Re: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer
Fingers crossed they are :D Can't wait to see the first hacks for freesat receivers! Yeh! If they have a little power left over in them after the decoding takes place, a nice little hack would be online radio, like shoutcast. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer
All the boxes have ethernet ports, and my colleagues at BBC Research and Innovation have done some nice proof-of-concept trials of MHEG applications picking up text content distributed via the internet - for example, sourcing news stories off bbc.co.uk/news, putting twitter updates on screen and doing flickr photo searches, and displaying the results (for some reason, Cow was a favourite search of theirs!) Unfortunately this was all done with what we term reference recievers - basically Linux based PCs which pretend to be set top boxes. The actual software in the Freesat set top boxes to handle text stuff is unlikely to be fully functional yet - and streaming of video is a bit away away! It's all feasible long term though. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 06 May 2008 14:10 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer I've just been to the Freesat launch event... http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051369 A couple of interesting points for backstagers: 1. Mark Thompson said that the BBC was committed to BBC services being open on all platforms; 2. He also said the iPlayer would be on Freesat as all Freesat boxes (and idTVs) have Ethernet ports. 3. He said that Freesat was an 'open platform' for on-demand content. Result, eh? Brian Butterworth
Re: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer
Andrew, There was a demo of a system using MHEG5 and the Creative Archive that we were shown at the MGEIT(un)F last year. Shouldn't be a problem to do a Flash video player now the format has been 'opened'. My first app for that system would be a Podcast player... I've got a Humax Foxsat-HD, and very nice it is too. There was a fSfS box on the TV before, it is like going from a ZX Spectrum to an XBox 360... 2008/5/8 Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All the boxes have ethernet ports, and my colleagues at BBC Research and Innovation have done some nice proof-of-concept trials of MHEG applications picking up text content distributed via the internet - for example, sourcing news stories off bbc.co.uk/news, putting twitter updates on screen and doing flickr photo searches, and displaying the results (for some reason, Cow was a favourite search of theirs!) Unfortunately this was all done with what we term reference recievers - basically Linux based PCs which pretend to be set top boxes. The actual software in the Freesat set top boxes to handle text stuff is unlikely to be fully functional yet - and streaming of video is a bit away away! It's all feasible long term though. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 06 May 2008 14:10 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer I've just been to the Freesat launch event... http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051369 A couple of interesting points for backstagers: 1. Mark Thompson said that the BBC was committed to BBC services being open on all platforms; 2. He also said the iPlayer would be on Freesat as all Freesat boxes (and idTVs) have Ethernet ports. 3. He said that Freesat was an 'open platform' for on-demand content. Result, eh? Brian Butterworth -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer
Yep - the BBC Archive Trial was an interesting project, and proves much of the technicalities and that, along with another trial called BBC+ did feed into the Freesat specifications. The Archive Trial used Netgem iPlayer DTT boxes which also have ethernet ports and a number were given to people to try the technology out in the field. However there's still work to be done to take it from concept stage to a full production model. And those Freesat set top boxes will still need their software updates :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 08 May 2008 12:00 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer Andrew, There was a demo of a system using MHEG5 and the Creative Archive that we were shown at the MGEIT(un)F last year. Shouldn't be a problem to do a Flash video player now the format has been 'opened'. My first app for that system would be a Podcast player... I've got a Humax Foxsat-HD, and very nice it is too. There was a fSfS box on the TV before, it is like going from a ZX Spectrum to an XBox 360... 2008/5/8 Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All the boxes have ethernet ports, and my colleagues at BBC Research and Innovation have done some nice proof-of-concept trials of MHEG applications picking up text content distributed via the internet - for example, sourcing news stories off bbc.co.uk/news, putting twitter updates on screen and doing flickr photo searches, and displaying the results (for some reason, Cow was a favourite search of theirs!) Unfortunately this was all done with what we term reference recievers - basically Linux based PCs which pretend to be set top boxes. The actual software in the Freesat set top boxes to handle text stuff is unlikely to be fully functional yet - and streaming of video is a bit away away! It's all feasible long term though. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 06 May 2008 14:10 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer I've just been to the Freesat launch event... http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051369 A couple of interesting points for backstagers: 1. Mark Thompson said that the BBC was committed to BBC services being open on all platforms; 2. He also said the iPlayer would be on Freesat as all Freesat boxes (and idTVs) have Ethernet ports. 3. He said that Freesat was an 'open platform' for on-demand content. Result, eh? Brian Butterworth -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer
2008/5/8 Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yep - the BBC Archive Trial was an interesting project, and proves much of the technicalities and that, along with another trial called BBC+ did feed into the Freesat specifications. The Archive Trial used Netgem iPlayer DTT boxes which also have ethernet ports and a number were given to people to try the technology out in the field. However there's still work to be done to take it from concept stage to a full production model. And those Freesat set top boxes will still need their software updates :) They update just fine, I have done it to a few already, takes about a minute on mine. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 08 May 2008 12:00 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer Andrew, There was a demo of a system using MHEG5 and the Creative Archive that we were shown at the MGEIT(un)F last year. Shouldn't be a problem to do a Flash video player now the format has been 'opened'. My first app for that system would be a Podcast player... I've got a Humax Foxsat-HD, and very nice it is too. There was a fSfS box on the TV before, it is like going from a ZX Spectrum to an XBox 360... 2008/5/8 Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All the boxes have ethernet ports, and my colleagues at BBC Research and Innovation have done some nice proof-of-concept trials of MHEG applications picking up text content distributed via the internet - for example, sourcing news stories off bbc.co.uk/news, putting twitter updates on screen and doing flickr photo searches, and displaying the results (for some reason, Cow was a favourite search of theirs!) Unfortunately this was all done with what we term reference recievers - basically Linux based PCs which pretend to be set top boxes. The actual software in the Freesat set top boxes to handle text stuff is unlikely to be fully functional yet - and streaming of video is a bit away away! It's all feasible long term though. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 06 May 2008 14:10 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer I've just been to the Freesat launch event... http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051369 A couple of interesting points for backstagers: 1. Mark Thompson said that the BBC was committed to BBC services being open on all platforms; 2. He also said the iPlayer would be on Freesat as all Freesat boxes (and idTVs) have Ethernet ports. 3. He said that Freesat was an 'open platform' for on-demand content. Result, eh? Brian Butterworth -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer
They'll need a few more before the ethernet port does everything we need of them :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 08 May 2008 13:30 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer 2008/5/8 Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yep - the BBC Archive Trial was an interesting project, and proves much of the technicalities and that, along with another trial called BBC+ did feed into the Freesat specifications. The Archive Trial used Netgem iPlayer DTT boxes which also have ethernet ports and a number were given to people to try the technology out in the field. However there's still work to be done to take it from concept stage to a full production model. And those Freesat set top boxes will still need their software updates :) They update just fine, I have done it to a few already, takes about a minute on mine. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 08 May 2008 12:00 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer Andrew, There was a demo of a system using MHEG5 and the Creative Archive that we were shown at the MGEIT(un)F last year. Shouldn't be a problem to do a Flash video player now the format has been 'opened'. My first app for that system would be a Podcast player... I've got a Humax Foxsat-HD, and very nice it is too. There was a fSfS box on the TV before, it is like going from a ZX Spectrum to an XBox 360... 2008/5/8 Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All the boxes have ethernet ports, and my colleagues at BBC Research and Innovation have done some nice proof-of-concept trials of MHEG applications picking up text content distributed via the internet - for example, sourcing news stories off bbc.co.uk/news, putting twitter updates on screen and doing flickr photo searches, and displaying the results (for some reason, Cow was a favourite search of theirs!) Unfortunately this was all done with what we term reference recievers - basically Linux based PCs which pretend to be set top boxes. The actual software in the Freesat set top boxes to handle text stuff is unlikely to be fully functional yet - and streaming of video is a bit away away! It's all feasible long term though. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 06 May 2008 14:10 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer I've just been to the Freesat launch event... http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051369 A couple of interesting points for backstagers: 1. Mark Thompson said that the BBC was committed to BBC services being open on all platforms; 2. He also said the iPlayer would be on Freesat as all Freesat boxes (and idTVs) have Ethernet ports. 3. He said that Freesat was an 'open platform' for on-demand content. Result, eh? Brian Butterworth -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Please email me back if you
Re: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer
On 5/8/08, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately this was all done with what we term reference recievers - basically Linux based PCs which pretend to be set top boxes. The actual software in the Freesat set top boxes to handle text stuff is unlikely to be fully functional yet - and streaming of video is a bit away away! Out of interest, does anyone know if any of the Freesat receivers are Linux based?
RE: [backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer
Out of interest, does anyone know if any of the Freesat receivers are Linux based? Given their ethernet socket, in-the-field software upgrade facility to enable or add features, plus some cool translucency effects on the EPG and NN banner (from the digitalspy screenies of the Humax HD receiver) I don't think this is an unreasonable expectation to hold. It'd certainly be a practical decision to make, giving the FSC a lot more flexibility after units start to roll out to viewers' homes. Fingers crossed they are :D Can't wait to see the first hacks for freesat receivers!
[backstage] Freesat: open platform AND iPlayer
I've just been to the Freesat launch event... http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051369 A couple of interesting points for backstagers: 1. Mark Thompson said that the BBC was committed to BBC services being open on all platforms; 2. He also said the iPlayer would be on Freesat as all Freesat boxes (and idTVs) have Ethernet ports. 3. He said that Freesat was an 'open platform' for on-demand content. Result, eh? Brian Butterworth
