RE: [backstage] BBC launches a Homepage that validates!!!
On 2 Feb 2007, at 11:15, Brian Butterworth wrote: If you have a widescreen TV and you havn't gone into the menus to set the output format to 16:9 then everyone is simply going to look fat and you're missing the pictures. What was the point of buying a widescreen TV if you don't actually use it? Please email me back if you need any more help. I'm not quite sure you understood my point. I'm not missing any pictures I was pointing out how small the clock is on the News24 compared to how it was 2 weeks ago. But for the record my TV is set to 16:9. Perhaps it's time to buy a bigger TV? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 04/02/2007 01:30 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.25/669 - Release Date: 04/02/2007 21:58 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC launches a Homepage that validates!!!
I'll have to look into the meta tag. Given we're not serving the file as that mime type, changing it will probably upset someone else. But definitely give it due consideration. The W3C recommends that you *should* serve XHTML as application/xhtml+xml, but you *may* serve it as text/html if you follow the HTML Compatibility Guidelines (which we do). http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-media-types/#summary. Odd things start happening when you serve XHTML as application/xhtml+xml, including - firefox doesn't support incremental loading of XML documents yet: http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/faq.html#accept - if the client is not a validating parser it may not expand character entity references like copy; and deg; as these are declared in the DTD. - IE doesn't understand (because it doesn't want to do it if it can't do it properly: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx) Kevin. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC launches a Homepage that validates!!!
On 2/1/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for doing a good job here, Thankfully Auntie is leading the way in this area cough Other media sites have been validating correctly long before the BBC. (Though I note to my shame that the one I'm in charge of, which was validating, is no longer doing so. Bah. I blame the developers. 4 tiddly errors. They'll be fixed on Monday.) The BBC is hardy leading the way. Not to say that this is very welcome, of course. Well done, BBC. Now - the Radio 1 site has 60 errors, and BBC News has 154, so... yikes. Someone's in a job for a while, then. -- http://james.cridland.net/
Re: [backstage] BBC launches a Homepage that validates!!!
On 2 Feb 2007, at 11:15, Brian Butterworth wrote: If you have a widescreen TV and you havn't gone into the menus to set the output format to 16:9 then everyone is simply going to look fat and you're missing the pictures. What was the point of buying a widescreen TV if you don't actually use it? Please email me back if you need any more help. I'm not quite sure you understood my point. I'm not missing any pictures I was pointing out how small the clock is on the News24 compared to how it was 2 weeks ago. But for the record my TV is set to 16:9. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC launches a Homepage that validates!!!
Sorry about the 404's, fixed now. Weirdly one of them worked in a browser. I'll have to look into the meta tag. Given we're not serving the file as that mime type, changing it will probably upset someone else. But definitely give it due consideration. Thanks :-) nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Miller Sent: 01 February 2007 21:12 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC launches a Homepage that validates!!! Total validator ( http://www.totalvalidator.com/validator/ValidatorForm ) appears to be happy with the page now, however it does report 3 errors. Two of these are down to broken links, the BBC Trust page and the reception page, which both 404, so thats something that'll need a quick fix. The remaining error is; * The 'content' attribute should have a value of 'application/xhtml+xml' for XHTML:* meta http-equiv=Content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 / W3C validator, which was no doubt tested has no errors. Looks good though! Ian Forrester wrote: Hi All, Between all the debate about DRM, iPlayer and the PSP document. I'm proud to say, the BBC got its act together and produced the first Homepage which validates to the XHTML 1.0 Strict standard. Hopefully this shows our true commitment to standards, which will influence more parts of the BBC to follow suite into the XHTML world. Nick Holmes has wrote up a great piece explaining why and how, which I highly recommend reading - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_launches_a.html The team are interested in your reactions and feedback. So keep it clean and structured :) Cheers, Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ All new Yahoo! Mail The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use. - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC launches a Homepage that validates!!!
(snip) Can you have a word with the News 24 team about the new clock format [1] they should revert it back to the old format[2] I could see that one. [1] New Clock Format - http://www.flickr.com/photos/simplified/ 376885495/ [2] Old Clock Format - http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlpalmerhull/ 317068054/ No, they should not. It points out to people with widescreen TVs that they havn't set their Freeview (or Sky Digiboxes) up properly. If you have a widescreen TV and you havn't gone into the menus to set the output format to 16:9 then everyone is simply going to look fat and you're missing the pictures. What was the point of buying a widescreen TV if you don't actually use it? http://www.ukfree.tv/helpme.php?faqid=7 Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.17/661 - Release Date: 30/01/2007 23:30 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] BBC launches a Homepage that validates!!!
Hi All, Between all the debate about DRM, iPlayer and the PSP document. I'm proud to say, the BBC got its act together and produced the first Homepage which validates to the XHTML 1.0 Strict standard. Hopefully this shows our true commitment to standards, which will influence more parts of the BBC to follow suite into the XHTML world. Nick Holmes has wrote up a great piece explaining why and how, which I highly recommend reading - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_launches_a.html The team are interested in your reactions and feedback. So keep it clean and structured :) Cheers, Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC launches a Homepage that validates!!!
Thank you for doing a good job here, Thankfully Auntie is leading the way in this area, now that's done, it can be used as a preident to move and adhere to open standards in all the BBCs online activities. Once the whole of *.bbc.co.uk/* validates, perhaps you can standrdise on multimedia formats as well (Ogg audio anyone?). On 01/02/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Between all the debate about DRM, iPlayer and the PSP document. I'm proud to say, the BBC got its act together and produced the first Homepage which validates to the XHTML 1.0 Strict standard. Hopefully this shows our true commitment to standards, which will influence more parts of the BBC to follow suite into the XHTML world. Nick Holmes has wrote up a great piece explaining why and how, which I highly recommend reading - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_launches_a.html The team are interested in your reactions and feedback. So keep it clean and structured :) Cheers, Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
