Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-12 Thread Ant Miller
One last snippet, our Erik in his keynote yesterday ponted out that iPlayer is currently delivering 23 diferent formats for diferent devices! 23! It's actually a real challenge to get all of those done and it's expensive too, and I think he'd be keen for a greater standardisation in viewing

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-12 Thread Frank Wales
Ant Miller wrote: If you've got ideas and suggestions for improvement, or any further questions, I'd be happy to pass them along to the team. Completely geeky one: make iplayer.bbc.co.uk do something sensible. -- Frank Wales [fr...@limov.com] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-11 Thread Frankie Roberto
Hi Ant, Thanks for the update. I'm not sure I 100% follow, but it's good to know that this kind of stuff is being thought about and constantly improved upon at the BBC. It's amazing how BBC iPlayer has become so well known and so taken-for-granted now, that I feel compelled to complain about it

[backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Frankie Roberto
Hi all, Apologies if this has been answered before, but is there any reason why the BBC iPlayer seems to only encode programmes from the live broadcast stream, rather than, say, using the actual master tapes/digital files? Sure, it might be simpler, but long-term it'd be great to use the

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Ant Miller
Interesting question, and one that might be someone clarrified by an indepth review of the complete broadcast chain and metadata managment chain involved in taking material from the original source carrier (file or tape or live feed) into the multiple iPlayer assets that each programme produces.

RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Andrew Bowden
from broadcast rather than master tapes Hi all, Apologies if this has been answered before, but is there any reason why the BBC iPlayer seems to only encode programmes from the live broadcast stream, rather than, say, using the actual master tapes/digital

RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Gareth Davis
Of Frankie Roberto Sent: 10 September 2009 13:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes Hi all, Apologies if this has been answered before, but is there any

RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Christopher Woods
I thought most TV programmes that can be taken from master tapes are. I've never seen anything recorded off air on iPlayer, and no credit squeezes myself - even for programmes broadcast live. I just had a look at last nights Lottery draw for example and there was nothing on that, nor on

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Richard Smedley
...@lists.bbc.co.uk] *On Behalf Of *Frankie Roberto *Sent:* 10 September 2009 13:19 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes Hi all, Apologies if this has been answered before, but is there any

RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Phil Lewis
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes Hi all, Apologies if this has been answered before, but is there any reason why the BBC

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Phil Lewis
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 17:48 +0100, Frankie Roberto wrote: snip... you could even do things like cut down the amount of trailing ahead - which surely is less required on iPlayer where people have chosen to watch something specific and are in less danger of changing channel... (You could

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Frankie Roberto
Roberto Sent: 10 September 2009 13:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes Hi all, Apologies if this has been answered before, but is there any

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Richard Smedley
Phil Lewis wrote: If you ever watch the iPhone iPlayer streams they are not the same edits as the flash based iPlayer, they always appear to be from broadcast - Ah - that explains it. I use get_iplayer, which grabs the iPhone offerings :) you sometimes even get completely the wrong

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Phil Lewis
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 20:28 +0100, Richard Smedley wrote: Phil Lewis wrote: If you ever watch the iPhone iPlayer streams they are not the same edits as the flash based iPlayer, they always appear to be from broadcast - Ah - that explains it. I use get_iplayer, which grabs the iPhone

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - encoding from broadcast rather than master tapes

2009-09-10 Thread Ant Miller
Ok, so some of you have noticed iPlayer for the iPhone is a bit different- this 'I think' is via an Off Air system (or was at one point). Radio has a system called Coyopa that takes original content from the networks between the studios and final terestrial and digital playout, but is part ofthe