[backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Noah Slater
Hello, This email is directed at the BBC staffers on the list. I was excited to read about the Perl on Rails framework you have developed internally: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2007/11/perl_on_rails.shtml Unfortunately, the post doesn't make any reference to the possibility of

Speed of bbc.co.uk? (was RE: [backstage] Future of BBC's iPlayer in doubt - Sunday Herald - Kangaroo ...)

2007-12-03 Thread Brendan Quinn
That's interesting, does anyone else find bbc.co.uk to be any slower than other sites? I can't imagine why anyone in Durham (where this commenter said they lived) would have a particularly bad experience with bbc.co.uk, even JANET users should have fairly good bandwidth links and our servers

Re: [backstage] The BBC Backstage Christmas Party 2007

2007-12-03 Thread Gordon Joly
At 11:46 + 30/11/07, Matt Lee wrote: Dave Crossland wrote: Who else is up for this? :-) How many other people would attend a parallel event, run somewhere outside London, like.. Manchester? matt Or Cardiff? Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Dave Cross
Quoting Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, This email is directed at the BBC staffers on the list. I was excited to read about the Perl on Rails framework you have developed internally: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2007/11/perl_on_rails.shtml Unfortunately, the post doesn't

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Noah Slater
On 03/12/2007, Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need the BBC to release it. Yeah, a lot of the comments on that blog post said similar things - that notwithstanding it would be very helpful for the community if the BBC shared the source. I should imagine that running a site the

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Tom Loosemore
On 03/12/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/12/2007, Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need the BBC to release it. Yeah, a lot of the comments on that blog post said similar things - that notwithstanding it would be very helpful for the community if the BBC shared

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Noah Slater
On 03/12/2007, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: open sourcing code will only take you so far: I never mentioned Open Source. I ask for them to make it Free Software. :) Whilst I applaud the technical achievement of the individual developers, I deplore the situation that has forced them

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Dave Cross
Quoting Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I should imagine that running a site the size of the BBC could influence the engineering somewhat in way which would be useful/interesting to study. Well this only runs the tiniest part of the BBC site. Like most of the myriad clever pieces of code at

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Dave Cross
Quoting Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 03/12/2007, Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well this only runs the tiniest part of the BBC site. Like most of the myriad clever pieces of code at the BBC :-) Agreed, but it would still be a contribution to the community. You're right, of

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Noah Slater
On 03/12/2007, Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well this only runs the tiniest part of the BBC site. Like most of the myriad clever pieces of code at the BBC :-) Agreed, but it would still be a contribution to the community. -- Noah Slater http://www.bytesexual.org/ Creativity can be a

Re: Speed of bbc.co.uk? (was RE: [backstage] Future of BBC's iPlayer in doubt - Sunday Herald - Kangaroo ...)

2007-12-03 Thread Sean DALY
My impression is that this is a comment from a nontechnical user. She says system and talks about download, was she referring to the iPlayer client? If she is using a Mac, that would explain why it doesn't work. Maybe she is using Windows and has spyware slowdown syndrome. Maybe she can't get Real

[backstage] BBC Backstage Podcast : Accessibility in a Web 2.0 world?

2007-12-03 Thread Ian Forrester
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/12/podcast_accessi.html This podcast talks about the tricky subject of accessibility. I ask the question if we've returned to the days before webstandards and if there was one thing developers could do now to aid accessibility what would it be? I

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Michael Sparks
On Monday 03 December 2007 10:38:37 Noah Slater wrote: I was excited to read about the Perl on Rails framework you have developed internally: I was pretty pleased to see this mentioned too, though I was rather surprised to see it mentioned without any comment on whether it'll be released as

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Michael Sparks
On Monday 03 December 2007 23:37:08 Noah Slater wrote: I wasn't aware that I had demanded anything from anyone. Probably the wrong word, my apologies. I'm naff with words, often. Michael. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Noah Slater
Michael, Thank you for your reply, all very useful info. On 03/12/2007, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Demanding people use the phrase free software rather than open source, however, actually makes life harder for release in my experience, not easier (not everyone agrees on the

Re: [backstage] The BBC Backstage Christmas Party 2007

2007-12-03 Thread Mr I Forrester
Can I just add if someone would setup a parallel event that would be great! Matt Lee wrote: Dave Crossland wrote: Who else is up for this? :-) How many other people would attend a parallel event, run somewhere outside London, like.. Manchester? matt - Sent via the

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-03 Thread Mr I Forrester
open sourcing code will only take you so far: http://iamseb.com/seb/2007/12/perl-on-rails-why-the-bbc-fails-at-the-internet/ Whilst I applaud the technical achievement of the individual developers, I deplore the situation that has forced them to do this. Just to answer a couple of things

[backstage] Re: Accessibility in a Web 2.0 world

2007-12-03 Thread ~:'' ありがとうございました 。
Ian, frankly that's ridiculous, Matthew's objection was withdrawn and it was agreed that as no one objected and those present and invited would like one, the BBC would provide one. You need to honour that agreement. regards Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and