Re: [backstage] Mail archives
On 25 Jan 2010, at 14:27, Mo McRoberts wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:43, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I agree but there was no clear idea what we should do except maybe move the whole thing to Mailman? There was a consensus for Mailman, although I don't think anybody hates Majordomo enough to stamp feet over it! I hate Majordomo enough to stamp feet over it. ;-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mail archives
IMHO Majordomo is the IE6 of discussion software. Or perhaps it should be the MS-DOS 3.3? 2010/1/26 Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org On 25 Jan 2010, at 14:27, Mo McRoberts wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:43, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I agree but there was no clear idea what we should do except maybe move the whole thing to Mailman? There was a consensus for Mailman, although I don't think anybody hates Majordomo enough to stamp feet over it! I hate Majordomo enough to stamp feet over it. ;-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] Mail archives
Alright Steve and Brian I get the message :) Secret[] Private[] Public[x] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 26 January 2010 09:35 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Mail archives IMHO Majordomo is the IE6 of discussion software. Or perhaps it should be the MS-DOS 3.3? 2010/1/26 Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org On 25 Jan 2010, at 14:27, Mo McRoberts wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:43, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I agree but there was no clear idea what we should do except maybe move the whole thing to Mailman? There was a consensus for Mailman, although I don't think anybody hates Majordomo enough to stamp feet over it! I hate Majordomo enough to stamp feet over it. ;-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] Mail archives
I agree but there was no clear idea what we should do except maybe move the whole thing to Mailman? Because the list is public, I guess there is nothing stopping it being archived in multiple places if you know anywhere better? Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts Sent: 22 January 2010 18:20 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Mail archives Hi all, I know things are due to change on this list at *some* point (presumably post-move!), but this has been bugging me for a while :) I might be the only one, but I find mail-archive.com to be… suboptimal, it's quite often incredibly slow (sometimes to the point of being unusable). So, I was wondering if there'd be any objections to submitting the backstage list to gmane.org? Given it's a fairly public list with public archives, I can’t think of any reasons to _not_ do it, but thought it polite to solicit opinions form other members before jumping in with both feet! M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mail archives
Mo McRoberts wrote: Hi all, I know things are due to change on this list at *some* point (presumably post-move!), but this has been bugging me for a while :) I might be the only one, but I find mail-archive.com to be… suboptimal, it's quite often incredibly slow (sometimes to the point of being unusable). So, I was wondering if there'd be any objections to submitting the backstage list to gmane.org? Given it's a fairly public list with public archives, I can’t think of any reasons to _not_ do it, but thought it polite to solicit opinions form other members before jumping in with both feet! gmane sounds good to me. Perhaps possibly also do nabble? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mail archives
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I agree but there was no clear idea what we should do except maybe move the whole thing to Mailman? Because the list is public, I guess there is nothing stopping it being archived in multiple places if you know anywhere better? Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Better archives would be great! but should the archiver software refuse to publish anything with a .sig file marked 'Private[x]' ? cheers, Dan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Mail archives
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I agree but there was no clear idea what we should do except maybe move the whole thing to Mailman? Because the list is public, I guess there is nothing stopping it being archived in multiple places if you know anywhere better? Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Better archives would be great! but should the archiver software refuse to publish anything with a .sig file marked 'Private[x]' ? and if i try to access one marked 'Secret[x]' do i run the risk of arrest? cheers, Dan winmail.dat
RE: [backstage] Mail archives
Well if its you Michael, certainly :) Arrest him now. Secret[x] Private[x] Public[x] ;) Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Michael Smethurst Sent: 25 January 2010 13:30 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Mail archives On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I agree but there was no clear idea what we should do except maybe move the whole thing to Mailman? Because the list is public, I guess there is nothing stopping it being archived in multiple places if you know anywhere better? Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Better archives would be great! but should the archiver software refuse to publish anything with a .sig file marked 'Private[x]' ? and if i try to access one marked 'Secret[x]' do i run the risk of arrest? cheers, Dan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Mail archives
Semantically talking maybe yes :) Secret[] Private[] Public[x] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Dan Brickley Sent: 25 January 2010 13:09 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Mail archives On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I agree but there was no clear idea what we should do except maybe move the whole thing to Mailman? Because the list is public, I guess there is nothing stopping it being archived in multiple places if you know anywhere better? Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Better archives would be great! but should the archiver software refuse to publish anything with a .sig file marked 'Private[x]' ? cheers, Dan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mail archives
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:43, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I agree but there was no clear idea what we should do except maybe move the whole thing to Mailman? There was a consensus for Mailman, although I don't think anybody hates Majordomo enough to stamp feet over it! Because the list is public, I guess there is nothing stopping it being archived in multiple places if you know anywhere better? I'll submit to gmane, which means I can start accessing the list via NNTP (hurrah) - I guess others should feel free to submit to other places if they think it's worthwhile? More low-level exposure for backstage amongst the sorts of places developers hang out is probably a good thing :) M. Secret[] Private[x] Public[] ^^ I doubt any archival system will pay much attention to this, though :D M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Mail archives
I'll submit to gmane, which means I can start accessing the list via NNTP (hurrah) - I guess others should feel free to submit to other places if they think it's worthwhile? --- Sure as long as there's not too much cross posting. Backstage should stay on topic :) More low-level exposure for backstage amongst the sorts of places developers hang out is probably a good thing :) --- Agreed, but its quite a noisy mailing list right now, so I'd rather people come because they want to rather than it being forced upon them. Secret[] Private[x] Public[] ^^ I doubt any archival system will pay much attention to this, though :D --- Oh I know, I just wish I could have a rule that when I'm emailing the list, it would automatically change it to public, as I forget sometimes :) I'm not flawless :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
