Re: [backstage] iPlayer DRM is over?

2008-03-13 Thread Rob Myers
Thomas Leitch wrote: Wrong. It is locked. Good luck if you lose your last front door key. As another example, I can sell you a car and refuse to give you the keys after you give me the money. If you hire a locksmith and drive off anyway and I take you to court over this then my insistence

Re: [backstage] The LSE's freetard fiasco

2008-03-24 Thread Rob Myers
Tim Dobson wrote: its a pity that Andrew Orlowski couldn't have written up a unbiased version of the events, He can't, he needs the clicks. El Reg's advertising-and-merchandise business model model will fail unless he constantly gets attention by arguing against it. ;-) - Rob. - Sent via

Re: [backstage] iPlayer DRM is over?

2008-03-26 Thread Rob Myers
Tom Loosemore wrote: I tell you, there's a big pot of money awaiting someone who develops a trusted-enough tracker for usage of online video (a big recruited online panel running background tracking software might even do...) *cough* data protection *cough*. ;-) - Rob. - Sent via the

Re: [backstage] iPlayer DRM is over?

2008-03-26 Thread Rob Myers
Tim Dobson wrote: Media players don't all have a function which sends a unique ID to server. Hash the file or check the first 256 bytes. Or check the filename or url. Or the metadata. Tracking files doesn't require a clever system, just an intrusive one. - Rob. - Sent via the

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield leaves BBC (almost)

2008-04-14 Thread Rob Myers
Brian Butterworth wrote: Cool. Can I apply for his post please? That depends. What work experience do you have at Microsoft? - Rob. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial

Re: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars

2008-07-04 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else find it strange that Richard Stallman feels it is apparently unjust for Microsoft and others to publish software that users are not free to share and modify, but it is ok to publish an article which readers are

Re: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars

2008-07-04 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It uses CC-ND which only allows sharing with attribution, it does not allow commercial reuse or you to 'alter, transform or build upon this work' ND does allow commercial use. NC-ND would prevent commercial use. He

Re: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars

2008-07-04 Thread Rob Myers
should prevent misattribution of derivatives. - Rob. On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stallman believes that works of opinion are different from pieces of software. He is concerned that arbitrary modifications of a work

Re: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars

2008-07-04 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just following the CC link posted in the news article, it states no commercial use. Has the wrong version been linked? Yes, it looks like it. Is that an error from the author or the publisher? Just so I know who to

Re: [backstage] BBC E-mail: It's not the Gates, it's the bars

2008-07-04 Thread Rob Myers
fit to publish that commentary. Sean. On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stallman believes that works of opinion are different from pieces of software. He is concerned that arbitrary modifications of a work

Re: [backstage] Internet TV without streaming is like

2008-07-18 Thread Rob Myers
Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/7/18 Oeztunali, Sebnem (CT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ...It will also let users buy a TV show or movie without actually downloading the video file to the PC's hard drive... This statement is either misguided or lying. :-) Why should it be either? It's possible to buy

Re: [backstage] Questions so for FOWA so far...

2008-10-01 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Forrester wrote: Facebook --- 1. Given that your business is worth nothing without the trust of your community, why have you just hired someone who worked for the former US Attorney General who approved warrantless wiretapping, torture,

Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-15 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Phil Wilson wrote: Yes, the fact that this will run on all the Linux PCs in both my houseand office is a shockingly pro-Microsoft move and must be stopped! My Linux box is PowerPC. But it is a great comfort to know that you can run it. - - Rob.

Re: [backstage] Brandon on Redux on BBC Internet Blog

2008-10-27 Thread Rob Myers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/history_of_the_bbc_redux_ proje.html In the summer of 2007, freetards (me too), the OSC and others were calling for the BBC to make iPlayer cross-platform ... Cross-platform support has always been a source of grief The BBC's insistence that this

Re: [backstage] [ORG-discuss] DRM Free BBC Content on GNU/Linux (Ubuntu)

2008-10-30 Thread Rob Myers
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Vladimir Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm...nice and positive news for the ubuntu friends, and me of course :) thanks to canonical for spreading the word :) the plugin works with totem only, or it works with other gnu/linux video applications? My next

Re: [backstage] [ORG-discuss] DRM Free BBC Content on GNU/Linux (Ubuntu)

2008-10-30 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Forrester wrote: I'm trying to get the guys behind this to do a full piece on backstage about it. That would be brilliant! - - Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -

Re: [backstage] BNP mashups

2008-11-20 Thread Rob Myers
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Certainly. Dave is forever banging on about how if information can be copied it *should* be copied and shared - not just free software, but anything; music, films etc, regardless of the wishes of the original creator

Re: [backstage] BNP mashups

2008-11-20 Thread Rob Myers
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see any confusion at all. It's simply a question of where does Dave draw the line between you must share and copy this and you must not share and copy this. He's previously given the very strong impression

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

2008-11-23 Thread Rob Myers
Aleem B wrote: (why is it so surpising that microsoft would prefer DRM-free content). Their prior actions, corporate culture, general technological strategies, partnerships and regulatory environment. And you have stripped the emphasis of the original. There is no evidence that MS *have

Re: [backstage] iPlayer caching

2008-12-18 Thread Rob Myers
Andy wrote: To say AIR supports Linux is very misleading. AIR undermines GNU/Linux, it doesn't support it. ;-) [also ducks] - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [backstage] The Apple Wheel: Apple's new keyboard-free laptop

2009-01-06 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Should you decide to get one it's gonna be a while before you say anything. On 06/01/2009 13:22, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: http://ping.fm/GqIbk http://ping.fm/GqIbk What can I say? t -- Sent

Re: [backstage] If you had a ton of content to freely distribute

2009-01-20 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Licensing, I think we'll use something like CC-BY-NC (although I totally understand the arguments against NC, Dave) CC-BY-NC-SA is tempting due to the nature of the content. Could you explain the nature of the

Re: [backstage] If you had a ton of content to freely distribute

2009-01-21 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Michael Walsh michael.wa...@digitalrightsmanifesto.com wrote: If you have digital material you can release for remixing purpose - then I would contend that along with distributing it via some channel or another, you should also consider hosting the content on a

Re: [backstage] If you had a ton of content to freely distribute

2009-01-21 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote: 2009/1/21 Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org: And ensuring that the results can be used by commercial organizations (by not making it NC) would help defuse any competition concerns. And boost Wikipedia et al :-) Yes

Re: [backstage] Nice CC-ND-ish DVD

2009-02-02 Thread Rob Myers
Dave Crossland wrote: 2009/2/2 Frank Wales fr...@limov.com: Dave Crossland wrote: A nice example of someone running a business, with streaming and torrent downloads and verbatim commercial redistribution permitted: http://www.chrismartenson.com/make-your-own-crash-course-dvds Er, you sure?

Re: [backstage] Make the primary operating system used in state schools free and open source

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk Transforming a Windows school to an Ubuntu school is nigh on impossible to achieve unless you provide a year's warning, gradually phase out use of all Windows-only software over the course of the year, implement the

Re: [backstage] Twittering on

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Myers
Frank Wales wrote: Apparently, there are complaints about how much air time twitter is being given by the BBC: http://thenextweb.com/2009/02/09/bbc-radio-listeners-kick-fuss-twitter-time-bbc-create-microblogging-service/ Yeah, all the cool kids are on identi.ca now. ;-) - Rob.

Re: [backstage] Twittering on

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Myers
Ian Forrester wrote: The really cool kids are on both right? I refer the honourable gentleman to the smiley I appended at the conclusion of my previous statement. ;-) I think Twitter has the more famous people on it. Surely it's the same as when Radio presenters couldn't help but chat about

Re: [backstage] Make the primary operating system used in state schools free and open source

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Myers
Who cares if MS is de facto in the school setting if it serves its purpose?=20 Its purpose (as someone else pointed out quite eloquently) is to teach kids. I don't know how well MS software teaches anything other than how to use the previous version of MS software, a skill that at best

Re: [backstage] Twittering on

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Myers
Duncan Barclay wrote: I have to admit that I generally don't see the point of twitter. You could have fitted that into a twitter message and reached a much wider audience. ;-) - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [backstage] Make the primary operating system used in state schools free and open source

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Myers
Richard Lockwood wrote: I allege that the advantages of switching to Free Software *can* outweigh the costs (sic) of support, teaching, and third party staff upgrading their skills to more open, flexible and studiable systems. ;-) I like the use of the word allege. Can you demonstrate it?

Re: [backstage] Make the primary OS used in state schools FOSS

2009-02-10 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Alun Rowe alun.r...@pentangle.co.uk wrote: //personal rant coming up... For any open source software (Linux for example) to really work on the network en mass we need to about user experience. Currently I've yet to see an attractive/user friendly piece of

Re: [backstage] Slightly bias view maybe?

2009-02-23 Thread Rob Myers
Dave Crossland wrote: Some of them have no pensions and need this money, he said. A large enough cut of zero must be worth *something*. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [backstage] Slightly bias view maybe?

2009-02-23 Thread Rob Myers
In fact technically changing all copyright durations to be 1 year would also harmonise everything.=20 Berne means copyrights have to be at least 50 years. There is no logical reason why you can only harmonise upwards and not downwards. Governments don't want to strip people of their

Re: [backstage] BBC becomes the British Botnet Corporation

2009-03-13 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Steve Jolly st...@jollys.org wrote: Not sure I'm convinced - all operating systems have their vulnerabilities; All machines have their *theoretical* vulnerabilities. Only Windows has vast botnets built on them, or any effective malware threats exploiting them in

Re: [backstage] BBC becomes the British Botnet Corporation

2009-03-13 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Peter Bowyer pe...@bowyer.org wrote: 2009/3/13 Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Steve Jolly st...@jollys.org wrote: Not sure I'm convinced - all operating systems have their vulnerabilities; All machines have their *theoretical

Re: [backstage] BBC becomes the British Botnet Corporation

2009-03-13 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Gordon McMullan gordon.mcmul...@bbc.co.uk wrote: It may not be *vast* but here's a report of a Mac OS X Trojan enrolling a Mac into a DDoS attack http://notahat.com/posts/28 it seems that he was originally infected by running a compromised installer infected

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-15 Thread Rob Myers
Kevin Charman-Anderson wrote: But Dave, taking a swing from the barricades at the profiteering publishers sounds lovely but it comes close to ignoring the pain and economic dislocation that journalists are going through at the moment. We're not the only ones hurting in this recession, but

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-16 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote: My hope with the change is that we'll get an answer to the questions MediaLens raise about the integrity of the profession. My hope is that with the change MediaLens will find something better to do. ;-P - Rob. - Sent via

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: A key characteristic of a newspaper is that you can fold it up. Foldable or rollable screens may yet arrive in the next few years, I vaguely recall Samsung and Sony showing proof-of-concept and prototypes the last year. If

Re: [backstage] [Fwd: [ORG-discuss] iPlayer on Gnash Later In The Year]

2009-03-25 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Seeing is believing but this sounds very encouraging... I do wonder if more could be done to help them though. Large quantities of cash would be good. ;-) - Rob. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread Rob Myers
Dave Crossland wrote: 2009/3/29 James Ockenden james.ocken...@gmail.com: I think this is a false dilemma. Guys in my office have phones with 8MP cameras. My 18-month old phone has a 5MP camera. I suspect a good lens and skill with photoshop is vastly more important than the photographer being

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread Rob Myers
Fearghas McKay wrote: On 29 Mar 2009, at 19:48, Dave Crossland wrote: Photography did in portrait painters. Same story, different century. It did ? There really are no portrait painters left? I think the effect of photography was that portraiture as a market increased, the affluent

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-30 Thread Rob Myers
European Newspapers Find Creative Ways to Thrive in the Internet Age PARIS — As the death toll in the American newspaper industry mounted this month, the German publisher Axel Springer, which owns Bild, the biggest newspaper in Europe, reported the highest profit in its 62-year history.

Re: [backstage] The Final Digital Britain report

2009-06-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote: 2009/6/16 Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk: The Final Digital Britain Report http://www.culture.gov.uk/what_we_do/broadcasting/6216.aspx So what do people think? Time to leave the country or dig a hole and stick our

Re: [backstage] The Final Digital Britain report

2009-06-17 Thread Rob Myers
2009/6/17 Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk I got to say I'm also with ukfsn.org and not really had any major problems Thanks guys. I'll take a look. - Rob.

Re: [backstage] Ogg Theora/Vorbis and HTML5

2009-06-18 Thread Rob Myers
2009/6/18 Phil Lewis backst...@linuxcentre.net The same rights holders probably didn't like VCRs either - or digital terrestrial tv broadcasting. They didn't. They also didn't like cable TV, MP3 and just about any other cash cow you can mention. You have to force them to get rich each time.

Re: [backstage] Taking advantage of the Publicity clause

2009-07-28 Thread Rob Myers
It's a great idea, but beware the opinions of unions stung in the past by attempted exploits on the publicity clause. The materials would have to be by-sa to be used in wikipedia (which is good). Charging for the service would therefore guarantee only timeliness, not exclusivity. On Jul 28, 2009

Re: [backstage] The BBC is encrypting its HD signal by the back door

2009-09-30 Thread Rob Myers
On 30/09/09 17:37, Kieran Kunhya wrote: If anything the open source community will be the first to find a workaround. It will be both impractical and illegal to do so. From the article - DTLA requires that all devices be made to resist end-user modification. That is, DTLA devices can't use

Re: [backstage] The BBC is encrypting its HD signal by the back door

2009-10-02 Thread Rob Myers
On 02/10/09 19:17, Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/10/freeview_hd_copy_protecti on_a.html However our focus is not to champion causes - it's meeting our public service remit which means serving our many audiences as best, as fairly, and as openly as we can.

Re: [backstage] The BBC is encrypting its HD signal by the back door

2009-10-02 Thread Rob Myers
On 02/10/09 19:17, Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote: People on this list may be interested in this latest blog post: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/10/freeview_hd_copy_protecti on_a.html The first commenter is far more worth reading than the original post -

Re: [backstage] The BBC is encrypting its HD signal by the back door

2009-10-03 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 19:53, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.ukwrote: How would the cause of audiences be served if the BBC refused to deal with content vendors and as a result audiences could not access that content? History shows that this won't happen. And this time the BBC is

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-06 Thread Rob Myers
DRM is law, not code. (As code it's useless, an encryption system where you give the attacker the key...) - rob. On Oct 6, 2009 4:14 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, lots of FLOSS code produces supersecure encryption; GnuPG for example. Digital Restrictions Management of

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-06 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/10/09 19:07, David Tomlinson wrote: Frank Wales wrote: Do you mean the DMCA? Isn't that American? And what is a unilaterally imposed licence, when it's at home? How can someone force me to accept their permission to do something? I can not remember the relevant European

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-06 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/10/09 20:05, Brian Butterworth wrote: And let's not forget that EU Legislation has to be enacted by the UK Parliament. Copyright and Related Rights Regulations 2003 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_and_Related_Rights_Regulations_2003#Technical_measures And while I'm at it -

Re: [backstage] Websites to get Panic Buttons

2009-12-07 Thread Rob Myers
On 07/12/09 17:54, Graeme Mulvaney wrote: Why should facebook need a panic button for children ? It's a *moral panic* button. It will be a very handy tool for cyberbullies to use against their victims. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-22 Thread Rob Myers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/01/freeview_hd_content_manag ement.html Overall, we believe the proposed system takes a highly pragmatic approach to content management Why do people always use pragmatic as a synonym for complicit? Indeed, the proposed Freeview HD content

Re: [backstage] Defining Non-Commercial

2010-01-22 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:33:18 +, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: Exactly the same problem exists with Creative Commons NC licenses - there isn't a solid definition of what non-commercial actually means. The CC actually ran a consultation on it, and were going to do... something, at

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-28 Thread Rob Myers
On 28/01/10 08:03, Brian Butterworth wrote: Underwhelming. It's a big iPhone. It's named after the Star Trek PADD. Might be good it if ran an operating system and had a keyboard. As Mo points out it does. It can run iPhone apps so if it's not running the iPhone OS it's running another OSX

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-28 Thread Rob Myers
On 28/01/10 09:56, Brian Butterworth wrote: Sorry, I didn't realise we were back in the 1970s where the software that runs on the iPhone can be called an operating system. It's a UNIX. It's a UNIX broken to remove your freedom, but it's still a multi-tasking* memory-protected kernel-based

Re: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-03-01 Thread Rob Myers
On 01/03/10 10:09, Paul Rissen wrote: Rights are important, and should be respected - but shouldn't be used as a weapon to scare off questions/solutions... And we've known that we need to tackle rights on new work (the rats nest of pre-digital rights would probably require legislation to

Re: [backstage] indefinitely live BBC archive?

2010-03-01 Thread Rob Myers
On 01/03/10 11:22, Ian Forrester wrote: Your right about the lawyers. As default they suggest you would be a mug to give away any part of the rights. In my experience there are very, very few lawyers who can help work through more creative models. I've even been surprised by some of the

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/15/2010 03:21 PM, Andrew Bowden wrote: We can argue around this one as much as we want but I'm afraid there's one simple truth. Most people don't care one bit and just want to watch their programme. They do. And they won't take long to work out that technology, content and services

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/15/2010 02:08 PM, Andrew Bowden wrote: If the alternative was this system did not exist and rights holders told broadcasters (for this is not just a BBC issue) that the broadcaster could not broadcast their content in HD on the Freeview platform... They threatened something like this

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/15/2010 10:11 PM, Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote: People won't miss something they never knew they had in the first place especially if they are able to do all the things they can now, which it appears they will be. They'll find out soon enough, they're not, and it doesn't. This is a problem.