Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-18 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/5/18 Richard Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The problem isn't money, it is the legal contracts associated with trying to protect created works for use worldwide through the internet, and the derivatives. The ones that exist will time out; the ones that haven't been signed yet can be

Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-18 Thread frankie roberto
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Jeremy Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the transcript and audio have just been uploaded. http://www.bbc.co.uk/thefuture/transcript_fry.shtml video goes out on bbc parliament and then iplayer after that on sat 9pm. Annoyingly (an perhaps ironically), even though

Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/5/8 Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am still not certain about Dave Crossland's model either As kind as it is to be attributed with the http://freedomdefined.org model of culture that I advocate, may I suggest you call it the culture freedom model or similar :-) as a result it

Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-17 Thread Richard Edwards
Thanks Dave, If I slacked anymore, I'd be totally horizontal. :-) The problem isn't money, it is the legal contracts associated with trying to protect created works for use worldwide through the internet, and the derivatives. Personally I would like to see a brand new approach, one that truly

RE: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Andrew Wong
It's rather interesting that one of the very few TV personalities who really *gets* the digital revolution (tm) and all that is essentially arguing that the digital arms race needs to be beefed up, instead of starting negotations. My personal opinion, not those of my employers etc. Andrew

Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Tom Loosemore
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure It's rather interesting that one of the very few TV personalities who really *gets* the digital revolution (tm) and all that is essentially arguing

RE: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Andrew Wong
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Wong Sent: 08 May 2008 10:20 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure It's rather interesting that one of the very few TV personalities who

Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Tom Loosemore
Good example of how the world looks *very* different if you're a rights holder currently making money from your secondary rights... even a rights holder as clued up as Fry 2008/5/8 Andrew Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's rather interesting that one of the very few TV personalities who really

Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Matt Barber
Didn't think of it like that, good points On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good example of how the world looks *very* different if you're a rights holder currently making money from your secondary rights... even a rights holder as clued up as Fry -

Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Richard P Edwards
: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure It's rather interesting that one of the very few TV personalities who really *gets* the digital revolution (tm) and all that is essentially arguing that the digital arms race needs to be beefed up, instead of starting

RE: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Jeremy Stone
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure It's rather interesting that one of the very few TV personalities who really *gets* the digital revolution (tm) and all

Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Michael Walsh
2008/5/8 Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree with Mr Fry's position and furthermore, I think that it is important, as is my own case, to understand that there are many rights-holders who fear all of this. and the result is that they cannot see a high quality/secure way to

Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.contentinople.com/author.asp?section_id=450doc_id=152567 So Verisign is spinning off Kontiki? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive:

Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Phil Wilson
Jeremy Stone wrote: the transcript and audio have just been uploaded. http://www.bbc.co.uk/thefuture/transcript_fry.shtml wot, no mp3? ;) Phil - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.

RE: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Jeremy Stone
don't shoot the messenger! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Phil Wilson Sent: Thu 5/8/2008 3:56 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure Jeremy Stone

Re: [backstage] Stephen Fry: There is this marvellous idea the iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure

2008-05-08 Thread Phil Wilson
Jeremy Stone wrote: don't shoot the messenger! I initially thought of signing off as Phil 'never satisfied' Wilson, but couldn't bear the thought of causing so much nationwide tittering. Oh, wait... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit