Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-30 Thread Gordon Joly
At 11:23 + 29/10/07, Frank Wales wrote: Gordon Joly wrote: How about Google? It's not directly open-source, but it's built on top of Linux, which is. I can't see Google releasing their source code, or their search algorithms... My point was that Linux is widely used as an enabling

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-29 Thread Frank Wales
Gordon Joly wrote: >> How about Google? It's not directly open-source, but it's >> built on top of Linux, which is. > > I can't see Google releasing their source code, or their search > algorithms... My point was that Linux is widely used as an enabling technology in things that are ostensibly

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-29 Thread Jason Cartwright
http://code.google.com/oss.html http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html Not all of it, of course. J On 27/10/2007, Gordon Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 09:27 +0100 25/10/07, Frank Wales wrote: > > > > > > >How about Google? It's not directly open-source, but it's > > built on

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-27 Thread vijay chopra
On 27/10/2007, Gordon Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Media Wiki (it's not just for Wikipedia) > > > I know. I run at least four wikis using Mediawiki > > Gordo Out of interest, why did you choose MediaWiki out of all the Wiki engines out there? Recently I've been looking at Wiki te

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-27 Thread Gordon Joly
Media Wiki (it's not just for Wikipedia) I know. I run at least four wikis using Mediawiki Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archiv

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-27 Thread Gordon Joly
At 09:27 +0100 25/10/07, Frank Wales wrote: How about Google? It's not directly open-source, but it's built on top of Linux, which is. Frank, I can't see Google releasing their source code, or their search algorithms... Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-25 Thread Michael Sparks
On Thursday 25 October 2007 08:34, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 wrote: > the most significant issue is that no open source project outside   > possibly wikipedia is truly popular. I'd hardly say that the internet, email, web, DNS & etc are hardly not mainstream and not popular. It's next to impossible to use

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-25 Thread vijay chopra
On 25/10/2007, "~:'' ありがとうございました。" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, > > > the most significant issue is that no open source project outside > possibly wikipedia is truly popular. > NB wikipedia is not an application or tool. That would explain the unpopularity of a LAMP development envionment

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-25 Thread Adam
~:'' wrote: where are the easy-to-use tools? Ubuntu and Gnome are hardly mainstream... the most significant issue is that no open source project outside possibly wikipedia is truly popular. NB wikipedia is not an application or tool. First, there are thousands of open source pro

RE: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-25 Thread Darren Stephens
25, 2007 8:34 AM > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open > Source > Consortium > > David, > > my apologies as it seems that once again my comments lack some clarity. > > where are the easy-to-use tools?

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-25 Thread Frank Wales
~:'' ありがとうございました。 wrote: > where are the easy-to-use tools? > Ubuntu and Gnome are hardly mainstream... By 'mainstream', do you mean 'commonplace among computer users' or 'commonplace among the general public'? Also, are you conceding that Ubuntu and Gnome are easy to use? > the most significant

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-25 Thread David Greaves
~:'' wrote: > David, > > my apologies as it seems that once again my comments lack some clarity. > > where are the easy-to-use tools? > Ubuntu and Gnome are hardly mainstream... > > the most significant issue is that no open source project outside > possibly wikipedia is truly popul

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-25 Thread Andy Leighton
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 08:34:05AM +0100, "~:'' " wrote: > David, > > my apologies as it seems that once again my comments lack some clarity. > > where are the easy-to-use tools? > Ubuntu and Gnome are hardly mainstream... You seem very confused. E

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-25 Thread ~:'' ありがとうございました 。
David, my apologies as it seems that once again my comments lack some clarity. where are the easy-to-use tools? Ubuntu and Gnome are hardly mainstream... the most significant issue is that no open source project outside possibly wikipedia is truly popular. NB wikipedia is not an application

Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-24 Thread David McBride
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Re: [backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-24 Thread ~:'' ありがとうございました 。
Ian, the unfortunate fact is that open source is not above or beyond this type of controversy. ie who funds the developers? who are they developing for? in many cases developers: have little or no understanding of a 'public' audience. actively refrain from user testing. encourage feature cre

[backstage] An interview with Mark Taylor, Pres. of UK Open Source Consortium

2007-10-24 Thread Ian Forrester
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071021231933899 Maybe of interest? Mark Taylor: My first personal, emotional reaction was frankly, I was stunned. And it's back to this 'Auntie' analogy. As I said before, the perception of the BBC from childhood right up to adulthood is 'Everybody's A