For more info on this live subtitling system, have a look at this paper:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp065.shtml

The live "re-speaking" subtitling system was developed at BBC Research (&
Development) down at Kingswood Warren.

Cheers,

Andrew
BBC Research

On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 06:25:49PM +0100, Brendan Quinn wrote:
> [just saw jase's post, but dammit I've typed this out now, so I'm posting!]
> 
> Red Bee Media (née BBC Broadcast) does all our subtitling.
> 
> I was having a beer with someone who used to work in their subtitling area 
> the other day, and got an interesting explanation of how it works. They 
> actually do use voice recognition systems, but the systems are trained to 
> recognise only one voice reliably, so the subtitlers spend months and months 
> in front of the computer saying strange words until the system is trained to 
> their voice. Then they take short shifts listening to the live broadcast and 
> repeating any voices they hear into the system, which then magically converts 
> their speech into text. They can pre-load the system with the types of words 
> they are likely to hear given the type of show, but with some shows the 
> subject range can be so diverse that they have to leave the "domain filter" 
> wide open and thus have less accuracy on word matching.
> 
> Pre-recorded subtitling works differently, obviously -- they can take time to 
> pause the playout and get it right. Most of these subtitlers are ex-courtroom 
> steganographers.
> 
> There are a few case studies etc here: 
> http://www.redbeemedia.com/access/subtitling.shtml 
> 
> Someone from RBM might like to chip in here with more explanations, in the 
> spirit of information sharing...
> 
> Of course, Other Subtitling Providers Are Available (er... I think?!)
> 
> Brendan.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher 
> Woods
> Sent: 26 March 2007 17:53
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC site statistics
> 
> Here's a thought regarding subtitling - I know that manual subtitling or 
> on-the-fly subtitling of live programmes has come along leaps and bounds, 
> with voice recognition technology (which sometimes kicks up amusing 
> misunderstandings, but seems to work very well) - how long do you think it'll 
> be before it's all fully automatic, with the software performing voice 
> recognition on the actual soundtrack in realtime? After seeing the lip 
> reading segment on the last Click, it got me thinking... Who does the Beeb's 
> subs now?
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Cartwright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 26 March 2007 17:41
> > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC site statistics
> > 
> > The annual report designers like big numbers too..
> > 
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/review_report_r
> > esearch/bb
> > cannualreport.pdf
> > 
> > Lots of boxes saying interesting things like:
> > 
> > "56% of children in Great Britain aged 7-15 accessed bbc.co.uk/CBBC in 
> > December 2005"
> > "91.6% of programming on BBC One was subtitled in 2005/2006" etc etc
> > 
> > J
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher 
> > Woods
> > Sent: 26 March 2007 17:26
> > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC site statistics
> > 
> > Something I noticed earlier today - the BBC News pages show how many 
> > pages have been served in the past minute, and that cycles round with 
> > other facts about the site... When I was looking earlier this morning 
> > (around middayish) it showed over 73,000 pages served THAT MINUTE - 
> > that's insane! Right now it's saying "82,357 people are reading 
> > stories on the site right now."
> > 
> > !
> > 
> > Sometimes I forget just how massive the audience is for the beebnews 
> > pages...
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 26 March 2007 11:22
> > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > > Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC site statistics
> > > 
> > > I've always found that the more "technical" or "geeky" a
> > site is, the
> > > higher %age of non-IE users you'll find.  For a consumer
> > website - IE
> > > all the way.  Which goes to prove my point that real people use IE, 
> > > geeks use Firefox.  :-)
> > > 
> > > Yesterday's stats from a (very much consumer-orientated) site that I
> > > manage:
> > > 
> > > IE (total) 87.3%
> > > made up of:
> > > IE 5.5 - 0.1%
> > > IE 6 - 40.1%
> > > IE 7 - 47.1%
> > > Safari - 0.8%
> > > Opera - 0.6%
> > > FF (all flavours) - 11.3%
> > > 
> > > Not a single hit from anything else.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > R.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 3/26/07, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just for the record, I have a UK-focused site, so I have
> > > these figures
> > > > for March 2007:
> > > >
> > > > www.ukfree.tv
> > > > Internet explorer is 66% of all traffic.
> > > > of which 7.0  52% (34.63% of total); 6.0 47% (31.4% of
> > total), 5.0
> > > > (0.8% of
> > > > total)
> > > > (Firefox is 28.78% of total, Opera 1% of total)
> > > >
> > > > On the OS front, I get Windows NT/XP/Vista: 88%, Mac 4.8%,
> > > Windows 98
> > > > 2.85 and XWindows 1.26%
> > > >
> > > > Hope this is useful too.
> > > >
> > > > Brian Butterworth
> > > > www.ukfree.tv
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > James Cridland
> > > > Sent: 25 March 2007 16:57
> > > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > > > Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC site statistics
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/23/07, Allan Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I'm wondering if anyone knows any of the site statistics
> > > for the BBC
> > > > > web-sites. In particular what the browser market share
> > > is, as I am
> > > > > wondering how much longer to support IE5 and 5.5 for
> > > certain sites -
> > > > > depending on their application and target market. I
> > thing the BBC
> > > > > site user agent stats would be really interesting in this
> > > area, and
> > > > > possibly one of the least skewed se of statistics on
> > the net for
> > > > > typical user agents.
> > > >
> > > > Not particularly helpful, but
> > > > 
> > > 
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/newmedia/technical/browser_support.sht
> > > > ml#support_table is a useful guide to what the BBC supports
> > > and what
> > > > it doesn't.
> > > >
> > > > From the sites I can pull stats from, these are the stats
> > > for the last
> > > > seven days...
> > > >
> > > > www.mediauk.com
> > > > Internet Explorer: 85% of all traffic of which: 6.0: 59.09%; 7.0: 
> > > > 39.9%; rest: 1.01%
> > > >
> > > > james.cridland.net
> > > > Internet Explorer: 44% of all traffic of which: 6.0: 60.91%; 7.0: 
> > > > 38.42%; rest: 0.67%
> > > >
> > > > www.virginradio.co.uk
> > > > Internet Explorer: 85% of all traffic of which: 6.0: 
> > 62.28% ; 7.0: 
> > > > 37.14%; rest 0.58%
> > > >
> > > > Particularly based on the Media UK and Virgin Radio stats, my own 
> > > > thoughts would therefore be to drop any support for MSIE5
> > > and MSIE5.5.
> > > >
> > > > Hope that's useful.
> > > >
> > > > --
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