RE: [backstage] Ping...

2011-06-03 Thread Gareth Davis

Exactly, someone checks and it bounces :) 

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 From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Ant Miller
 Sent: 03 June 2011 16:21
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: RE: [backstage] Ping...
 
 And to think people ask me why this list has gone quiet.. 
 
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 From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Ben Weiner
 Sent: 03 June 2011 14:08
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [backstage] Ping...
 
 
 On 3 Jun 2011, at 13:53, Brian Butterworth wrote:
 
  
  On 3 June 2011 08:54, Ben Weiner b...@readingtype.org.uk wrote:
  On 3 Jun 2011, at 08:00, Richard Lockwood wrote:
  
   I had got used to Chrome doing my spell checking (but 
 no grammar 
   check as yet...) and I've just got myself an Asus 
 Transfomer with
 
   a fresh helping of Android Ice Cream Sandwich and .. no spell
 checker in the browser.
  
   The check's in the post.
  
   Cheque, surely?
  
  
   Do you need a spell chequer?
  
  
  A post-chequer, or better an ex-chequer, would fit the bill.
  
  Perhaps I need to check my Czech cheque?
 
 A small change may be needed.
 
 Ben
 
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RE: [backstage] A familiar face...

2011-05-18 Thread Gareth Davis

If I'm out on the water I'd listen via the coastguard MSI bulletin on
VHF, rather than tune in to Radio 4. But it's still the shipping
forecast either way.  

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 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Scott
 Sent: 18 May 2011 15:00
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 Subject: Re: [backstage] A familiar face...
 
 Every boat I've be a crew on always tunes in. Although the 
 1979 Fastnet Race is often mentioned...
 Tom
 
 
 On 18/05/2011 14:35, Dirk-Willem van Gulik 
 di...@webweaving.org wrote:
 
  
  On 18 May 2011, at 14:23, Robert Binney wrote:
  
  I have been told that no sailors listen to the Shipping 
 Forecast - 
  can this be true?
  
  Well - if you have the money (and enough battery power and ample of 
  pricey thermal paper) - you get it off your navtex(1) or from the 
  met-office feed of immarsat(2).  But I've found myself in a 
 situation 
  more than once where knowing that you could be having _reliable_ 
  warnings with just a simple battery  radio independent of 
 it all was very reassuring.
  
  Dw.
  
  1: 
  
 http://www.frisnit.com/cgi-bin/navtex/view.cgi?NAVAREA=1action=browse
  TYPE=24
  H - the MET ones.
  2: http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/shtml/UKMHSFAT
  
  
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RE: [backstage] Problems with iPlayer video - how to report?

2011-02-21 Thread Gareth Davis
Chris,
You can find links to service status and a contact form from here:
http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/using_bbc_iplayer/tech_report

Comments about World Service content do get through to me, so filling in
the form does work.

Cheers,

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Technology
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 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of 
 Christopher Woods
 Sent: 20 February 2011 23:35
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: [backstage] Problems with iPlayer video - how to report?
 
 Watching the AV Referendum Speeches there's a LOT of picture 
  sound breakup, looks like a bad OB sat feed.
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00zb198/House_of_Commons
 _AV_Referendum
 _Speeches/
 
 To whom should this problem be reported and what's the best 
 way to report technical problems in future if/when this 
 backstage list gets closed?
 
 Cheers
 Chris
 
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RE: [backstage] Problems with iPlayer video - how to report?

2011-02-21 Thread Gareth Davis
Chris,
Can't speak for my colleagues elsewhere in radio, but WS doesn't
transcode between codecs anywhere in our longform workflow and never has
done. 

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 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of 
 Christopher Woods
 Sent: 21 February 2011 17:24
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: RE: [backstage] Problems with iPlayer video - how to report?
 
 
  Chris,
  You can find links to service status and a contact form from here:
  http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/using_bbc_iplayer/t
  ech_report
  
  Comments about World Service content do get through to me, 
 so filling 
  in the form does work.
 
 Super :
 
 Whilst I have your eye as such, are the MP3 versions of 
 iPlayer radio content still transcodes from AAC or are they 
 encoded from the source feed in parallel? I always noticed in 
 the past whenever I used get_iplayer to grab some radio shows 
 for my DAP the MP3 versions (via flashaudio etc) were 
 noticeably poorer quality than the original raw AACs; warbly, 
 burbly sound, what sounded like transcoding artefacts and 
 distortion of the stereo imaging. Has the MP3 encoding 
 workflow for radio programmes changed at all since last year?
 
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RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-14 Thread Gareth Davis
 From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden
 Sent: 14 September 2010 09:42
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium
 
 It should work.  But not everything will work.  The EPG 
 probably won't, nor the Now and Next.  You're unlikely to get 
 traditional teletext.
 And if you're German, you won't get the menus in German.
 
 As a German would you buy a UK set top box?
 
 As a Brit would you buy a German set top box?
 

I think you might be surprised Andrew how well DVB kit works across
Europe from the larger manufacturers. The LCD screens we have in the
office are an EU wide model that asks you for the country and language
first time you switch them on, and because they are an EU wide design
give us things like integrated DVB-C which we need - but wouldn't
normally be available on a UK specific model. Teletext works, Subtitles
work, Logical channel numbers work, Now and Next works for the current
mux - and probably would work across all channels if I could ever get my
head round the EIT correlator on the headend. Red button even works from
the DVB-C tuner, as long as we have not done any SID/PID remapping when
remuxing the services for the DVB ringmain. 

Admittedly most of this came as a surprise to me too, they were
purchased because they were the cheepest 1080 panels in the catalogue -
the feature set was a welcome bonus.

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RE: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire

2010-08-13 Thread Gareth Davis
I couldn't tell you what the official BBC position is on IPv6. But it
has been an ongoing agenda item for some months at the Online Operations
meetings, and we are well aware that we do have to adopt it sooner
rather than later. RD have been doing some work in the area, and there
was (and may still be) a frontend server for the news site accessible
over pure IPv6. 

How we transition the public facing infrastructure is still up for
discussion (using some kind of proxy, a pure implementation or some
hybrid of the two) as we have well over a decade of legacy to consider,
which has the potential to behave in all sorts of new and exciting ways
when exposed to IP addresses greater than 32 bits long :)

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 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts
 Sent: 13 August 2010 09:37
 To: BBC Backstage Mailing List
 Subject: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
 
 Happy Friday 13th Everybody!
 
 This month, I'm running a short questionnaire (should only 
 take a couple of minutes to complete) on IPv6 planning and 
 adoption in the UK. Not the most exciting of topics, I 
 realise, but *quite* important in some respects.
 
 Some of you will undoubtedly have seen this mentioned 
 elsewhere, and may even have filled it in (if so, thanks!). 
 For the rest, though, I'd appreciate it if you could take a 
 couple of minutes to have a look.
 Some answers from within bits of the BBC would be grand if 
 it's at all possible, but I know it's relevant to a number of 
 others on the list, too.
 
 You can find the questionnaire at:
 
 https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDc3MzV3ZjVKd
 UZuY2NkQm1BakdJQkE6MQ
 
 I'll be closing it on Friday 3rd September in time for UKNOF17
 (http://uknof.org.uk/) -- I'm not presenting the results, but 
 I will be publishing the stats in time for the meeting on the 
 offchance that there are related sessions on the agenda.
 
 Cheers!
 
 M.
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RE: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-16 Thread Gareth Davis

On 16 Jun 2010, at 08:15, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv
wrote:
 On 16 June 2010 07:54, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote:

 On 16 Jun 2010, at 07:11, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv
wrote:  

 It's only on the EPG anyway, even Windows Media Centre will bypass
it, as it uses the DigiGuide one.  Or record the whole audio-video
stream and use an edit package.  Or pause/record the old fashioned way.


 Deviation from the main topic - sorry - but I don't think WMC uses
DigiGuide data (at least - it never used to). BDS was (and still is?)
the original supplier to MS.
 
 Oh, it was Microsoft who told me that they sourced all their data from
there.  Either way, it doesn't use the broadcast guide, the one with the
protection.
 
WMC started using the broadcast EPG with Freeview when the Vista 'TV
pack' update came out. Using a live EPG was a requirement of getting the
Freeview+ certification IIRC. 

On DSAT I'm fairly sure it follows the EIT now/next info but does not
populate the full guide with it, as it usually records programmes
correctly that have started late/overrun due to sports events.

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RE: [backstage] BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-02-09 Thread Gareth Davis
Christopher Woods wrote:
 
 I've noticed that for some reason blend deinterlacing is 
 still being used on all BBC Video footage (iPlayer, inline 
 footage on News/Sports sites, etc).

Can you confirm if you are seeing the same problem on World Service
footage? You can reach our two TV channels at bbcarabic.com/tv and
bbcpersian.com/tv, although Persian does not come on air until early
afternoon. Can you also compare them against clips elsewhere on the
Arabic/Persian sites? They are ingested using a different workflow and
so are processed in a different way.

 
 So, in the absence of any known point of contact for the bods 
 in charge of digitisation across the BBC's online platforms, 
 can someone advise me as to whom I should be addressing my 
 angry letters and suggestions for improvement? ;)
 

The links from http://www.bbc.co.uk/help/about/technical_fault.shtml are
probably your best bet. It might take a while for the feedback to work
through Capita, but World Service iPlayer feedback does reach my team
eventually so I know the forms do work.

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RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?

2009-12-01 Thread Gareth Davis
There is a complete list of links in WMA and Real to all of our English
output here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/institutional/2009/10/091029_internetr
adiomobilelinks.shtml

Live streams are also available in Shoutcast/MP3 additionally.

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 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Gordon Joly
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 Subject: Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
 
 
 
 FYI
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/realmedia/live/localradio/london.ram
 
 Gordo
 
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RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-18 Thread Gareth Davis
Brian Butterworth wrote: 

 Once again, Freeview+ is the PVR, Freeview HD is the HD service 

As an aside, the two types of Freesat receiver we have in the office are
marked Freesat HD and Freesat+. But the Freesat+ box does HD as well as
PVR.
 
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RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-18 Thread Gareth Davis

Brian Butterworth wrote:
 I thought we were talking about FreeVIEW HD.  Freesat is named the
same, Freesat+ is the PVR, Freesat HD is the HD service, Freesat+ HD is
the PVR with HD 

We were talking about Freeview, however if it follows the same
conventions as Freesat then Freeview+ can mean HD too.

The Humax Freesat HD PVR is branded Freesat+, see here: 
http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/product_stb_satellite_foxsathdr.
asp

As are the Panasonic HD recorders:
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/Products/DVD+Recorders+%26+Players
/DIGA+DVD+Recorders/DMR-XS350/Overview/2359654/index.html

I've yet to see a device branded Freesat+ HD, and I've not seen it
mentioned in any publicity.
 
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RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Gareth Davis
Ant Miller wrote:

 Freeview and freeview+ (as the DVB-T2 carried HD mux is to be 
 called) will exist in parallel- the number of muxes will drop 
 from 6 to 5, one will go to DVB-t2, the other 4 will up their 
 capacity with a little tweak and reshuffled channels from the 
 flipped mux will be shared around them.  

And the shuffling starts at the end of this month. Everyone will need to
rescan their Freeview STBs and IDTVs on the 30th September.

More details here: 
http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/Resolutions/About-Channels/Retuning/F
reeview-national-retune-30-September-2009
... which also suggests Freeview HD in London from December this year. 

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RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Gareth Davis
Frankie,
I can't speak for the domestic BBC, but no online World Service content
is transcoded from broadcast transport streams. All our radio comes
straight out of the audio router at Bush House into our encoders, with a
touch of limiting applied to prevent clipping if an SM/self-op goes over
PPM 6. Persian and Arabic TV are encoded directly from the uncompressed
SDI feeds. So there isn't any potential loss of quality with this
approach.
 
We also run strictly to the clock, so automated capture works for us.
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[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Frankie Roberto
Sent: 10 September 2009 13:19
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast
rather than master tapes


Hi all,

Apologies if this has been answered before, but is there any
reason why the BBC iPlayer seems to only encode programmes from the live
broadcast stream, rather than, say, using the actual master
tapes/digital files?  Sure, it might be simpler, but long-term it'd be
great to use the original source.

Some reasons for doing so:

* occasionally the live broadcast has errors (eg loss of signal,
or playout error)
* you could trim the programmes more precisely - no more having
to skip the last few minutes of previous programme
* no more credit squeezes and continuity announcements
trailing programmes that you can't actually watch
* you could even produce a slightly different edit of a TV show
- for example, with dramas like Doctor Who you wouldn't have text at the
end saying Next week...

Are there any plans for this? Seems like it'd be the obvious
next step in improving the user experience of iPlayer...

Frankie

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RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?

2009-09-08 Thread Gareth Davis
Andrew,
World Service is a bit more complicated:
 
WS English was the first BBC Radio channel to offer a live AAC stream
without having to sign up to a beta. This was available from
http://bbcworldservice.com/ initially, and more recently from iPlayer
after some technical issues with the integration were resolved. BBC
Arabic, BBC Russian also offer full time AAC live streams currently. 
 
In terms of on-demands: BBC Brasil was the first BBC Radio station to
offer AAC on-demand, followed by BBC Vietnamese, BBC Urdu, WS English,
BBC Mundo, BBC Russian, BBC Arabic BBC Hindi and BBC Turkish. The
remainder of the 33 languages will get live and on-demand AAC as the
sites and infrastructure are updated over the coming months.
 
In addition we also provide Shoutcast MP3 at 32Kbps of our English,
Arabic and Russian live streams for mobile use. We are looking into
expanding this into more live streams and an on-demand service in the
future, but no firm dates as yet.
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From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of
adancy+backst...@gmail.com
Sent: 08 September 2009 10:23
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone
missing?


So a fair summary for what's happening with radio would be as
follows:
 
Local Radio - changing from Real to WMA for the low bitrate
option
Network Radio - staying as is, although presumably with WMA
being added eventually as per previous comments on BBC blogs
World Service - staying as is, but with the future addition of
AAC
 
Ironically, since Friday a number of the previously missing
RealAudio programme streams appear to have come alive again! Presumably
this is just their last swansong before they are sent to the great
/dev/null in the sky...
 
Andrew



From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of John O'Donovan

Hi Andrew,
 
generally these streams won't be available as RealAudio in the
future. As you will no doubt have seen, the BBC is reducing it's
dependency on Real Media as a delivery mechanism, though it will still
be supported.
 
Coyopa was designed to meet the needs of centralised National
Radio rather than Local Radio and the distribution problems, source
quality and encoding issues for Local Radio are very different,
complicated and expensive to develop. Local Radio is still dependent on
gathering the streams through a variety of methods and encoding at an
aggregation point, and this aggregation point is at capacity at the
moment.
 
Cheers,
 
jod

 






RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?

2009-09-07 Thread Gareth Davis
FWIW: The BBC World Service has no plans to drop Real or Windows Media
support on any of it's language services. The narrowband services are
still valuable to our listeners around the world, and our relatively
modern infrastructure means its no more difficult for us to stream a
megabyte of Real than it is the stream a megabyte of Windows Media or
AAC. We will continue to roll out AAC support to the remaining language
sites as they are being refreshed, retaining the Real and Windows Media
support as we go.

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[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of John O'Donovan
Sent: 07 September 2009 00:39
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone
missing?


Hi Andrew,
 
generally these streams won't be available as RealAudio in the
future. As you will no doubt have seen, the BBC is reducing it's
dependency on Real Media as a delivery mechanism, though it will still
be supported.
 
Coyopa was designed to meet the needs of centralised National
Radio rather than Local Radio and the distribution problems, source
quality and encoding issues for Local Radio are very different,
complicated and expensive to develop. Local Radio is still dependent on
gathering the streams through a variety of methods and encoding at an
aggregation point, and this aggregation point is at capacity at the
moment.
 
Cheers,
 
jod



From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of
adancy+backst...@gmail.com
Sent: 04 September 2009 16:50
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone
missing?


Can someone from the Beeb clarify that the Windows streams will
be *instead* of Real, as the implication of that article (and also a
number of blog comments from James Cridland in the past) was that
Windows Media streams would be in *addition* to the existing streams.
From what I understand one of the big reasons behind the Coyopa project
was that it's relatively easy for you to produce the same audio in
multiple formats, so it seems a bit odd that you're replacing one format
with another.
 
Certainly there's still demand for RealAudio - I'm regularly
seeing several hundred people a day using the RealAudio listen again
links and widgets on my site, and I'm pretty sure other similar sites
like Beebotron must have the same if not greater traffic for their
RealAudio links. 
 
It's a particular problem with internet radios and mobile
devices, as many of them don't support the AAC format you're now using
for live streams and can't access the MP3 files you're now using for
local radio Listen Again due to the content delivery system completely
obsfuscating the URLs.
 
Andrew Dancy
www.iplayerconverter.co.uk http://www.iplayerconverter.co.uk  
 
(apologies if this appears twice - fun and games with gmail and
their silly 'on behalf of' header)
 


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[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Gavin Johnson
Sent: 04 September 2009 14:42
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone
missing?


Ok so it turns out that a dual bitrate option will continue to
be available, but in Windows rather than Real. So that link is
temporarily broken while things are being moved around. There's some
useful background here.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/08/improvements_to_bbc_local
_radi.html

On 04/09/2009 13:50, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk
wrote:



As of Tuesday there is no longer a dual bitrate option.
It looks like iplayer haven't caught up. Thanks for noticing, I'll give
someone a nudge about getting the link removed.

Gavin

On 04/09/2009 12:43, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com
wrote:



What has happened to the RealAudio feeds of the
local radio (BBC London in particular) Listen Again content?

As an example

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0046fbf/Danny_Baker_03_09_2009/
choose the pop-out player

RE: [backstage] Fwd: [Autonomo.us] Skype, out?

2009-08-06 Thread Gareth Davis
Wouldn't be the first set top box to run BBC Basic. 
 
Many years ago I did some development for the KIT platform that used
Pace DSL 4000 boxes. These were based on the Acorn Risc PC and could be
given a *BASIC command to drop them into BBC Basic V.  
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[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 06 August 2009 14:22
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Autonomo.us] Skype, out?


Actually, I would be right up for writing a BBC Basic
interpreter for set-top boxes.  Probably have to have some MHEG5-type
interface, but the idea is quite workable.   

Not sure about how to make it support XML yet...


2009/8/6 John Styles hpeng...@gmail.com


 How about a BBC Micro 2012 Edition...?  FMT need
another impossible tech project.  Be more exciting than Bang Goes The
Theory.


Funnily enough I was thinking about the same thing a
couple of days
ago, somehow I fear that devices conforming to the
Canvas Project
specification won't have some sort of BBC Basic built
in!

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RE: [backstage] 1Xtra, Radio1 and Radio 4 currently off-air on iPlayer landing page for a few minutes?

2009-03-02 Thread Gareth Davis
It's a known problem. The iPlayer schedule for each radio station has
'holes' in it where no programme is being encoded. Currently iPlayer
can't tell the difference between this hole being a gap between
programmes, or because the station is not on air. 

A fix is due soon for this.

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 -Original Message-
 From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of 
 Christopher Woods
 Sent: 01 March 2009 19:07
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: [backstage] 1Xtra, Radio1 and Radio 4 currently 
 off-air on iPlayer landing page for a few minutes?
 
 How come they sometimes show this? (like they were just 
 around 7pm) The TV-Anytime XML feeds have listings but the 
 iPlayer front page wasn't showing them correctly. However, 
 upon reloading the page a couple of minutes later, it was 
 fine. Each station's respective pages on the iPlayer site 
 showed correct now playing information.
 
 Was I just unlucky enough to catch the page during the o' 
 clock changeover?
 
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RE: [backstage] Make the primary operating system used in state schools free and open source

2009-02-10 Thread Gareth Davis
Something not being discussed, is that there can be any amount of take
up of open source platforms within a school - you don't have to go 100%.

Way back in my sixth form days (1996) between the Head of Learning
Resources, a former student who was now at university and myself - we
replaced the ageing Econet/SJ MDFS network with Ethernet and Slackware
Linux fileservers over a period of several months. The Acorn Archimedes
and Risc PC boxes all had Omniclient to NFS mount the Linux filestores,
and the Win 3.1/95 PCs used Samba. The Linux boxes also provided the
usual central network services such as DNS, DHCP, email and a proxy
server to allow internet access. Later we managed to convince the local
cable TV company to give us a 2Mbps/G703 circuit between us and the
local university for next to nothing to replace the ISDN line coming out
of one of the servers.

With the central infrastructure changed it really didn't matter what the
machines ran. At the time it made sense that the rooms teaching
vocational courses used Windows OS and Microsoft applications, and other
areas could continue to use the Acorn machines as the software was
perfectly up to the job. If you could format a document in say,
Impression Publisher on an Acorn, then using Microsoft Word or
Wordperfect on a PC afterwards really wasn't a big learning curve.
Although some of the Acorn Risc PCs did have Intel coprocessor cards so
could run Windows 95 as well as Risc OS. Quite what they are using now I
don't know, I expect Active Directory has made things a little more
complicated to maintain the single sign on environment we had set up
then.

Things have moved on in the last 12 years, but I think if Acorn were
still in existence then schools probably would still be using them, as
the skills are transferable - and the machines are designed to be used
in an classroom environment. But once they were no longer available
schools had a choice, either bring in another platform to teach
'transferable skills' (Mac, or PC/Linux), or get the PC/Windows platform
and teach the 'correct' skills first time. As has already been
mentioned, the knowledge of the staff has to be taken into account so
chances are PC/Windows was the comfortable choice. But schools have
already made a transition away from Risc OS to Windows, so another
transition may not be out of the question.

IMHO if the Linux environment was as well developed as it is today when
Acorn closed down, then I can see how a lot of schools could have moved
straight across. As it was common practise to teach 'transferable
skills' from a non Windows platform then. Now I think there would have
to be some very clear cut benefits to convince schools and parents that
it was a good idea.

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 From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mr I Forrester
 Sent: 09 February 2009 14:24
 To: BBC Backstage
 Subject: [backstage] Make the primary operating system used 
 in state schools free and open source
 
 Seen this in my mailbox a few times today, sure you will all 
 find this interesting...
 
 We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Make the 
 primary operating system used in state schools free and open source
 
 http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/nonMSschools/
 
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RE: [backstage] Make the primary OS used in state schools FOSS

2009-02-10 Thread Gareth Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Richard Smedley
 Sent: 09 February 2009 18:32
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: RE: [backstage] Make the primary OS used in state 
 schools FOSS

 PCs in schools are mandated to teach 
 curriculum areas - this can easily be delivered through 500 - 
 600 web apps. The whole curriculum.  A small investment from 
 government (less than 1% of the UK's annual school IT spend) 
 would get all of these apps written. Released under the GNU 
 GPL, they would be tweaked and improved by thousands of 
 teachers and students.
 

You mean like BBC Jam? Can't see how this idea wouldn't end up in the
European Court for the same reasons.

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RE: [backstage] Why the poor bitrates on World Service, Asian Network etc?

2009-02-05 Thread Gareth Davis
On 21 October 2008 21:15, Gareth Davis wrote:
 
 As it happens we will have completed migrating our radio and 
 on-demand playout to an external CDN when the schedules 
 change at the end of BST, so this solves the infrastructure 
 problem. Once we have the minor detail of launching Persian 
 TV out of the way, we will be looking at making additional 
 formats and bitrates available - but in a way that does not 
 affect those that still need the narrowband Real/Windows offerings.
 

Just in case you were wondering about this, we have now started rolling
out AAC+ across our on-demand offerings, the first bulletin to be
changed over is on the BBC Brasil site that was relaunched yesterday:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/portuguese/multimedia/2009/01/090128_radio_boletins
deradio.shtml

Over the coming months we will make all our on-demand, live streams and
embedded clips available in AAC+ in addition to Real and Windows media.

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RE: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?

2009-01-16 Thread Gareth Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Steve Bowbrick
 Sent: 16 January 2009 12:59
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: RE: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?
 
 Watchification.com uses the hacky way of embedding - when we 
 first started to embed (early 2008) various BBC folk told us 
 it was just a matter of time before it was officially allowed 
 but it looks like politics/rights issues etc. have held this up.

To add to that, I've been told one of the reasons we do not allow embed
on iPlayer (and on our news YouTube channels) is because the content
expires. So anyone who did embed the content in their pages would have a
broken link within a few days - which isn't a great user experience.

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RE: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed

2009-01-05 Thread Gareth Davis
 




From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of James Cridland
Sent: 31 December 2008 22:15
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed


On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Gareth Davis
gareth.da...@bbc.co.uk wrote:


It still still being made, just not for the tellybox :) 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/top_of_the_pops.shtml


So, why doesn't it appear in
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00704hg/upcoming

Surely it should - it's the same brand (owned by BBC ONE, but
you still broadcast a radio version)

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Technical answer is: We have quite a few English programmes that are not
broadcast on the World Service English for UK network, and as all
international networks are currently out of scope for /programmes, they
do not appear in /programmes or iPlayer.  
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RE: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed

2008-12-24 Thread Gareth Davis
It still still being made, just not for the tellybox :) 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/top_of_the_pops.shtml
 
(and it's nearly an hour long, must get someone to fix the page)
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[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Sam Mbale
Sent: 22 December 2008 23:40
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed


Another wish,if you may allow me. Bring back Top of the Pops. 

Happy holidays


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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Sam Mbale
smb...@mpelembe.net wrote:


Ian 

All I want for xmas is a BBC logo.

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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Mr I Forrester
mail...@cubicgarden.com wrote:


Ok so a little while back we kind of launched or
announced that we were
building out some of the core parts of the
backstage site into
ideas.welcomebackstage.com (please note the url
will change one day
soon).

ideas is based on the Ubuntu idea torrent
project and we're happy to be
supporting more free and open software projects.
And I'm even happier to
announce the submit your own ideas section is
now up and running for you
all to throw ideas at.

So go over to http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com,
signup and submit a
idea or two

The ideas can be pretty much anything from why
doesn't the BBC Recipe
section not have a RSS and a API to large scale
changes like enabling
BitTorrent support with the next version of
iPlayer. Feel free to go
into as much detail as you like but keep the
titles clear and readable.
This will hopefully insure when we show them to
people higher up the
chain they will actually read them.

Its also ok to resubmit ideas which have come up
before and were not
resolved in the way you felt they should have
been. I'm hoping
ideas.welcomebackstage's structured approach to
ideas will help with
getting official answers and proper sign off in
the future.

Cheers, comments and questions to us

Ian

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RE: [backstage] Why the poor bitrates on World Service, Asian Network etc?

2008-10-22 Thread Gareth Davis
Steve Jolly wrote:
 
 Brian Butterworth wrote:
  You could, perhaps, make high bitrate versions available to 
 platform 
  providers, with a limited number of feeds for the likes of 
 LiveStation 
  and Zattoo and the like.
 
 Intuitively, that strikes me as opening up *different* cans 
 of worms...
 

Other cans of worms are available as they say.

This isn't as daft as it sounds. I thought one of the World Service
radio stations was already on Livestation? Maybe I'm thinking of a
different platform, or maybe it was for a limited period. Either way, we
have a weekly reach of over 180 million listeners, when you add in the
audience from the BBC World News channel it gives the Global News
Division a weekly reach of well over a quarter of a billion people
across all platforms.

You don't get a reach like that by accident. We have a team of people
who's job it is to do the necessary deals to extend our reach as far and
wide as possible - whether just making the five minute bulletin
available on a partner station or making an entire network available on
an FM relay or emerging platform. Don't worry Brian, deals are being
done all the time. But I'm sure you can understand that these products
are not for public discussion here pre launch.

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RE: [backstage] Why the poor bitrates on World Service, Asian Network etc?

2008-10-21 Thread Gareth Davis
Christopher Woods wrote:
 This one's a late night, in-the-kitchen thought. I turned the 
 radio on while I was making a cup of tea and of course, after 
 R4 closedown the WS is simulcast. On FM, you get a wonderful, 
 crisp stereo feed. On DAB, the WS feed is fine when listening 
 to the Radio 4 simulcast, 128kbps stereo, but its own 
 dedicated slot is naff: a 64kbps mono stream. On the web, 
 it's even worse - only streamed at 32kbps WMA/RA. 
 AsianNetwork is 64kbps mono on DAB - even 5Live has a better 
 bitrate (80kbps mono).
 

I'm told some experiments were done a few years back on the DAB feed to
point R4 and WS at the same pool for the duration of the simulcast.
However it caused many models of DAB receiver around at the time to
crash either when the services were merged, or separated. This resulted
in lots of R4 people in BH cursing the World Service as they came into
work the next morning to find their office DAB radios had locked up :)

The web streams are something we are currently looking at, there are a
lot of things happening behind the scenes at the moment. But you can
expect some higher bitrates and new formats in the coming months. As
others have said, we are funded differently to the rest of BBC Radio and
have to offer our service in a way that offers benefits to all our
audience, wherever they may be in the world. So the model of using high
bitrates restricted just to the UK (so mainly peering traffic) is not
something that is appropriate for us to do. 

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RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-20 Thread Gareth Davis
 

Brian Butterworth wrote:


The whole Astra 2D thing is a bit of a red herring.  


The Television Without Frontiers directive  (89/552/EEC CHAPTER
II, Article 2) allows for any terrestrial channel to be broadcast via
satellite in Europe without encryption.   There is no legal requirement
for the broadcaster to use a tight beam. (*)
 

Are you sure you have quoted the right directive Brian? I can't find any
reference to terrestrial broadcasters. A brief summary of what section
II article 2 of TVWF says is: Member states must ensure that
broadcasters based within (or using satellite uplink or other
frequencies within) their jurisdiction must comply with local laws. Also
Member States are not allowed to block reception of other Member States'
broadcasts being transmitted into their territory, or being
retransmitted within their territory except under very special
circumstances (such as protection of children). 

Anyone interested in the original can download the language and format
of their choice here: 
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31989L0552:E
N:NOT  

My understanding of this (and IANAL) is that should a broadcaster
broadcast content outside the territory they have licensed the content
for, then they will be in breach of copyright or other laws in the
Member State of transmission. Chapter 2 Article 2 of TVWF says the
broadcaster must comply with the laws in the Member State of
transmission, and so the broadcaster has to be prosecuted for this
according to TVWF. So I don't see how TVWF would help a broadcaster
legally beam their content unencrypted into a territory they do not have
rights for.

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RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-17 Thread Gareth Davis
 Frank Wales wrote:
 Andrew Bowden wrote:
  Even for smaller channels, there are benefits to being encrypted, 
  such as reduced EPG listing fees.
 
 It costs less to tell people about your programmes if you 
 encrypt them?
 The reason being...?

The same company provides EPG and encryption services, so if you buy
both you get a discount. I don't know if this is still the case though,
it's been a good few years since I've been privy to the commercials of
running a Sky Digital channel.

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RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-17 Thread Gareth Davis

Brian Butterworth wrote:


Given there are no companies that have both unencrypted and
unencrypted channels on the EPG, it would still seem that rule is part
of Sky's contacts...


This is why, for example, Five can't just jump onto Freesat,
because it has to do Fiver and Five US at the same time!
 

I thought this was a simple case of capacity on Astra 2D. The rights
agreements signed for the content on the 'five' channels would prevent
it going FTA on the current transponders as they are on the 'south beam'
that covers most of Europe.
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RE: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming online in WMP any more?

2008-10-03 Thread Gareth Davis
If you do a 'view source' on the pop up player windows in Radio iPlayer
you'll see the URLs for Windows Media, Real and Flash streams all
embedded in the source code if they are available. 

The World Service has no plans to drop the narrowband Windows Media and
Real Media streams.

BTW: The two World Service streams you mention on your webpage are the
core news network that provides only news programming, and a second
network which is (currently) based roughly on the European English
network that provides a mixture of News, Documentary and Entertainment
programming minus any rights restricted content. The World Service
stream linked to from iPlayer is based on the schedule used on the UK
digital networks, and so is a third different stream of our content. We
know it is confusing, and we are working on it.

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 Christopher Woods
 Sent: 02 October 2008 15:30
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: [backstage] BBC News and other stuff not streaming 
 online in WMP any more?
 
 I used to use the WMP feeds of News 24 and the other BBC 
 stuff a _lot_ on my mobile device - yet a few weeks ago (and 
 ever since), when I tried to load the streams - either on a 
 PC or my mobile device - they now don't work. The News 24 
 stream just shows a static BBC News image for 10 seconds and 
 then stops, and a few of the other streams are having problems too...
 
 Has el Beeb abandoned their non-Flash streaming now, or are 
 the streaming links just buried away somewhere under a 
 different URL? I used to use the list I'd compiled on 
 http://3g.totallyowns.co.uk (cuz it does :P) but that's been 
 rendered somewhat useless to me in the interim if the 
 flippin' streams are just stopped without any prior warning. 
 My device plays Flash far worse than it does WMP (read: not 
 at all, unless it's embedded in a particular way into the 
 page, and it certainly can't handle realtime video streaming and
 decoding) :(
 
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RE: [backstage] Radio now playing feeds

2008-08-01 Thread Gareth Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael 
 Smethurst
 Sent: 01 August 2008 16:36
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: RE: [backstage] Radio now playing feeds
 
  the other issue is around our legal agreements with the music 
  industry around how much timing data we can give out for tracks 
  playing
 
 
  O RLY?
 
  Would you be kind enough to expand on what the issues are?  
 Unless you 
  can't
 give it out for legal reasons of course!
 
 yup, u got me. not legal reasons but complete lack of 
 expertise. sure other people are in a better position to answer...
 

My understanding that giving out frame perfect metadata on live music
streams is frowned upon as it gives stream ripping software a perfect
cue as to when to cut the audio into individual song files, and what to
name the cut files. Such software does exist, and I've seen it work very
well.

I don't know what the legal status of this is though, as I don't get to
deal with music rights that often where I work. But I was told the same
thing is Michael a while back by the sound of things. I know that other
restrictions surrounding streaming music have been relaxed recently
though, so this restriction may no longer be in place.

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RE: [backstage] So was *this* what Mr. Cridland was referring to recently?

2008-07-31 Thread Gareth Davis

Currently we're using old servers held together by string and
sealing wax, run on our behalf by Siemens, and being waited on hand and
foot by trained engineers to eke the very last amount of life out of
their tired motherboards. They use software from Digital Rapids:
http://www.digital-rapids.com/ http://www.digital-rapids.com/ 
 

Judging by the number of tickets I've seen raised for the boxes over the
last couple of weeks, James really isn't joking! 
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RE: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars

2008-07-04 Thread Gareth Davis
Anyone else find it strange that Richard Stallman feels it is apparently
unjust for Microsoft and others to publish software that users are not
free to share and modify, but it is ok to publish an article which
readers are not free to share and modify?

Just a thought.

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 Reynolds-FMT
 Sent: 04 July 2008 11:51
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars
 
 Hadn't noticed the CC licence - now that is good 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 04 July 2008 10:29
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars
 
 Fred Phillips wrote:
  On Fri Jul  4 08:39:26 2008, David wrote:
  ** It's not the Gates, it's the bars ** Richard Stallman, 
 founder of 
  the Free Software Foundation, on the departure of Bill Gates.
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm 
  
  Meh, doesn't really say anything new. It's good that free 
 software is 
  getting some exposure from the likes of the BBC, even if it is a 
  little hypocritical.
 
 True but look at the license for the article - how many 
 articles does the BBC News produce under a CC license?
 
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RE: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars

2008-07-04 Thread Gareth Davis
It uses CC-ND which only allows sharing with attribution, it does not
allow commercial reuse or you to 'alter, transform or build upon this
work'

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/
  

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 I thought the CC licence at the bottom allowed this. 
 

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RE: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars

2008-07-04 Thread Gareth Davis
Rob Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stallman believes that works of opinion are different from pieces of
software. He is concerned that arbitrary modifications of a work of
opinion could lead to misrepresentation, and he's not alone in that.
Software doesn't really have that problem, so he's right that they are
different. 

I don't agree with his conclusions on this particular issue, I'm just
trying to explain that his position is coherent.

Personally I don't agree with the conclusions either, but everyone is
entitled to their opinions.
 
I've no knowledge on Stallman philosophy on anything other than
software. It just jumped out the screen at me, that after the big long
article on freedom, you then get restrictions put on what you can do
with the article. I wouldn't have even considered it if the CC licence
had not been mentioned and the article was posted under the usual site
copyright terms. 
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RE: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars

2008-07-04 Thread Gareth Davis





On 04 July 2008 at 13:32 ,   Rob Mayers wrote: 
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Gareth Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


It uses CC-ND which only allows sharing with
attribution, it does not
allow commercial reuse or you to 'alter, transform or
build upon this
work'


ND does allow commercial use. NC-ND would prevent commercial
use.

He doesn't mention BY or the version. He should. Only the old
1.0 CC licences had a standalone ND.


ND is equivalent to the old one-line verbatim distribution
licence he used to use, and his reasons for doing so have to do with the
difference between source code and works of opinion.

- Rob.


I was just following the CC link posted in the news article, it states
no commercial use. Has the wrong version been linked?
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RE: [backstage] BBC begins DVB-T2 test transmissions in preparation for HD on Freeview

2008-06-27 Thread Gareth Davis
For those of you that missed the announcement:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2008/06_june/27/h
d.shtml
 
I'm sure someone down at KW will know chapter and verse on this, but
AFAIK there are no IDTVs currently on the market that will be compatible
with the test transmissions. Most HD IDTVs have only SD DVB decoders,
and the handful that do have HD decoders receive HD using MPEG2
compression over the usual DVB-T transport layer (as used elsewhere in
the world like Australia). 
 
Somewhere else in Europe does use h264 for DVB HD services (France
maybe?) but over standard DVB-T not DVB-T2. Guildford could be a world
first.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Barber
Sent: 27 June 2008 16:08
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] BBC begins DVB-T2 test transmissions in
preparation for HD on Freeview


Anyone had any luck picking this up? I have a HDTV with a
Freeview tuner, but have no idea if this is capable of picking up HD
over the air... is it ATSC? I'm unsure of the specifics.

--Matt




RE: [backstage] Nabaztags and BBC Radio...

2008-06-16 Thread Gareth Davis
I have one sat next to my desk now as it happens (actually a
Nabaztagtag), although ours is used mainly to announce problems picked
up by our Nagios system. It has been though a really bad period of
reliability earlier in the year, sometimes spending days unable to
contact the Nabaztag server. However the service has been much better in
recent weeks and the bunny has starting waving its ears before we get
the SMS in some cases.
 
I suspect RM and WMA streams are beyond it though. One of our partners
rebroadcasts a syndicated World Service schedule using mp3 over
Shoutcast so this should work if you substitute your serial (MAC
address) and API token (obtainable from the My Nabaztag portal):
 
http://api.nabaztag.com/vl/FR/api_stream.jsp?token=TOKENsn=SERIALurlLi
st=http://vprbbc.streamguys.net:80
 
And before anyone asks: We are also looking into alternative formats and
distribution methods over here at the World Service, in the same way
that James and his colleagues at AMI are looking at alternative formats
to the current Real and Windows offerings. MP3 or AAC over Shoutcast are
on the list of technologies we are considering, but we are a long way
from making any decisions on whether they are appropriate to develop
into a full service yet. 
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World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global
News Division
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Wong
Sent: 16 June 2008 15:09
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] Nabaztags and BBC Radio...


Just wondering, does anyone here have a Nabaztag, and have they
managed to get it broadcasting streams from BBC Radio, eg Radio 1 or 6
Music? 

Andrew, thinking of shopping for one... (this is NOT a BBC
endorsement of a French product, needless to say!)




RE: [backstage] Friday humour

2008-06-06 Thread Gareth Davis
What do you call a three legged donkey?

A wonky.


What do you call a three legged donkey with one eye?

A winky wonky.


What do you call a three legged donkey with one eye playing the piano?

A plinky plonky winky wonky.


Shall I continue? :)

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News Division
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 Subject: RE: [backstage] Friday humour
 
 Some of these jokes are terrible! :)
 
 
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 A skeleton walks into a bar.
 
 He says, I'll have a pint... and a mop
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RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-20 Thread Gareth Davis
 The only option then was really to use the NTL 
 analogue feed they put down the coax. Friendly engineer gave 
 us some F type ends and cable and we could at least get 1 to 
 4. And Sky one audio on the FM.

The old NYNEX FM hook up - that takes me back. It seemed amazing at the
time, to get stereo sound on some channels you could tune into them on
your FM radio instead. I didn't have a NICAM TV then, and NICAM support
was a bit hit and miss on the old Scientific Atlanta 8600 series boxes
anyway. And as an added bonus you got a cable exclusive station and a
few international stations thrown in too, like VOA and the BBC World
Service.  

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News Division
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RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-15 Thread Gareth Davis
What kit did the Beeb use, and what do they use now? (fascinated by the
choices in tech)
 
No idea about the rest of the BBC, but we do the TV Encoding with Osprey
540 cards in hp DL360G5 servers at Bush running Windows. Windows media
audio encoding is also done here at Bush house using Osprey 230 cards in
hp DL360G5 servers running Windows. We have our own bespoke software to
control the scheduling of clip encoding at Bush (using the Windows Media
and Real SDKs) and drop the content to Borg (the system that puts
content on our web/clip servers) or Akamai as appropriate.
 
Our Real encoding is done at Maidenhead by Siemens. IIRC on a load of
rather old Sun Netra servers with the scheduling controlled by cron.
There is another bespoke system called Bob that maintains the crontabs
on the boxes. Audio gets to MH from BU via a number of Intraplex cards
and E1 lines. The rest of the BBC radio encodes their Real files in
pretty much the same way, although they may get the audio to MH in
different ways. Since we are looking into delivering other formats
beyond Real and Windows we are in the process of evaluating the easiest
way to do this, so it is likely that things will be different for the
World Service in a years time. 
 
Also (off-topic slightly) does anybody know what kit the radio studios
use for the automatic level ducking when a DJ's speaking over the intro
/ tail of a track? I've seen what looks like a sidechaining compressor
in the background of some shots on programmes like Timelapse or suchlike
(where a DJ's being interviewed in the studio), but this assumption is
largely based on the visible LED activity on the front panel of the
device when the DJ's seen speaking in shot (sat next to the broadcast
mic at the desk). Unfortunately though the interesting stuff (the
hardware!) has always never been in focus so I've not been able to
identify the kit :( If someone knows someone who knows and can ask them,
that's also quite acceptable ;) 
 
We have these things called an SM. Most of the older studios come with
them, although they are less popular in newer studio builds but you can
sometimes share with another studio. And some of them react faster than
others to excessive volume levels judging by the level of the FARSA
network this morning :) 
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(with apologies to the Studio Managers before I get lynched in the bar
tomorrow)


RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Gareth Davis
Agreed about the quality. Since the service is not officially sanctioned
they are going to have to do the encoding 'off-air'. And a 3-4Mbps MPEG2
feed is not a good starting point for doing further compression from.
 
While I don't know what the channel formally known as News 24 does with
their video streams, we encode our live video for BBC Arabic directly
from a 270Mbps SDI feed of the network output.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Compston
Sent: 13 May 2008 19:05
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels


Moving away from the legal wrangles for a moment, I must say I'm
not too impressed with the quality of their streams...
Looking at my PC's network usage zattoo is using three times as
much bandwith (admittedly some will be upstream) than the FLV stream of
News 24 (sorry, News Channel) we're running tests on currently (beta
stream coming to news.bbc.co.uk soonish), but actually looks worse -
lots of blocking  buffering.
My PC is rather old, but the connection's not too bad - getting
around 5Mbps currently.

Rich.


On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Brian Butterworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The relevant part of the Copyrights and Patents Act 1988
(as Amended) is here:


http://www.jenkins.eu/copyright-(statutes)(1)/part-1-copyright-.asp#s73
http://www.jenkins.eu/copyright-%28statutes%29%281%29/part-1-copyright-
.asp#s73 

It all boils down to the definition of 'cable' and
're-transmission by cable'.  Interestingly the Act does not say
're-broadcast' by cable, it doesn't say it has to be in a partciular
format (DVB-S or analogue PAL, for example) and does not state that it
has to be a 'broadcast' (many to one) just a 're-tranmission'.  

It also says that 'ee-transmission by cable include the
transmission of microwave energy between terrestrial fixed points' which
seems to cover wireless internet in my book...


2008/5/13 Robin Cramp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 



From a user perspective viewing content in this
way is great, it provides another source of viewing; more importantly
online. I would think from a broadcaster perspective there is a sense of
split view on the subject. Broadcasting the stations as is gives them an
extra level of exposure, not to mention the advertisers too. Although
from a content owner perspective there is the age old issues about
copyright. I personally think that it will be the rights owners that
will have the biggest say in whether Zattoo should continue in their
current model, rather than the broadcasters pushing for change.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Barber
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 May 2008 14:35
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming
BBC channels


On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Brian
Butterworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://zattoo.com/


http://informitv.com/articles/2008/05/09/zattooclaimscopyright/

 Zattoo, which is now offering live online
streams of the leading British
 terrestrial television channels, is claiming
it has the right to do so under
 the United Kingdom Copyright Act. Zattoo says
it operates strictly
 legitimately on the basis of agreements with
broadcasters and the copyright
 law but the British broadcasters say they
have no agreements with the
 streaming startup company. The law seems
ambiguous at best.


Interesting stuff. I can see how retransmission
is a good thing but
only through the right channels - i.e. if I were
to provide content to
the BBC or ITV, I would like it to be
transmitted professionally and
with a good level of quality.

Any views on this?
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RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Gareth Davis
Brian Butterworth wrote:



If it were the MPEG2 feed and was digitally processed, it would be quite
simple to use the encoded frames and reduced the resolution and/or
bitrate.  At least in theory.  It looks like a
MPEG2-analogue-re-encode.

Digital transcoding from the transport stream is perfectly feasible -
it's how BBC Redux works. However by the time the video has got to this
stage a lot of the detail is lost, and any further compression will be
trying to compress the artefacts from the previous compression pass as
well as what's left of the real detail. 
 
Going via analogue it not necessarily a problem, depending on how it is
done. If it has gone anywhere near a composite video stage then it will
get trashed, as composite does seem to interact badly with most
compression systems - as composite is effectively a compressed format
itself. However full bandwidth analogue stages (like component) should
not cause the same effect.
 
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Does that mean a BBC News HD channel would be possible?   

Why would it be? SDI is the usual way we send SD digital audio and video
round the studios. The bitrate may be high, but it is still interlaced
SD resolution video. I can't remember the various different bandwidth
figures for HD SDI, and I can't be bothered digging through my training
notes from Wood Norton now - But I think they are measured in Gbps.
 
News have just done a technical refresh of their studios and AFAIK they
have not put any HD kit in. I've no idea if any will go in before we all
move into new studios in the new BHX in 2012.
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RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Gareth Davis




Christopher Woods wrote:
 
By BHX you mean Birmingham, right? (just doublechecking) And is
everything moving for News (studios AND live broadcast coordination, all
that stuff, and not just any one element of it?) Sorry if it's a stupid
question, but I've been following this story very inattentively, shame
on me. (One of the reasons I'm so interested is because it could also
work out nicely in my favour given my planned career path after I've
graduated next year). Is there anywhere where I can find a decent amount
of info about any planned move? (aside from the stuff rumbling around on
DS forums)
 
 

As others have already said BHX is the extension to London Broadcasting
House, apologies for the lapse into BBC TLAs. No idea what the site code
is for the Mailbox, if any does know then feel free to email me it -
because I can't find a list on Gateway :)
 
If you are interested in the construction of the new Broadcasting House,
the new home for BBC News and the World Service then there is a public
facing site here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadcastinghouse/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadcastinghouse/ 
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News Division
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RE: [backstage] Ashley Highfield leaves BBC (almost)

2008-04-16 Thread Gareth Davis
Peter Bowyer wrote:
 On 16/04/2008, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
It would be the first order of the day - a beanbag for all
staff and free beer in the meeting rooms.
 
 
 
  Last.fm has the ballpit (with webcams) and the BPI has the 
 free beer, I
   think that's reason enough for the Beeb to implement them 
 both as sensible
   employee-centric policies.
 
 Surely you'd want firemens' poles and slides like Google in 
 Switzerland??

Since you are in the advance party going to Manchester Ian, perhaps you
could have a word with the project team to make sure all of this is a
requirement for the new building :)

And if anyone is reading this from the W1 project Can we have some
slides in those big atriums going into the new BHX? Or maybe some kind
of gravity drop ride? News 24^H^HThe BBC News Channel would be so much
more entertaining being punctuated by screams of those taking the
'express lift' to reception :) 

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RE: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-15 Thread Gareth Davis
Brian,
It has been pointed out several times now that the problem is between
the home user and the ISP, not the ISP and the BBC/Akamai. Although it
might appear from a traceroute that there is nothing between your home
router and your ISP - there is, but the IP traffic is encapsulated and
passed within BTs ATM cloud so you cannot see it. It is the cost of
moving the encapsulated IP within this cloud between the home user and
the ISP where the problem is.
 
No amount of caching or proxying at the ISP end will help, because it is
outside the ATM cloud. If any caching were to be effective it would have
to work inside the cloud at exchange or regional level, and I'm not
aware of any technology that can read the ATM packets, decap the IP
packets from them, interpret the IP packets - then inject more packets
with correctly encapsulated and valid IP into the ATM cloud as a
response. All this would have to be at wire speed so as not to add
latency to all connections passing through the device. Without doing
this, there is no where else to put the proxy for it to be effective.
 
Anyone who thinks they can do this, go and build it. You stand to make a
vast amount of money installing them in every exchange.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 15 April 2008 17:14
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution


You are saying that the capacity on each individual ADSL line
here is the problem?  I really don't see that.  The STATED problem is
PAYING for the PIPES to backbone from BT.  If this isn't the problem,
then someone is lying.
 



RE: [backstage] DAB rollout...

2008-04-09 Thread Gareth Davis
Andrew Bowden wrote:
 
 However when you have sizable audience bases, it's extremely difficult
 just to turn something off because something better has come along
 because people don't want to go out and buy new equipment.  Such big
 switch-offs are rare

If we were to ditch everything and start again tomorrow I'm not
convinced we wouldn't be in the same situation. The multiplex operators
would take the same correct (from the shareholder's point of view)
commercial decisions to fit as many streams on a mux as possible. So
instead of getting 64K Mono MP2 station you will get 2 32K Mono AAC
stations. Would this be an improvement for the amount of hassle it would
cause?

 (last one I can think of was the 
 migration from VHF
 to UHF for TV signals which finally ended in the 1980s after UHF first
 launched in the 1960s)

Which released Band III, which was then available for use by DAB.

 
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RE: [backstage] DAB rollout...

2008-04-03 Thread Gareth Davis
Andrew Bowden wrote:
 You still have a Wavefinder?  Blimey.  I threw mine in the 
 bin in a fit
 of rage after it caused the signal to break up for about the twentith
 time in the space of 30 minutes.  That Wavefinder caused me so much
 stress and grief it was insane.
 

I still have one, I found most of the problems I had with it were down
to the rubbish power supply that come with it. After I chopped the power
lead in half and added a molex connector to power it from the 12v supply
inside the PC it behaved much better - rather than dropping out whenever
the blue LED came on and the extra current draw overloaded the rubbish
PSU. I suspect most of the surviving ones have had some kind of mod
involving the power supply.

The drivers stopped working when XP SP2 was released and Psion
terminated support at this point rather than rewrite the drivers - so if
you did keep your PC up to date it became useless then. But the old
drivers did start working again under Vista, which was a bit if a
surprise to me. 

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RE: [backstage] Is Freesat going to be HD only?

2008-03-27 Thread Gareth Davis
 

 Brian Butterworth wrote: 


On 27/03/2008, Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:45:52AM +0100, Brian
Butterworth wrote:
I have no idea why Sky do this.  Why on earth would
I want to watch the SD
version of a channel if I can watch it in HD.

I don't know exactly how the Sky system works, but
perhaps you want to
record it in SD to watch it on a TV which doesn't
support HD?

 
I can't see the logic in that.  If you have a HD box, you can
replay the HD content as SD.  But why would you buy a HD box if you
can't watch HD?
 
 
 
 

I do it fairly regularly. If you are short on disk space there is no
point recording an upscaled SD programme as HD. Granted if the
broadcaster using a Snell and Wilcox box to do the
deinterlace/upscale/reinterlace then it should look much better than the
same process done by the budget chipset in the Sky HD receiver - or even
the better chips (Faroujda etc.) you get in screens and AV receivers
these days.
 
I'd rather not be forced into recording and watching in 1080i, 576i
deinterlaced to 576p looks better on my system than 576i upscaled to
1080i. So I'd rather do that and save the disk space.
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RE: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Gareth Davis
 

Part of the problem is that what one person might hear and what
another person might hear is different.  Whilst I know some people who
can, personally I can't tell the difference between DAB Radio 2 and FM
Radio 2 broadcast via the same set.
 
Actually that's a lie.  I can.  FM is the one with the fuzz and
hiss.
 

I'm not one of the biggest fans of DAB for a number of reasons, but in a
lot of London you do get better reception of DAB than you do of the FM
networks.  I live in East London, in an old factory that has two very
big (maybe 100ft tall) water towers sticking out the top with a communal
FM aerial up the top of one of them. Unobstructed line of sight to
Crystal Palace, should give great reception in theory (barring some
multipath from the Docklands towers). The reality is that local pirate
activity tends to cause problems for near enough everything on the band,
and having such a high aerial makes matters worse. BBC London was
impossible to listen to on FM this morning, both from my cheap clock
radio and the proper tuner plugged in to the external aerial.
 
It is up to the individual what they prefer though, personally
compression artefacts on a stable signal are less intrusive to me than
having an artefact free signal being trashed by the beat of a nearby
pirate station fading in and out. Although given the choice between a
poor FM signal and a poor DAB signal I'd just turn the radio off as DAB
does not degrade gracefully.
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RE: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Gareth Davis
 Anyhow, personally I'm stuck until I can get a non-DRM HD 
 signal into my Linux
 Myth PVR.

BBC HD is broadcast in the clear on Astra 2D (28.2E) at 10.847Ghz V
22000SR 5/6FEC, I'm pretty sure it is still broadcast as DVB-S (rather
then DVB-S2 like the Sky HD channels) so a normal DVB-S card and a dish
set up for Sky Digital should do the job.

I'll warn you that a lot of processing power is required to decode the
H264 profile in real time. When the BBC were doing the HD DVB-T trials
across London I had a go at trying to pick it up, and found that my 3Ghz
P4 machine could only managed about 14 fps.

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RE: [backstage] iPlayer, DRM, Free Software and the iPhone

2008-03-11 Thread Gareth Davis
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hannen
 Sent: 11 March 2008 00:20
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer, DRM, Free Software and the iPhone
 
 My mum too - she keeps telling me that I should encourage the BBC to
 use fewer DRM restrictions... All the time...
 
 On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Sean DALY 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My mother hates unnecessary technical complications (she finds
   computers and gadgets are complicated enough as it is) and 
 DRM  falls
   right into that category :-)
 

Mine once asked me why the telly goes off when she presses the red
button.

She's learnt to use the cable remote now though :)

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RE: [backstage] Last.fm for television

2008-01-28 Thread Gareth Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Bowyer
 Sent: 28 January 2008 13:48
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [backstage] Last.fm for television
 
 On 28/01/2008, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I presume that a TV version of last.fm would be last.uhf?
 
 last.am would be more consistent, if slightly confusing.
 
 Peter
 (who hates mixing frequency ranges and modulation types when
 describing RF transmissions)

Unless it's DTT, in which case it's last.qam

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RE: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]

2008-01-07 Thread Gareth Davis

David Greaves wrote:
[snip]
 
 And it still doesn't excuse the front page dynamic links 
 being 'gamed' to point
 to a years old piece. I expect 'most emailed' to be limited 
 to stories from the
 last few days.
 

Would that be the goat?

It was discussed here -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/adam_curtis/
And followed up - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6619983.stm

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RE: [backstage] Interesting iPlayer news

2007-12-31 Thread Gareth Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch
 Sent: 24 December 2007 11:53
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [backstage] Interesting iPlayer news
 
 Ah, sorry, I could have been clearer - While I can see Strictly (and
 the rest) listed on bbc.co.uk/iplayer, none of the video clips are
 available to play here. They're apparently being served from a
 non-bbc.co.uk domain, therefore are unavailable on The Cloud - unless
 I pay.
 

Looks like we need to look into this from the World Service. Only
narrowband real media is served from bbc.co.uk servers, the other
formats are served from the Akamai network. Chances are that this
problem also applies to the majority of our streamed/on-demand content
too.

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RE: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Gareth Davis
The Solaris 10 11/06 machine sitting on my desk is also playing the
streams.
All it needed was the flash plugin downloading from Adobe.

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glyn Wintle
 Sent: 13 December 2007 13:14
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live
 
 It does work on my Ubuntu. Adobe Flash Player 9
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:16:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live
 
 Nice to see the BBC have made sure that it doesn't run on Linux, or at
 least it doesn't run on this version. I get a nice blank grey screen.
 
 And a mouse hand with no indication of what it does.
 Clicking it informs me I have to enter into a legally binding
  contract[1].
 A contract that states if I want to use a tablet I have to also buy
 Windows XP. (it lists a specific version I must have).
 How is it in the least bit cross platform if I have to enter into a
 contract that says I have to use WindowsXP?
 It also states the software can only be used on a PC, so what are Mac
 users meant to do? (aside from breach contract).
 
 This is a complete sham. With the contract for the software needed to
 access the content it works on very few platforms. And oddly it won't
 work on other implementations of Flash.
 
 How about using a non-Windows streaming solution? Or is the plan to
 try and trick the Trust into believing that software that states PC
 only, and Tablet PCs must run WinXP is cross platform?
 
 [1] http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/players/flash/
 
 Andy
 
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RE: [backstage] RSS feed for emergency information

2007-11-14 Thread Gareth Davis
A number of feeds are available from www.communitysafe.gov.uk covering Central 
London and Tower Hamlets. 
 
For example http://communitysafe.gov.uk/channels/13-westminster-urgent.atom 
will give you major incidents in the Westminster area.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason 
Cartwright
Sent: 14 November 2007 09:38
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feed for emergency information


There is none...
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:london-fire.gov.uk+rss

But there is some interesting talk of web service use...
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:london-fire.gov.uk+xml

J


On 14/11/2007, ~:'' ありがとうございました。  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  wrote: 

RSS feed for emergency information

http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/news/latest_incidents.asp
is a primary resource for current incidents within London.

It seem obvious that this should be available as an RSS feed, 
but
where is it?

regards 

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Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet



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RE: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again

2007-11-05 Thread Gareth Davis
The Windows community is patiently waiting for the Vista version of
course :)
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden
Sent: 05 November 2007 14:58
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again


I always hate that term community in this sense - because not
all Linux users are the same after all.  And I've seen plenty of Mac
fans do similar things (usually when someone is critising their
beloved Apple!)
 
Anyway, where's the Windows community in all this ;)




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
Sent: 05 November 2007 14:50
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again



 
And it appears the Linux community has managed to ignore
what he has to say and has organised a let's shout him down louder and
louder until someone takes some notice of us party.
 
No positive suggestions, just bleat bleat bleat we hate
you...  As ever.
 
Cheers,
 
R.


Ashley has posted an update:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2007/11/linux_figures_1.html





RE: [backstage] Thoughts from a previous BBC employee

2007-10-11 Thread Gareth Davis
On 11/10/2007, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/10/2007, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
  And what bugs me is when companies Microsoft (and the rest) deal
with
  the BBC (e.g. when the BBC included a BBC channel in the release
of
  IE4) and not the commercial arm (BBC Worldwide).
 
  And somebody paid for the server farm in New York for BBC News
  Online, and I don't think it was the licence fee, since that could
  not be justified, could it?

 no, iirc that investment came from World Serivice (funded by Grant In
 Aid from the Foriegn Office), since international news was under the
 perview of World Service rather than BBC Worldwide.

 The Foreign Office refused to continue this arrangement cos it
 prefered World Service to focus on BBC Arabic TV / Farsi  -  hence the
 adverts on BBC.com debate.

And THNY closed as a server farm last month. It is now only a point of 
presence for peering with the BBC. All content is either served from
London
or from CDN partners.

 
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RE: [backstage] Windows Media Center - BBC News works on XP MCE but not on Vista?

2007-08-17 Thread Gareth Davis
I've just tried it on our Vista machine and it runs fine. 
 
The machine was only built a couple of weeks ago, so it is virtually a
clean build of Vista Ultimate with updates applied.
 
Sorry I can't be more help, we don't have anything to do with that app
over here at Bush House.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 16 August 2007 17:35
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] Windows Media Center - BBC News works on XP MCE but
not on Vista?


It might be me...
 
I tried using the Windows XP Media Center Edition's BBC News application
last week and it worked fine (apart from crashing the XBox 360's
extender software...) but the same application only lists the RSS feeds
as a menu under Vista's Media Center, the videos do not work. 
 
Is this a feature?  Or is it just me (and my four Vista
installations...)?
 
Brian Butterworth


RE: [backstage] iPlayer Today?

2007-07-30 Thread Gareth Davis
On 7/29/07, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

[snip]
  Must be full moon soon.

There really was a full moon last night, although reports of Ian
becoming a Werewolf are apparently wide of the mark :)

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