Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Hirst
With the speed with which the annotation stream idea is being worked up, I can see the time is ripe to revisit the idea of an information mixing desk (cf an audio mixing desk). Info feeds come in at the top, stories can get boosted/attenuated in the presentation order according to eg timeliness,

RE: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-25 Thread Dr R Brittain
Sent: 25 July 2005 1:04 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories With the speed with which the annotation stream idea is being worked up, I can see the time is ripe to revisit the idea of an information mixing desk (cf an audio mixing desk). Info feeds

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Hirst
backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk on 25 July 2005 at 15:42 + wrote: Do you knock up prototypes? Yes - given time (in fact, i only ever do prototypes, and then it's coded with cannibalised code that hangs together with the software equivalent of gaffer tape.i don;t think i've ever got anything

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-23 Thread Matthew Hurst
Here is the blog entry: http://datamining.typepad.com/data_mining/2005/07/feed_annotation.html Feed Annotation Streams With the help of Davy Mitchell, and the input of others on the backstage discussion list (Tony Hirst, Duncan Barclay, and others) we have put together the first proof of

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-23 Thread Davy Mitchell
On 7/23/05, Matthew Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the blog entry: http://datamining.typepad.com/data_mining/2005/07/feed_annotation.html Feed Annotation Streams Looks good - but I might have to hack the Python RSS library I am using to get the GUID tag out of it :-) I'll have a go

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-23 Thread Matthew Hurst
Davy - yes, I think there is a real opportunity here for something. I'm imagining a ping server for FAS data. There is open source java code for a ping server, I bet we could trivially mod it to work for FAS data. If we could put this up and provide a front end (very very simple thing, just a list

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-23 Thread Peter Williams
Hi a couple of thoughts The use of Geotagging could be more useful if the tags were split according to the location of the author, location of the central story elements and the location where the story was published. For example, a story about Mugabe (location tag Zimbabwae), is filed from

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-23 Thread Matthew Hurst
I've been thinking about servers wrt annotations. Why wouldn't you just have a server that takes a query with a guid and produces an annotation? I thin kthere is a really good reason for not going for this at the first cut: simplicity. If everyone out htere who is providing meta data for rss feeds

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-22 Thread Davy Mitchell
On 7/21/05, Tony Hirst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk on 21 July 2005 at 21:52 + wrote: it seems you have the same motivation as I had when I mailed this list about RSS Annotation Streams! The whole idea sounds great. I have plans to expose some of the Mood News data

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-22 Thread Ben O'Neill
Is it against the TCs to provide an RSS file that is 99% the same as the one on the BBC but with geographical information added? On 21/07/05, Tony Hirst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk on 21 July 2005 at 21:52 + wrote: it seems you have the same motivation as I had when

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-22 Thread Matthew Hurst
I think the separation of the original data from the annotation is attractive. Yes, the annotation would be almost meaningless without the original data, but it would save the annotation owner from republishing the original content and any considerations of legality, etc. In addition, it would

RE: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-22 Thread Joel Chippindale
@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories I think the separation of the original data from the annotation is attractive. Yes, the annotation would be almost meaningless without the original data, but it would save the annotation owner from republishing the original content

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-22 Thread Matthew Hurst
to enable this? Joel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Hurst Sent: 22 July 2005 10:09 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories I think the separation of the original data from

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-22 Thread Matthew Hurst
This is great. I will get something together asap. Thanks! Matt On 7/22/05, Davy Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/22/05, Matthew Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still for something like the original file format I suggested earlier. Simplicity is very attractive in this type of

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-22 Thread Matthew Hurst
More thoughts: the annotation spec should include information about when the rss feed was crawled and also when the annotation stream was created. I have some data now (both your annotation and some rss files with matching guids) saved to disc, I'll post the results sometime this weekend. MattH

[backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-21 Thread Tony Hirst
Several sites are plotting news stories on Gmaps I beleive (anyone using yahoomaps yet?) and as a result generating geo info for news stories. Lazy as I am, is anyone syndicating this geo info indexed/searchable by BBC news story ID? thanks tony

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-21 Thread Duncan Barclay
Hi, I could output geotagged news stories in xml if you like, but it would mean setting something up to actually work out where they are on a regular basis (at the moment the script I made to do it is only manual), although that is planned for another prototype I am in the middle of making..

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-21 Thread Matthew Hurst
Tony, it seems you have the same motivation as I had when I mailed this list about RSS Annotation Streams! Perhaps this is format that we want to develop further? Matt On 7/21/05, Tony Hirst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several sites are plotting news stories on Gmaps I beleive (anyone using

Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories

2005-07-21 Thread Tony Hirst
backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk on 21 July 2005 at 21:52 + wrote: it seems you have the same motivation as I had when I mailed this list about RSS Annotation Streams! missed that - ah: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/msg00330.html and