NC-ND would prevent commercial use. He doesn't mention BY or the version. He should. Only the old 1.0 CC licences had a standalone ND. ND is equivalent to the old one-line verbatim distribution licence he used to use, and his reasons for doing so have to do with the difference between source code and works of opinion. - Rob. I was just following the CC link posted in the news article, it states no commercial use. Has the wrong version been linked? -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist
RE: [backstage] BBC begins DVB-T2 test transmissions in preparation for HD on Freeview
For those of you that missed the announcement: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2008/06_june/27/h d.shtml I'm sure someone down at KW will know chapter and verse on this, but AFAIK there are no IDTVs currently on the market that will be compatible with the test transmissions. Most HD IDTVs have only SD DVB decoders, and the handful that do have HD decoders receive HD using MPEG2 compression over the usual DVB-T transport layer (as used elsewhere in the world like Australia). Somewhere else in Europe does use h264 for DVB HD services (France maybe?) but over standard DVB-T not DVB-T2. Guildford could be a world first. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * 02 71285 (internal) * +44 (0)20 7557 1285 (external) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Barber Sent: 27 June 2008 16:08 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC begins DVB-T2 test transmissions in preparation for HD on Freeview Anyone had any luck picking this up? I have a HDTV with a Freeview tuner, but have no idea if this is capable of picking up HD over the air... is it ATSC? I'm unsure of the specifics. --Matt
RE: [backstage] Nabaztags and BBC Radio...
I have one sat next to my desk now as it happens (actually a Nabaztagtag), although ours is used mainly to announce problems picked up by our Nagios system. It has been though a really bad period of reliability earlier in the year, sometimes spending days unable to contact the Nabaztag server. However the service has been much better in recent weeks and the bunny has starting waving its ears before we get the SMS in some cases. I suspect RM and WMA streams are beyond it though. One of our partners rebroadcasts a syndicated World Service schedule using mp3 over Shoutcast so this should work if you substitute your serial (MAC address) and API token (obtainable from the My Nabaztag portal): http://api.nabaztag.com/vl/FR/api_stream.jsp?token=TOKENsn=SERIALurlLi st=http://vprbbc.streamguys.net:80 And before anyone asks: We are also looking into alternative formats and distribution methods over here at the World Service, in the same way that James and his colleagues at AMI are looking at alternative formats to the current Real and Windows offerings. MP3 or AAC over Shoutcast are on the list of technologies we are considering, but we are a long way from making any decisions on whether they are appropriate to develop into a full service yet. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Wong Sent: 16 June 2008 15:09 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Nabaztags and BBC Radio... Just wondering, does anyone here have a Nabaztag, and have they managed to get it broadcasting streams from BBC Radio, eg Radio 1 or 6 Music? Andrew, thinking of shopping for one... (this is NOT a BBC endorsement of a French product, needless to say!)
RE: [backstage] Friday humour
What do you call a three legged donkey? A wonky. What do you call a three legged donkey with one eye? A winky wonky. What do you call a three legged donkey with one eye playing the piano? A plinky plonky winky wonky. Shall I continue? :) -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 06 June 2008 16:41 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Friday humour Some of these jokes are terrible! :) Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean DALY Sent: 06 June 2008 11:33 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Friday humour A skeleton walks into a bar. He says, I'll have a pint... and a mop - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels
The only option then was really to use the NTL analogue feed they put down the coax. Friendly engineer gave us some F type ends and cable and we could at least get 1 to 4. And Sky one audio on the FM. The old NYNEX FM hook up - that takes me back. It seemed amazing at the time, to get stereo sound on some channels you could tune into them on your FM radio instead. I didn't have a NICAM TV then, and NICAM support was a bit hit and miss on the old Scientific Atlanta 8600 series boxes anyway. And as an added bonus you got a cable exclusive station and a few international stations thrown in too, like VOA and the BBC World Service. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels
What kit did the Beeb use, and what do they use now? (fascinated by the choices in tech) No idea about the rest of the BBC, but we do the TV Encoding with Osprey 540 cards in hp DL360G5 servers at Bush running Windows. Windows media audio encoding is also done here at Bush house using Osprey 230 cards in hp DL360G5 servers running Windows. We have our own bespoke software to control the scheduling of clip encoding at Bush (using the Windows Media and Real SDKs) and drop the content to Borg (the system that puts content on our web/clip servers) or Akamai as appropriate. Our Real encoding is done at Maidenhead by Siemens. IIRC on a load of rather old Sun Netra servers with the scheduling controlled by cron. There is another bespoke system called Bob that maintains the crontabs on the boxes. Audio gets to MH from BU via a number of Intraplex cards and E1 lines. The rest of the BBC radio encodes their Real files in pretty much the same way, although they may get the audio to MH in different ways. Since we are looking into delivering other formats beyond Real and Windows we are in the process of evaluating the easiest way to do this, so it is likely that things will be different for the World Service in a years time. Also (off-topic slightly) does anybody know what kit the radio studios use for the automatic level ducking when a DJ's speaking over the intro / tail of a track? I've seen what looks like a sidechaining compressor in the background of some shots on programmes like Timelapse or suchlike (where a DJ's being interviewed in the studio), but this assumption is largely based on the visible LED activity on the front panel of the device when the DJ's seen speaking in shot (sat next to the broadcast mic at the desk). Unfortunately though the interesting stuff (the hardware!) has always never been in focus so I've not been able to identify the kit :( If someone knows someone who knows and can ask them, that's also quite acceptable ;) We have these things called an SM. Most of the older studios come with them, although they are less popular in newer studio builds but you can sometimes share with another studio. And some of them react faster than others to excessive volume levels judging by the level of the FARSA network this morning :) -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH (with apologies to the Studio Managers before I get lynched in the bar tomorrow)
RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels
Agreed about the quality. Since the service is not officially sanctioned they are going to have to do the encoding 'off-air'. And a 3-4Mbps MPEG2 feed is not a good starting point for doing further compression from. While I don't know what the channel formally known as News 24 does with their video streams, we encode our live video for BBC Arabic directly from a 270Mbps SDI feed of the network output. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Compston Sent: 13 May 2008 19:05 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels Moving away from the legal wrangles for a moment, I must say I'm not too impressed with the quality of their streams... Looking at my PC's network usage zattoo is using three times as much bandwith (admittedly some will be upstream) than the FLV stream of News 24 (sorry, News Channel) we're running tests on currently (beta stream coming to news.bbc.co.uk soonish), but actually looks worse - lots of blocking buffering. My PC is rather old, but the connection's not too bad - getting around 5Mbps currently. Rich. On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The relevant part of the Copyrights and Patents Act 1988 (as Amended) is here: http://www.jenkins.eu/copyright-(statutes)(1)/part-1-copyright-.asp#s73 http://www.jenkins.eu/copyright-%28statutes%29%281%29/part-1-copyright- .asp#s73 It all boils down to the definition of 'cable' and 're-transmission by cable'. Interestingly the Act does not say 're-broadcast' by cable, it doesn't say it has to be in a partciular format (DVB-S or analogue PAL, for example) and does not state that it has to be a 'broadcast' (many to one) just a 're-tranmission'. It also says that 'ee-transmission by cable include the transmission of microwave energy between terrestrial fixed points' which seems to cover wireless internet in my book... 2008/5/13 Robin Cramp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From a user perspective viewing content in this way is great, it provides another source of viewing; more importantly online. I would think from a broadcaster perspective there is a sense of split view on the subject. Broadcasting the stations as is gives them an extra level of exposure, not to mention the advertisers too. Although from a content owner perspective there is the age old issues about copyright. I personally think that it will be the rights owners that will have the biggest say in whether Zattoo should continue in their current model, rather than the broadcasters pushing for change. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 May 2008 14:35 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://zattoo.com/ http://informitv.com/articles/2008/05/09/zattooclaimscopyright/ Zattoo, which is now offering live online streams of the leading British terrestrial television channels, is claiming it has the right to do so under the United Kingdom Copyright Act. Zattoo says it operates strictly legitimately on the basis of agreements with broadcasters and the copyright law but the British broadcasters say they have no agreements with the streaming startup company. The law seems ambiguous at best. Interesting stuff. I can see how retransmission is a good thing but only through the right channels - i.e. if I were to provide content to the BBC or ITV, I would like it to be transmitted professionally and with a good level of quality. Any views on this? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk
RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels
Christopher Woods wrote: By BHX you mean Birmingham, right? (just doublechecking) And is everything moving for News (studios AND live broadcast coordination, all that stuff, and not just any one element of it?) Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I've been following this story very inattentively, shame on me. (One of the reasons I'm so interested is because it could also work out nicely in my favour given my planned career path after I've graduated next year). Is there anywhere where I can find a decent amount of info about any planned move? (aside from the stuff rumbling around on DS forums) As others have already said BHX is the extension to London Broadcasting House, apologies for the lapse into BBC TLAs. No idea what the site code is for the Mailbox, if any does know then feel free to email me it - because I can't find a list on Gateway :) If you are interested in the construction of the new Broadcasting House, the new home for BBC News and the World Service then there is a public facing site here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadcastinghouse/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadcastinghouse/ -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH
RE: [backstage] Ashley Highfield leaves BBC (almost)
Peter Bowyer wrote: On 16/04/2008, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be the first order of the day - a beanbag for all staff and free beer in the meeting rooms. Last.fm has the ballpit (with webcams) and the BPI has the free beer, I think that's reason enough for the Beeb to implement them both as sensible employee-centric policies. Surely you'd want firemens' poles and slides like Google in Switzerland?? Since you are in the advance party going to Manchester Ian, perhaps you could have a word with the project team to make sure all of this is a requirement for the new building :) And if anyone is reading this from the W1 project Can we have some slides in those big atriums going into the new BHX? Or maybe some kind of gravity drop ride? News 24^H^HThe BBC News Channel would be so much more entertaining being punctuated by screams of those taking the 'express lift' to reception :) -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution
Brian, It has been pointed out several times now that the problem is between the home user and the ISP, not the ISP and the BBC/Akamai. Although it might appear from a traceroute that there is nothing between your home router and your ISP - there is, but the IP traffic is encapsulated and passed within BTs ATM cloud so you cannot see it. It is the cost of moving the encapsulated IP within this cloud between the home user and the ISP where the problem is. No amount of caching or proxying at the ISP end will help, because it is outside the ATM cloud. If any caching were to be effective it would have to work inside the cloud at exchange or regional level, and I'm not aware of any technology that can read the ATM packets, decap the IP packets from them, interpret the IP packets - then inject more packets with correctly encapsulated and valid IP into the ATM cloud as a response. All this would have to be at wire speed so as not to add latency to all connections passing through the device. Without doing this, there is no where else to put the proxy for it to be effective. Anyone who thinks they can do this, go and build it. You stand to make a vast amount of money installing them in every exchange. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 15 April 2008 17:14 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution You are saying that the capacity on each individual ADSL line here is the problem? I really don't see that. The STATED problem is PAYING for the PIPES to backbone from BT. If this isn't the problem, then someone is lying.
RE: [backstage] DAB rollout...
Andrew Bowden wrote: However when you have sizable audience bases, it's extremely difficult just to turn something off because something better has come along because people don't want to go out and buy new equipment. Such big switch-offs are rare If we were to ditch everything and start again tomorrow I'm not convinced we wouldn't be in the same situation. The multiplex operators would take the same correct (from the shareholder's point of view) commercial decisions to fit as many streams on a mux as possible. So instead of getting 64K Mono MP2 station you will get 2 32K Mono AAC stations. Would this be an improvement for the amount of hassle it would cause? (last one I can think of was the migration from VHF to UHF for TV signals which finally ended in the 1980s after UHF first launched in the 1960s) Which released Band III, which was then available for use by DAB. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH My views - not Auntie's. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] DAB rollout...
Andrew Bowden wrote: You still have a Wavefinder? Blimey. I threw mine in the bin in a fit of rage after it caused the signal to break up for about the twentith time in the space of 30 minutes. That Wavefinder caused me so much stress and grief it was insane. I still have one, I found most of the problems I had with it were down to the rubbish power supply that come with it. After I chopped the power lead in half and added a molex connector to power it from the 12v supply inside the PC it behaved much better - rather than dropping out whenever the blue LED came on and the extra current draw overloaded the rubbish PSU. I suspect most of the surviving ones have had some kind of mod involving the power supply. The drivers stopped working when XP SP2 was released and Psion terminated support at this point rather than rewrite the drivers - so if you did keep your PC up to date it became useless then. But the old drivers did start working again under Vista, which was a bit if a surprise to me. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Is Freesat going to be HD only?
Brian Butterworth wrote: On 27/03/2008, Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:45:52AM +0100, Brian Butterworth wrote: I have no idea why Sky do this. Why on earth would I want to watch the SD version of a channel if I can watch it in HD. I don't know exactly how the Sky system works, but perhaps you want to record it in SD to watch it on a TV which doesn't support HD? I can't see the logic in that. If you have a HD box, you can replay the HD content as SD. But why would you buy a HD box if you can't watch HD? I do it fairly regularly. If you are short on disk space there is no point recording an upscaled SD programme as HD. Granted if the broadcaster using a Snell and Wilcox box to do the deinterlace/upscale/reinterlace then it should look much better than the same process done by the budget chipset in the Sky HD receiver - or even the better chips (Faroujda etc.) you get in screens and AV receivers these days. I'd rather not be forced into recording and watching in 1080i, 576i deinterlaced to 576p looks better on my system than 576i upscaled to 1080i. So I'd rather do that and save the disk space. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH
RE: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)
Part of the problem is that what one person might hear and what another person might hear is different. Whilst I know some people who can, personally I can't tell the difference between DAB Radio 2 and FM Radio 2 broadcast via the same set. Actually that's a lie. I can. FM is the one with the fuzz and hiss. I'm not one of the biggest fans of DAB for a number of reasons, but in a lot of London you do get better reception of DAB than you do of the FM networks. I live in East London, in an old factory that has two very big (maybe 100ft tall) water towers sticking out the top with a communal FM aerial up the top of one of them. Unobstructed line of sight to Crystal Palace, should give great reception in theory (barring some multipath from the Docklands towers). The reality is that local pirate activity tends to cause problems for near enough everything on the band, and having such a high aerial makes matters worse. BBC London was impossible to listen to on FM this morning, both from my cheap clock radio and the proper tuner plugged in to the external aerial. It is up to the individual what they prefer though, personally compression artefacts on a stable signal are less intrusive to me than having an artefact free signal being trashed by the beat of a nearby pirate station fading in and out. Although given the choice between a poor FM signal and a poor DAB signal I'd just turn the radio off as DAB does not degrade gracefully. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH
RE: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)
Anyhow, personally I'm stuck until I can get a non-DRM HD signal into my Linux Myth PVR. BBC HD is broadcast in the clear on Astra 2D (28.2E) at 10.847Ghz V 22000SR 5/6FEC, I'm pretty sure it is still broadcast as DVB-S (rather then DVB-S2 like the Sky HD channels) so a normal DVB-S card and a dish set up for Sky Digital should do the job. I'll warn you that a lot of processing power is required to decode the H264 profile in real time. When the BBC were doing the HD DVB-T trials across London I had a go at trying to pick it up, and found that my 3Ghz P4 machine could only managed about 14 fps. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] iPlayer, DRM, Free Software and the iPhone
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hannen Sent: 11 March 2008 00:20 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer, DRM, Free Software and the iPhone My mum too - she keeps telling me that I should encourage the BBC to use fewer DRM restrictions... All the time... On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My mother hates unnecessary technical complications (she finds computers and gadgets are complicated enough as it is) and DRM falls right into that category :-) Mine once asked me why the telly goes off when she presses the red button. She's learnt to use the cable remote now though :) -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Last.fm for television
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Bowyer Sent: 28 January 2008 13:48 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Last.fm for television On 28/01/2008, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I presume that a TV version of last.fm would be last.uhf? last.am would be more consistent, if slightly confusing. Peter (who hates mixing frequency ranges and modulation types when describing RF transmissions) Unless it's DTT, in which case it's last.qam -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery - Part of BBC Global News * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * 02 71285 (internal) * 020 7557 1285 (external) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]
David Greaves wrote: [snip] And it still doesn't excuse the front page dynamic links being 'gamed' to point to a years old piece. I expect 'most emailed' to be limited to stories from the last few days. Would that be the goat? It was discussed here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/adam_curtis/ And followed up - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6619983.stm -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery - Part of BBC Global News * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * 02 71285 (internal) * 020 7557 1285 (external) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Interesting iPlayer news
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch Sent: 24 December 2007 11:53 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Interesting iPlayer news Ah, sorry, I could have been clearer - While I can see Strictly (and the rest) listed on bbc.co.uk/iplayer, none of the video clips are available to play here. They're apparently being served from a non-bbc.co.uk domain, therefore are unavailable on The Cloud - unless I pay. Looks like we need to look into this from the World Service. Only narrowband real media is served from bbc.co.uk servers, the other formats are served from the Akamai network. Chances are that this problem also applies to the majority of our streamed/on-demand content too. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live
The Solaris 10 11/06 machine sitting on my desk is also playing the streams. All it needed was the flash plugin downloading from Adobe. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist WS Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * 707NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glyn Wintle Sent: 13 December 2007 13:14 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live It does work on my Ubuntu. Adobe Flash Player 9 - Original Message From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:16:23 PM Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live Nice to see the BBC have made sure that it doesn't run on Linux, or at least it doesn't run on this version. I get a nice blank grey screen. And a mouse hand with no indication of what it does. Clicking it informs me I have to enter into a legally binding contract[1]. A contract that states if I want to use a tablet I have to also buy Windows XP. (it lists a specific version I must have). How is it in the least bit cross platform if I have to enter into a contract that says I have to use WindowsXP? It also states the software can only be used on a PC, so what are Mac users meant to do? (aside from breach contract). This is a complete sham. With the contract for the software needed to access the content it works on very few platforms. And oddly it won't work on other implementations of Flash. How about using a non-Windows streaming solution? Or is the plan to try and trick the Trust into believing that software that states PC only, and Tablet PCs must run WinXP is cross platform? [1] http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/players/flash/ Andy -- Computers are like air conditioners. Both stop working, if you open windows. -- Adam Heath - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ __ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] RSS feed for emergency information
A number of feeds are available from www.communitysafe.gov.uk covering Central London and Tower Hamlets. For example http://communitysafe.gov.uk/channels/13-westminster-urgent.atom will give you major incidents in the Westminster area. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media Operations - Part of BBC Global News Division * 707NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Cartwright Sent: 14 November 2007 09:38 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feed for emergency information There is none... http://www.google.com/search?q=site:london-fire.gov.uk+rss But there is some interesting talk of web service use... http://www.google.com/search?q=site:london-fire.gov.uk+xml J On 14/11/2007, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RSS feed for emergency information http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/news/latest_incidents.asp is a primary resource for current incidents within London. It seem obvious that this should be available as an RSS feed, but where is it? regards Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again
The Windows community is patiently waiting for the Vista version of course :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden Sent: 05 November 2007 14:58 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again I always hate that term community in this sense - because not all Linux users are the same after all. And I've seen plenty of Mac fans do similar things (usually when someone is critising their beloved Apple!) Anyway, where's the Windows community in all this ;) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood Sent: 05 November 2007 14:50 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again And it appears the Linux community has managed to ignore what he has to say and has organised a let's shout him down louder and louder until someone takes some notice of us party. No positive suggestions, just bleat bleat bleat we hate you... As ever. Cheers, R. Ashley has posted an update: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2007/11/linux_figures_1.html
RE: [backstage] Windows Media Center - BBC News works on XP MCE but not on Vista?
I've just tried it on our Vista machine and it runs fine. The machine was only built a couple of weeks ago, so it is virtually a clean build of Vista Ultimate with updates applied. Sorry I can't be more help, we don't have anything to do with that app over here at Bush House. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media Operations - Part of BBC Global News Division * 701NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 16 August 2007 17:35 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Windows Media Center - BBC News works on XP MCE but not on Vista? It might be me... I tried using the Windows XP Media Center Edition's BBC News application last week and it worked fine (apart from crashing the XBox 360's extender software...) but the same application only lists the RSS feeds as a menu under Vista's Media Center, the videos do not work. Is this a feature? Or is it just me (and my four Vista installations...)? Brian Butterworth
RE: [backstage] iPlayer Today?
On 7/29/07, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Must be full moon soon. There really was a full moon last night, although reports of Ian becoming a Werewolf are apparently wide of the mark :) -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media Operations - Part of BBC Global News Division * 701NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
