Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
2008/6/13 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu Jun 12 19:45:49 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote: 2008/6/12 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu Jun 12 07:35:20 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote: 2008/6/12 Dogsbody [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What strange install allows RealPlaer but not

Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Vladimir Harman
been using linux on my pc for years and have not have any problems playin flash stuff on it...no prob at all. gnash is also usable but does not play the latest flash applications or so... --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Brian Butterworth [EMAIL

RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Gavin Pearce
I agree with Brian, Real-player is a lot less 'free' in the terms you're thinking than Flash is. You don't get upgrade to plus announcements every five minutes for starters in Flash! However also agree with Christopher, Flash isn't anywhere near as supported on other platforms as Adobe like to

RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Andrew Bowden
You need the Linux version of Real Player. Much nicer and no nagging! Built on the open source Helix Player. Of course you would also need to change your operating system ;) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gavin Pearce

RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Gavin Pearce
Not had a huge experience of Linux GUIs have to admit, mainly a command line guy, though randomly I am putting Ubuntu on me old Laptop tonight (doesn't that sound like a cool Friday evening out!), so shall give it a whirl and let you know.;-) Gavin Pearce | Junior Web Developer | TBS The

RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread zen16083
Can Flash be reduced to a controllable toolbar on your start bar, and can it be told to stay on top of other windows … both features that I for one use a lot with WMP and (OMG) RP as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gavin Pearce Sent:

Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Adam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can Flash be reduced to a controllable toolbar on your start bar, and can it be told to stay on top of other windows ... both features that I for one use a lot with WMP and (OMG) RP as well. I think this can be done using AIR, but i haven't had a chance to play

RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Gavin Pearce
It can be done in Windows, not by standard you have a point, but with other applications. Gavin Pearce | Junior Web Developer | TBS The Columbia Centre, Market Street, Bracknell, RG12 1JG, United Kingdom Direct: +44 (0) 1344 403488 | Office: +44 (0) 1344 306011 | Fax: +44 (0) 1344 427138 MSN:

Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Alia Sheikh
Beat me to it steve:) We have some code that allows you to author id3v2 tags in mp3s to indicate chapters http://www.bbc.co.uk/opensource/projects/chapter_tool/ and some classes that read these tags out of mp3s enhanced in this way. Currently written in Actionscript, as the demo player is

Re: [backstage] Build a (nothing to do with Dr Who or knitting) Mashed Monster

2008-06-13 Thread Matthew Cashmore
I'm seriously just considering dressing up. m On 12/6/08 16:41, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 June 2008 15:49:59 Matthew Cashmore wrote: This is so cool... I wish I could have launched it sooner but I had to jump through some hoops... Not a lot of time to get your entry

RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread zen16083
Anything is possible, of course, but people want plain simple easy things that work the way they expect them to work. Flash embedded BBC content isn’t really user friendly… I think. ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gavin Pearce Sent: 13

Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Jonathan Tweed
Surely the point is that flash embedded content is a plain, simple, easy thing that works. That makes it more user friendly than before. Cheers Jonathan On 13 Jun 2008, at 12:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anything is possible, of course, but people want plain simple easy things that work

RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread zen16083
I’d have to disagree. Not if it can’t easily be reduced to a controllable item on the task bar, and not if it can’t be told to stay conveniently on top of other windows. Having to have IE/FF open (with their physical screen size) to watch something in flash is just a nuisance especially if you

RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Christopher Woods
Can Flash be reduced to a controllable toolbar on your start bar, and can it be told to stay on top of other windows . both features that I for one use a lot with WMP and (OMG) RP as well. Or, if you like consolidation, just install Media Player Classic. (via RealAlternative if you want

Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Paul Battley
2008/6/13 Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Surely the point is that flash embedded content is a plain, simple, easy thing that works. That makes it more user friendly than before. It looks like the audio data's just MP3; it would be even more user friendly if it just used HTTP instead of

Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Tom Hannen
An option for the iplayer to pop-out to an always on top widow, would be lovely actually - I would't want it all the time, but for people who watch whilst using their computer, it would be much easier than re-opening the same tab in a new window, then resizing and scrolling it around until it

Re: [backstage] Too much iPhone already!

2008-06-13 Thread Iain Wallace
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/06/mad_about_mac.html Hey, that thing looks pretty good! Someone should make an iPlayer interface for it! I doubt the BBC would want to be seen as giving preference to one

RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread zen16083
I'd second that ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hannen Sent: 13 June 2008 15:46 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady! An option for the iplayer to pop-out to an always on top widow, would

Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Fred Phillips
On Fri Jun 13 08:54:46 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote: 2008/6/13 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu Jun 12 19:45:49 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote: 2008/6/12 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu Jun 12 07:35:20 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote: 2008/6/12 Dogsbody [EMAIL

[backstage] BBC Topics - How It works

2008-06-13 Thread Nick Reynolds-FMT
Since this has already been discussed a little on the board I hope you don't mind me posting this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/bbc_topics_how_it_works.html

Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Adam Sampson
Paul Battley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It looks like the audio data's just MP3; it would be even more user friendly if it just used HTTP instead of obfuscating it with a proprietary protocol (RTMP). The obvious approach here would be to have a play with standalone MP3 player link, just like

Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
This one on the Guardian site has just such a link, and also a podcast it button too. 2008/6/13 Adam Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Paul Battley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It looks like the audio data's just MP3; it would be even more user friendly if it just used HTTP instead of obfuscating it

[backstage] Full article feeds on BBC blogs

2008-06-13 Thread Jem Stone
We switched over our feeds on BBC blogs this PM to full article (nearly all were summaries before apart from radio labs and the internet blog.) This is all of our blogs including, I think for the first time, content in this format from news and sport. Nick Robinson, Mark Mardell, The Editors,

[backstage] BBC blog RSS feeds go... full text! Yay!

2008-06-13 Thread James Cridland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/06/full_articletext_feeds_for_bbc.html I've been asking for months. No, years. Finally. Hurray! Well done Jem, Aaron, and the others.

Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread James Cridland
Enjoying this thread so far. As the man in charge of the Coyopa project, which'll be fiddling with a lot of our streams, could I pop in and make the following points (given you know we're making changes later this year)... 1. We are not removing internet-radio-compatible streams. Panic not. 2.

Re: [backstage] More good news .. BBC to build web page for every TV show, says Jana Bennett

2008-06-13 Thread James Cridland
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jun/10/bbc.digitalmedia BBC to build web page for every TV show, says Jana Bennett A brilliant idea by the sounds of things. Cough http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes (a page for every

Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Tom Hannen
That's great news! On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:43 PM, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enjoying this thread so far. As the man in charge of the Coyopa project, which'll be fiddling with a lot of our streams, could I pop in and make the following points (given you know we're making

RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

2008-06-13 Thread Christopher Woods
An option for the iplayer to pop-out to an always on top widow, would be lovely actually - I would't want it all the time, but for people who watch whilst using their computer, it would be much easier than re-opening the same tab in a new window, then resizing and scrolling it around