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[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 14 December 2009 17:31
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?
As someone who has been
The RF noise generated by these technologies is quite bad, it's in a
band where noise can propogate worldwide via the ionosphere. It can
prevent receivers locking to, or demodulating a signal.
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP116.pdf
Also, it's very easy to
On 15 Dec 2009, at 10:33, Simon Thompson wrote:
Also, it's very easy to demodulate the Ethernet traffic radiated from your
house wiring from one of these systems - it's not very secure!
I think the Homeplug AV standard uses 128-bit AES traffic encryption, which
should be enough to foil the
2009/12/15 Simon Thompson simon.thomp...@rd.bbc.co.uk:
Also, it's very easy to demodulate the Ethernet traffic radiated from your
house wiring from one of these systems - it's not very secure!
Mitigated by the use of 128bit AES encryption (in the ones I have anyway).
Cheers,
Al.
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Wasn't encryption an option on Homeplug 1.0? I thought it came with
either a default password or the option to switch it on.
Stephen Jolly wrote:
On 15 Dec 2009, at 10:33, Simon Thompson wrote:
Also, it's very easy to demodulate the Ethernet traffic radiated from your
house wiring from
Oops, same team did look into internal systems, but the noise problem is
similar. I'll see if I can find their report.
Mo McRoberts wrote:
On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:33, Simon Thompson wrote:
The RF noise generated by these technologies is quite bad, it's in a band where noise can propogate
Radio Society has more info
http://www.rsgb.org/plt/
In particular they are chasing after the Comtrend models supplied by BT.
Paul
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:24:53 +, you wrote:
Oops, same team did look into internal systems, but the noise problem is
similar. I'll see if I can find their
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:11, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote:
Radio Society has more info
http://www.rsgb.org/plt/
In particular they are chasing after the Comtrend models supplied by BT.
I thought the Comtrend powerline adapters aren't HomePlug (
http://www.homeplug.org/) standard
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:17:47 +, you wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:11, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote:
Radio Society has more info
http://www.rsgb.org/plt/
In particular they are chasing after the Comtrend models supplied by BT.
I thought the Comtrend powerline adapters aren't
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ttLGbZI7k
Nice video - but it's using these http://www.homeplugs.co.uk/ Homeplug
adaptor.
I can't find anywhere where it says that these Homeplug things are legal.
They didn't used to be.
Can someone point out where I can find where it says they are legit?
A
On 14-Dec-2009, at 16:29, Brian Butterworth wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ttLGbZI7k
Nice video - but it's using these http://www.homeplugs.co.uk/ Homeplug
adaptor.
I can't find anywhere where it says that these Homeplug things are legal.
They didn't used to be.
They’ve
Comments here
http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.php/bbc-iplayer-launches-in-december
That Ofcom are reviewing interference.
Paul
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On 14 Dec 2009, at 16:29, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv
wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ttLGbZI7k
Nice video - but
As someone who has been responsible for installation of enough cat5 to
Why would you want to use a HomePlug? People used to have landline phones
upstairs, and everyone was happy with wires for that. HomePlug is not just
pointless, it is expensive and is to radio hams as light pollution is
2009/12/14 Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv:
As someone who has been responsible for installation of enough cat5 to
Why would you want to use a HomePlug?
Because it's easier than flood wiring the whole house.
People used to have landline phones
upstairs, and everyone was happy
Usually one wire, singular. With HomePlug I can have ethernet
wherever there is a power point, and I do move them around
now and then.
Can I cast my vote for a 20m CAT5 cable under the carpet, up the stairs, to
a discreetly placed gigabit switch on the landing / in the study? You still
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 17:30, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tvwrote:
Why would you want to use a HomePlug?
To easily extend my home network.
People used to have landline phones upstairs, and everyone was happy with
wires for that.
If everyone was happy with that, then DECT phone
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Alan Pope wrote:
2009/12/14 Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv:
As someone who has been responsible for installation of enough cat5 to
Why would you want to use a HomePlug?
Because it's easier than flood wiring the whole house.
Its also a good way of getting
So, are they legal outside the home? The idea of using on in a conference
space seems crazy to me, but I only ever go to conferences full of
technology...
2009/12/14 Jon Knight j.p.kni...@lboro.ac.uk
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Alan Pope wrote:
2009/12/14 Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv:
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