Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-28 Thread James Ockenden
i would like a data feed of all the BBC Have Your Say responses which have a) been most recommended and b) feature a large amount of capital letters (eg BOYCOTT CHINA). That way, you could launch a very low cost newspaper to rival the Daily Express/Mail without any real journalism. And thank-you

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-28 Thread Brian Butterworth
) as to the reliablity of the result... martin -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 26 September 2007 17:15 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas Martin, Did you read

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-28 Thread Richard Lockwood
That's possibly a bit of a sledgehammer / nut scenario for a poll like What should we call the Tikkabilla (Play School for you other oldies...) hamster?. :-) Cheers, Rich. On 9/28/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin, On 26/09/2007, Martin Belam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-28 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 28/09/2007, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's possibly a bit of a sledgehammer / nut scenario for a poll like What should we call the Tikkabilla (Play School for you other oldies...) hamster?. :-) Cheers, Rich. You tell that to Socks and Cookie! I can't see how you

RE: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-27 Thread Martin Belam
@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas My apologies... I was in a class of four people in the sixth form that did a Statistics A-Level On 26/09/2007, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/09/2007, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-27 Thread vijay chopra
On 26/09/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember that ALL the voting where you are asked to pay for the call or text are simply revenue collection systems, not statistically valid ones. The adjudicators (on Big Brother for example) simple verify that the number of calls

[backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Martin Belam
Hi all, I have my BBC hat back on at the moment, and one of the things I am working on is a project to do with online voting and ratings. Part of my brief is to explore how the BBC might utilise and re-use information and data gathered via voting, and hopefully make a business case for releasing

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Brian Butterworth
Martin, Did you read this? http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/comment/0,,2175214,00.html Comment -- If you think the nation decides, think again Via phone-in, vote and blog, a vocal minority appears to be speaking for the silent majority *Carol Sarler Sunday

RE: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Martin Belam
suited to the pub than this mailing list ;-) martin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 26 September 2007 17:15 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas Martin, Did you

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread vijay chopra
Whilst I applaud your effort, I inherently distrust online polls, and cs disclaimed on a site that we're all familiar with: This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane. So

RE: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Christopher Woods
September 2007 18:54 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas Whilst I applaud your effort, I inherently distrust online polls, and cs disclaimed on a site that we're all familiar with: This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs

RE: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Gordon Joly
At 17:40 +0100 26/9/07, Martin Belam wrote: No I hadn't, thanks for pointing it out. I used to be Senior Producer on Online Voting at the BBC for a couple of years, and so I have some quite strong opinions about when it is right to run an online vote and when the correct reaction is You did

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread vijay chopra
On 26/09/2007, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leaving the last digit from the last octet out would be fine, though? Then you could group by IP addresses for purposes like fraud checking and suchlike. I'm sure the BBC sites always say that standard information such as browser and

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Brian Butterworth
to the pub than this mailing list ;-) martin -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 26 September 2007 17:15 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas Martin, Did you