Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
I always had this idea of OpenID being simple to use, so when Yahoo started providing it i signed up to their service, then discovered that most current implementations of OpenID do not currently support Openid version 2 :-( I didn't know about version 2 - ouch! Anyway, I run phpMyID on my own server... somewhere :-) http://openid.net/ http://siege.org/projects/phpMyID/ I have deleted my orginal Livejournal ID and use OpenID there, and increasingly around the Net. Merging OpenID is also possible on some sites. Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
On 24/04/2008, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was considering CouchDB to replace the XMLDB which I use a lot. Looks > pretty impressive. No one is going to take my mySQL away from me! The OpenID announcement is perfectly timed :) Yes, perfectly! Ian Forrester > > This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable > > > Senior Producer, BBC Backstage > BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > work: +44 (0)2080083965 > mob: +44 (0)7711913293 > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Dobson > Sent: 22 April 2008 18:11 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs > > Nick Reynolds-FM&T wrote: > > Jem has announced that the BBC is joining the Open ID Foundation > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/bbc_joins_openid_founda > > ti > > on.html > > Excellent. :D I'm really pleased about that. > > > For those of you going to XTECH can hear directly from Brandon Quinn > > and Ben Smith about how we are replacing our existing stack with "a > > data-driven, RESTful service oriented, platform independent > architecture" > > Wow. Sounds awesome. > > Presumably you are looking at CouchDB[1]? Everyone seem to be talking[2) > about it at the moment. > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/couchdb/ > [2] http://blog.leetsoft.com/2007/9/2/futuretalk-couchdb > > -- > www.tdobson.net > > If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still > has one object. > If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now > has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial > list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial > list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv
RE: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
I was considering CouchDB to replace the XMLDB which I use a lot. Looks pretty impressive. The OpenID announcement is perfectly timed :) Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Dobson Sent: 22 April 2008 18:11 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs Nick Reynolds-FM&T wrote: > Jem has announced that the BBC is joining the Open ID Foundation > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/bbc_joins_openid_founda > ti > on.html Excellent. :D I'm really pleased about that. > For those of you going to XTECH can hear directly from Brandon Quinn > and > Ben Smith about how we are replacing our existing stack with "a > > data-driven, RESTful service oriented, platform independent > architecture" Wow. Sounds awesome. Presumably you are looking at CouchDB[1]? Everyone seem to be talking[2) about it at the moment. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/couchdb/ [2] http://blog.leetsoft.com/2007/9/2/futuretalk-couchdb -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
Nick Reynolds-FM&T wrote: Jem has announced that the BBC is joining the Open ID Foundation http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/bbc_joins_openid_foundati on.html Excellent. :D I'm really pleased about that. > For those of you going to XTECH can hear directly from Brandon Quinn > and Ben Smith about how we are replacing our existing stack with "a > data-driven, RESTful service oriented, platform independent > architecture" Wow. Sounds awesome. Presumably you are looking at CouchDB[1]? Everyone seem to be talking[2) about it at the moment. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/couchdb/ [2] http://blog.leetsoft.com/2007/9/2/futuretalk-couchdb -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
Jem has announced that the BBC is joining the Open ID Foundation http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/bbc_joins_openid_foundati on.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 21 April 2008 17:57 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs I'm pretty sure I can safely say we are _looking_ at OpenID. Sorry not trying to be political. The thing about the BBC, is in the past we've done something and its been somewhat a anti-climax. Mainly because its not joined up. Take Microformats, we do have Microformats on the bbc domain somewhere, but not everywhere, yet! If we were to do OpenID it would have to be pretty joined up, otherwise people would loose faith in the technology and have bad experiences. This is something I hear about some of the other (can anyone say on the bandwagon) OpenID providers. So much for being political :) Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [] private; [x] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden Sent: 21 April 2008 16:48 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs > I just looked at this post > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/blogs_getting_b > etter_finally.html#commentsanchor > and was about to comment when I saw that registration had been > enabled. > Any chance we could see OpenID[1] logins sometime soon? > The benefits of OpenID to the end user are pretty simple: > they don't need to have different accounts on every service (in this > case a blog) in existence. > I'm sure there is some Movable Type code which could be borrowed for > this. Movable Type 4 comes with OpenID authentication built in - however the new blogs installation isn't actually using Movable Type to handle comments and registration. Instead, comments are handled by the BBC's DNA software which runs message boards, H2G2 and various other similar functions. DNA then hooks into the BBC's standard single sign on service, which as you might guess, doesn't support OpenID. Speaking on a personal basis only, I think it would be lovely if the BBC's standard single sign on service allowed the use of OpenID. Just as long as I'm not the one who has to implement it all :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
Richard Northover wrote: You'll be interested to hear that the team who look after the existing single sign on system are currently up to their collective eyeballs in a project to replace it. It's not a small job, as you might imagine, but it's off the ground at least. It would be brilliant to see openid being used, it would make things so much easier for people like me :) That'll be us, then ;-) Good luck. -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
Ian Forrester wrote: I'm pretty sure I can safely say we are _looking_ at OpenID. Awesome. I'm glad everyone has struck a chord here. -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
Brian Butterworth wrote: Sounds like a great idea to me. Have you implemented it yourself, because I would love to use it on my projects? Well my blog uses it - www.blog.tdobson.net it wasn't exactly hard to set up - but i figured no-one would comment if they *had* to set up a new account. doesn't mean they comment now ;) just means they might ;) I installed a drupal module and it just works. it's a no-brainer really. If you are using a CMS look for modules and plugins which have already been created, otherwise check out openid.net/developers -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
I'm pretty sure I can safely say we are _looking_ at OpenID. Sorry not trying to be political. The thing about the BBC, is in the past we've done something and its been somewhat a anti-climax. Mainly because its not joined up. Take Microformats, we do have Microformats on the bbc domain somewhere, but not everywhere, yet! If we were to do OpenID it would have to be pretty joined up, otherwise people would loose faith in the technology and have bad experiences. This is something I hear about some of the other (can anyone say on the bandwagon) OpenID providers. So much for being political :) Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [] private; [x] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden Sent: 21 April 2008 16:48 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs > I just looked at this post > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/blogs_getting_b > etter_finally.html#commentsanchor > and was about to comment when I saw that registration had been > enabled. > Any chance we could see OpenID[1] logins sometime soon? > The benefits of OpenID to the end user are pretty simple: > they don't need to have different accounts on every service (in this > case a blog) in existence. > I'm sure there is some Movable Type code which could be borrowed for > this. Movable Type 4 comes with OpenID authentication built in - however the new blogs installation isn't actually using Movable Type to handle comments and registration. Instead, comments are handled by the BBC's DNA software which runs message boards, H2G2 and various other similar functions. DNA then hooks into the BBC's standard single sign on service, which as you might guess, doesn't support OpenID. Speaking on a personal basis only, I think it would be lovely if the BBC's standard single sign on service allowed the use of OpenID. Just as long as I'm not the one who has to implement it all :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
Hi All You'll be interested to hear that the team who look after the existing single sign on system are currently up to their collective eyeballs in a project to replace it. It's not a small job, as you might imagine, but it's off the ground at least. The first step is to get the foundations in place, and then we'll be in a position to build just about anything we need to... thinking about whether that will mean using OpenID, or related things, is one of our next steps. It's safe to say, however, that we won't be reinventing any wheels if we can help it. We know there's a ton of useful and amazing things that'll be possible when we get this done... just bear with us while we sort it out. ... I think it would be lovely if the BBC's standard single sign on service allowed the use of OpenID. Just as long as I'm not the one who has to implement it all :) That'll be us, then ;-) Richard Northover CSD, BBC Identity On 21 Apr 2008, at 16:47, Andrew Bowden wrote: I just looked at this post http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/blogs_getting_b etter_finally.html#commentsanchor and was about to comment when I saw that registration had been enabled. Any chance we could see OpenID[1] logins sometime soon? The benefits of OpenID to the end user are pretty simple: they don't need to have different accounts on every service (in this case a blog) in existence. I'm sure there is some Movable Type code which could be borrowed for this. Movable Type 4 comes with OpenID authentication built in - however the new blogs installation isn't actually using Movable Type to handle comments and registration. Instead, comments are handled by the BBC's DNA software which runs message boards, H2G2 and various other similar functions. DNA then hooks into the BBC's standard single sign on service, which as you might guess, doesn't support OpenID. Speaking on a personal basis only, I think it would be lovely if the BBC's standard single sign on service allowed the use of OpenID. Just as long as I'm not the one who has to implement it all :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
On 21/04/2008, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tim Dobson wrote: > > > I just looked at this post > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/blogs_getting_better_finally.html#commentsanchor > > and was about to comment when I saw that registration had been enabled. > > > > Any chance we could see OpenID[1] logins sometime soon? > > > > The benefits of OpenID to the end user are pretty simple: > > they don't need to have different accounts on every service (in this > > case a blog) in existence. > > > > I'm sure there is some Movable Type code which could be borrowed for > > this. > > > > Anyone else have an opinon on this? > > > > [1] www.openid.net > > > I always had this idea of OpenID being simple to use, so when Yahoo > started providing it i signed up to their service, then discovered that most > current implementations of OpenID do not currently support Openid version 2 > :-( I thought it looked quite simple to implement and then failed to do so in the time I had allocated to it. Adam > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv
RE: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
> I just looked at this post > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/blogs_getting_b > etter_finally.html#commentsanchor > and was about to comment when I saw that registration had > been enabled. > Any chance we could see OpenID[1] logins sometime soon? > The benefits of OpenID to the end user are pretty simple: > they don't need to have different accounts on every service > (in this case a blog) in existence. > I'm sure there is some Movable Type code which could be > borrowed for this. Movable Type 4 comes with OpenID authentication built in - however the new blogs installation isn't actually using Movable Type to handle comments and registration. Instead, comments are handled by the BBC's DNA software which runs message boards, H2G2 and various other similar functions. DNA then hooks into the BBC's standard single sign on service, which as you might guess, doesn't support OpenID. Speaking on a personal basis only, I think it would be lovely if the BBC's standard single sign on service allowed the use of OpenID. Just as long as I'm not the one who has to implement it all :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
Tim Dobson wrote: I just looked at this post http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/blogs_getting_better_finally.html#commentsanchor and was about to comment when I saw that registration had been enabled. Any chance we could see OpenID[1] logins sometime soon? The benefits of OpenID to the end user are pretty simple: they don't need to have different accounts on every service (in this case a blog) in existence. I'm sure there is some Movable Type code which could be borrowed for this. Anyone else have an opinon on this? [1] www.openid.net I always had this idea of OpenID being simple to use, so when Yahoo started providing it i signed up to their service, then discovered that most current implementations of OpenID do not currently support Openid version 2 :-( Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Open ID on BBC Blogs
Tim, Sounds like a great idea to me. Have you implemented it yourself, because I would love to use it on my projects? On 21/04/2008, Tim Dobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just looked at this post > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/04/blogs_getting_better_finally.html#commentsanchor > and was about to comment when I saw that registration had been enabled. > > Any chance we could see OpenID[1] logins sometime soon? > > The benefits of OpenID to the end user are pretty simple: > they don't need to have different accounts on every service (in this case > a blog) in existence. > > I'm sure there is some Movable Type code which could be borrowed for this. > > Anyone else have an opinon on this? > > [1] www.openid.net > -- > www.tdobson.net > > If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us > still has one object. > If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now > has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv
