Re: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6
On 15/07/2009, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/14/youtube-will-be-next-to-kiss-ie6-support-goodbye/ Interesting seeing how we still support IE6 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/futuremedia/technical/browser_support.shtml#support_table Large parts of the UK government still use IE6 unfortunately. Especially unfortunate if you happen to be a member of that community :-( Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6
Large parts of the UK government still use IE6 unfortunately. Especially unfortunate if you happen to be a member of that community :-( For shame, maybe they'll have to do some real work for once ;) IE6 should die a slow and painful death. Lack of comprehensive support for widely used aspects of various web languages, necessitating kludgey workarounds to make things render at least moderately close to how the designers want them to look. It's just plain rubbish. IE6 has lived long past its sell-by-date and should be comprehensively dumped! There's really no excuse for corporates to not update to IE7 or IE8. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6
Scary thought, hope they turned off activex at least Ian Forrester This e-mail is: []secret; [x]private; []public Senior Producer, BBC Backstage, BBC RD Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk work: +44 (0)1612444063 | mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Peter Bowyer Sent: 15 July 2009 13:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6 On 15/07/2009, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/14/youtube-will-be-next-to-kiss-ie6- support-goodbye/ Interesting seeing how we still support IE6 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/futuremedia/technical/browser_support. shtml#support_table Large parts of the UK government still use IE6 unfortunately. Especially unfortunate if you happen to be a member of that community :-( Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6
On 15/07/2009, Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk wrote: Large parts of the UK government still use IE6 unfortunately. Especially unfortunate if you happen to be a member of that community :-( For shame, maybe they'll have to do some real work for once ;) Nah, that would never do. IE6 should die a slow and painful death. Yep. The main reason www.nhs.uk still supports it is because of all the internal users who have it - many of them senior stakeholders for whom the standard argument about obsolescence wouldn't wash. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 13:22, Peter Bowyer pe...@bowyer.org wrote: of the UK government still use IE6 unfortunately. Especially unfortunate if you happen to be a member of that community If you're in an organization (government or not) that's still mandating IE6 aren't you probably going to be working somewhere where they don't want you watching YouTube anyway? Scot
Re: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6
On 15/07/2009, Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 13:22, Peter Bowyer pe...@bowyer.org wrote: of the UK government still use IE6 unfortunately.Especially unfortunate if you happen to be a member of that community If you're in an organization (government or not) that's still mandating IE6 aren't you probably going to be working somewhere where they don't want you watching YouTube anyway? Unfortnately again, that's not necessarily a valid correlation. -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6
IE6 should die a slow and painful death. Yep. The main reason www.nhs.uk still supports it is because of all the internal users who have it - many of them senior stakeholders for whom the standard argument about obsolescence wouldn't wash. It's just disgraceful really. Maybe the argument should be made that not upgrading from IE6 is patently unsafe security practice? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6
IE6 should die a slow and painful death. Lack of comprehensive support for widely used aspects of various web languages, necessitating kludgey workarounds to make things render at least moderately close to how the designers want them to look. It's just plain rubbish. IE6 has lived long past its sell-by-date and should be comprehensively dumped! There's really no excuse for corporates to not update to IE7 or IE8. My BBC Desktop PC has recently only just been updated to IE7 - last week I think it was. One of the reasons why IE6 survived so long in the BBC was that older parts of our intranet and essential web applications, were built in such a way that IE7+ didn't work. You might be surprised to hear that given the BBC's public website is cross platform but it was the case. So there you go. BBC managed to lock down its intranet to IE6. It's not hard to imagine that the number of other corporates that have done the same are not insignificant. The excuse therefore is that these things take time and money to sort out. And business don't like spending money. (Interesting Q - is the cost of sorting out the mess and just upgrading apps to be IE7 only, more or less than making them cross platform!) So I'd argue there is an excuse not to update. There's just no sensible reason why corporates got themselves into the mess in the first place. The BBC's policy now is, incidentally, to ensure that this doesn't happen again on its intranet. Cos it is after all, a bit embarrassing to be still using IE6 as the desktop :) Not that I did. I've got Firefox :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
