Of Paul Battley
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Subject: Re: [backstage] Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:40:58 +0100
2008/7/7 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Is Adobe Air any good for developing in?
Has anyone done anything good with it?
There's http://freshairapps.com
2008 16:40:58 +0100
can you please take me off this list please.
thanks
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
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Subject: Re: [backstage] Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:40
So...
Is Adobe Air any good for developing in?
Has anyone done anything good with it?
I tried this Twitter client, but it's a bit pants, IMHO
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/09/05/snitter-an-adobe-air-twitter-client/
2008/7/3 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Interesting question to the
So...
Is Adobe Air any good for developing in?
Not tried it but would like to soon, I was considering either a small
project in AIR or Gears, would anyone recommend either or the other? I've
always liked Flash, so might try something in AIR.
2008/7/7 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Is Adobe Air any good for developing in?
Has anyone done anything good with it?
I tried this Twitter client, but it's a bit pants, IMHO
Twitter clients are the Hello Worlds of Air development:
http://twitter.pbwiki.com/Apps#MultiPlatform
Paul.
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2008/7/7 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Is Adobe Air any good
:):)
Unrelated, but seeing as they're here: many thanks to Alia, Matt, Ian
and everyone else who helped make Mashed so great!
Phil
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2008/7/3 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Interesting question to the backstage community...
If we ran a competition which required the final prototype to be in
I think its misguided for the BBC to require any particular kind of
technology, since it is a publicaly funded organisation it ought
I agree whole heartedly with Michael here,
Personally, I prefer competitions that have a goal based upon the end user
experience rather than technologies the application utilises. So build an
app which encourages the over 60s to listen to BBC 1xtra rather than build
an app using AIR.
Again, the
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So a little history
I was approached by a large company to run a competition based on there
technology. The base technology was xml but required there software to
play it back.
I did turn down the offer for many of the reasons brought up on the list
2008/7/4 Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I was approached by a large company to run a competition based on there
technology. The base technology was xml but required there software to
play it back.
I assume it was proprietary software :-(
I did turn down the offer for many of the reasons
Hi Everyone,
I agree with Alia, can't we all just get along ?
If this is to be a competition about rich internet applications, then
the competition could be open to AIR and alternatives, such as Google
Gears etc. That is likely to appeal to our various sub-communities
better. Also,
On Thu Jul 3 21:46:16 2008, Richard Lockwood wrote:
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/7/3 Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If we ran a competition which required the final
Have you ever considered your freedom, or do you thrive off being
facetious?
Yes. I regular consider my freedom. My freedom to consider, carefully
think about and, where appropriate amend my views. My rights to not be
hectored, badgered and lectured at, at every possible opportunity,
Ben's suggestion to allow the people to choose their RIA flavour whether it
be AIR, gears or whatever is very sensible.
Surely the main thing is that a good idea gets built.
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Richard Lockwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you ever considered your
2008/7/4 simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Ben's suggestion to allow the people to choose their RIA flavour whether it
be AIR, gears or whatever is very sensible.
Surely the main thing is that a good idea gets built.
Surely the main thing is that we preserve our freedom to understand
and share the
Oops, posted that without a subject and on a new thread... here you are:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/7/4 simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Ben's suggestion to allow the people to choose their RIA flavour whether
it
be AIR, gears or whatever is very
2008/7/4 Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/7/4 simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Ben's suggestion to allow the people to choose their RIA flavour whether it
be AIR, gears or whatever is very sensible.
Surely the main thing is that a good idea gets built.
Surely the main thing is that we
No Dave.
The main thing *for you* is that you preserve *your* perceived freedom. For
a lot of us, that isn't the main thing at all. Please stop making sweeping
statements as though your world view is the only one. If you don't want to
use non-free software, then don't. Don't go trying to
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 04:41:00PM +0100, Ian Forrester wrote:
If we ran a competition which required the final prototype to be in Adobe
Air, how would people feel about that?
There's a run time and SDK for Win, OSx and now gnu/Linux.
32-bit only on Linux unfortunately, so not
On Fri Jul 4 11:59:45 2008, Richard Lockwood wrote:
If you don't want to use non-free software, then don't. Don't go
trying to impose your restrictions on the rest of us. You don't
want to code with AIR, then don't. Simple solution.
But it is suggested that this competition be _only_
I've left this list once before, because whilst it's full of interesting
people, I've absolutely no interest in watching them bang their heads
against each other in the same way over and over again. I still have no
interest in that. Whilst it is your right to speak it is also everyone
elses
On Fri Jul 4 10:24:29 2008, Richard Lockwood wrote:
Have you ever considered your freedom, or do you thrive off being
facetious?
Yes. I regular consider my freedom. My freedom to consider, carefully
think about and, where appropriate amend my views. My rights to not be
hectored,
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri Jul 4 11:59:45 2008, Richard Lockwood wrote:
If you don't want to use non-free software, then don't. Don't go
trying to impose your restrictions on the rest of us. You don't
want to code with AIR, then don't.
You may not. A certain Mr Crossland does.
R.
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri Jul 4 10:24:29 2008, Richard Lockwood wrote:
Have you ever considered your freedom, or do you thrive off being
facetious?
Yes. I regular consider my
On Fri Jul 4 15:16:03 2008, Richard Lockwood wrote:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri Jul 4 11:59:45 2008, Richard Lockwood wrote:
If you don't want to use non-free software, then don't. Don't go
trying to impose your restrictions on the
I wish I could be excluded from this banal tit-for-tat kids game!
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On Fri
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri Jul 4 15:16:03 2008, Richard Lockwood wrote:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri Jul 4 11:59:45 2008, Richard Lockwood wrote:
If you don't want to use
2008/7/4 Adam Hatia [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I wish I could be excluded from this banal tit-for-tat kids game!
Unfortunately, the modus operandi of this list allows repeated
regurgitation of tired freedom arguments and the religious wars that
ensue. Fortunately, on-topic content crops up often enough
can you please take me off this list please.
thanks
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
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Subject: Re: [backstage] Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:40:58 +0100
On Fri
On Thursday 03 July 2008 21:46:16 Richard Lockwood wrote:
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But it tramples our freedom and community, which are more important.
No Dave, you're thinking of Godzilla.
+1 QOTW
Michael.
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On Thursday 03 July 2008 16:41:00 Ian Forrester wrote:
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If we ran a competition which required the final prototype to be in Adobe
Air, how would people feel about that?
Suppose Blue Peter ran a competition for a new toy, but required that children
only use Lego, what that be reasonable?
I
On Friday 04 July 2008 10:05:08 Fred Phillips wrote:
You mean that world where you berate people for their morals? To be
honest, I don’t really want to live there.
That's actually precisely what Dave does as well. My mail client auto-deletes
mails from Dave since I decided I'd had enough when
On Friday 04 July 2008 15:50:29 Adam Hatia wrote:
I wish I could be excluded from this banal tit-for-tat kids game!
There's the backstage-developer mailing list as well, for what it's worth.
Michael.
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Dave Crossland wrote:
2008/7/4 simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Surely the main thing is that we preserve our freedom to understand
and share the software we use to do our computation.
I propose a six-week moratorium on the use of the word 'surely' in this
debate.
Using software running on
On Friday 04 July 2008 20:13:07 Dan Brickley wrote:
I propose a six-week moratorium on the use of the word 'surely' in this
debate.
Surely, the way to surley eliminate the use of the word surely, one and surely
for all is to (surely) overuse it as surely and to the best of our ability,
Surely not?
On 7/4/08, Michael (surely) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 04 July 2008 20:13:07 Dan Brickley wrote:
I propose a six-week moratorium on the use of the word 'surely' in this
debate.
Surely, the way to surley eliminate the use of the word surely, one and
surely
for all is to
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Interesting question to the backstage community...
If we ran a competition which required the final prototype to be in Adobe
Air, how would people feel about that?
There's a run time and SDK for Win, OSx and now
David
On 3 Jul 2008, at 17:46, Dave Crossland wrote:
But it tramples our freedom and community, which are more important.
There are many different communities on this list - please do not
conflate your community with mine. You do not speak for everyone on
this list and it would be more
2008/7/3 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Interesting question to the backstage community...
If we ran a competition which required the final prototype to be in Adobe
Air, how would people feel about that?
Personally, I'd be disappointed to see a proprietary technology being
a requirement. As
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/7/3 Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If we ran a competition which required the final prototype to be in
Adobe
Air, how would people feel about
Oh I promised myself that I wouldn;t get involved, but yay Godzilla!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RFEzpUsUBk
Ian - I'd like to know more about the competition. If all we know is
that it's using AIR then that's all we'll argue^H^H^H^H^Htalk about.
Whats it actually going to be? Is
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