Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics [Ok now someone shoot me for OT]

On 03/18/2011 05:17 PM, Jim Kyle wrote: > On Friday, March 18, 2011, at 2:09:58 PM, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: > > JJK> (note to the humor impaired, I am just joking around in good fun) > > Matter of fact, the first machine that I had full system responsibility for > DID boot from paper tape, but

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

Timothy Murphy wrote at about 21:36:19 + on Friday, March 18, 2011: > Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: > > > Timothy Murphy wrote at about 17:57:18 + on Friday, March 18, 2011: > > > In my (very long, I started with a paper-tape machine) experience > > > one almost always gets better advi

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On Friday, March 18, 2011, at 2:09:58 PM, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: JJK> (note to the humor impaired, I am just joking around in good fun) Matter of fact, the first machine that I had full system responsibility for DID boot from paper tape, but that was when BillG was still in grade school. It w

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: > Timothy Murphy wrote at about 17:57:18 + on Friday, March 18, 2011: > > In my (very long, I started with a paper-tape machine) experience > > one almost always gets better advice on Windows problems > > from Unix/Linux gurus. > > Wow! I know that Windows was or

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup reported failed without any apparent error

On 3/18/2011 2:01 PM, Long V wrote: > @ Les Mikesell > > There's no trailing characters after my real share name (see Running: > /usr/bin/smbclient 172.16.197.235\\share -U longvubackup -E -N -d 1 -c > tarmode\ full -Tc -) > > I haven't systematically verify all my files but for the few I did,

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup reported failed without any apparent error

Les Mikesell wrote at about 13:50:00 -0500 on Friday, March 18, 2011: > On 3/18/2011 12:49 PM, Long V wrote: > > > > > 2011-03-18 13:15:00 unexpected empty share name skipped > > Seems odd to me. Do you have any trailing characters after your real > share name? I have seen that (at least

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

Timothy Murphy wrote at about 17:57:18 + on Friday, March 18, 2011: > In my (very long, I started with a paper-tape machine) experience > one almost always gets better advice on Windows problems > from Unix/Linux gurus. Wow! I know that Windows was originally distributed on 3.5" disks and p

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

Joe Konecny wrote at about 13:58:08 -0400 on Friday, March 18, 2011: > On 3/18/2011 1:50 PM, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: > > Les Mikesell wrote at about 10:49:33 -0500 on Friday, March 18, 2011: > > > On 3/18/2011 10:26 AM, Joe Konecny wrote: > > > > On 3/18/2011 11:00 AM, Les Mikesell wr

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup reported failed without any apparent error

@ Les Mikesell There's no trailing characters after my real share name (see Running: /usr/bin/smbclient 172.16.197.235\\share -U longvubackup -E -N -d 1 -c tarmode\ full -Tc -) I haven't systematically verify all my files but for the few I did, they are all there and I can open them file

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup reported failed without any apparent error

Here's the output of df -i. df -i FilesystemInodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 241631232 1069301 2405619311% / /dev/sda1 26104 34 260701% /boot tmpfs1017164 1 10171631% /dev/

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup reported failed without any apparent error

On 3/18/2011 12:49 PM, Long V wrote: > > 2011-03-18 13:15:00 unexpected empty share name skipped Seems odd to me. Do you have any trailing characters after your real share name? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ---

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup reported failed without any apparent error

On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:49:11 -0700 (PDT), Long V wrote: > Hi, > > I have BackupPC-3.2.0 running on RHEL 5.4 with perl 5.8.8 and httpd > 2.2.3. > > I have this error in the log > > > 2011-03-18 13:01:18 full backup started for share share > 2011-03-18 13:15:00 unexpected empty share name skipped >

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 12:49 PM, Joe Konecny wrote: > > The good answer would be a referral to the docs, or a faq or to > request more info from the OP. Not like the two responses below... > > > >>>Obi-Wan: This isn't the backup solution you're looking for. > >>>Stormtrooper: This isn't the backup solu

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

Les Mikesell wrote: > Errr, if you have a windows box, type 'ntbackup -?' and note that the > help listing shows /M {backup type} with choices of nomal, copy, > differential, incremental, or daily. Thanks, I'll try that when I've finished listening to Shostakovitch on my Fedora laptop. JuK is re

Re: [BackupPC-users] CPOOL, PC directories and backuppc statistics generation -- moving cpool possibly?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 3/18/2011 12:06 PM, Scott wrote: >> I am trying to figure out why my backuppc statistics are not generating >> (everything is basically all 0's in the status page -- see below). > > What version are you running?  I thought that before 3.2 y

Re: [BackupPC-users] error -4 help

On 3/18/2011 12:38 PM, Scott wrote: > What do these errors mean? I have LOTS of them - at first I thought it was > something to do with my eclipse directory, but I see the errors on another > machine with Adobe and some other directories: > > > 2011-03-18 11:04:21 BackupPC_link got error -4 wh

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 1:50 PM, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote at about 10:49:33 -0500 on Friday, March 18, 2011: > > On 3/18/2011 10:26 AM, Joe Konecny wrote: > > > On 3/18/2011 11:00 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > > >> But no one is selling a product here. > > > > > > It is be

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

hans...@gmail.com wrote: >> I actually said that there did not seem to be a standard Microsoft >> backup program that did incremental backups. >> I notice that nobody has actually told me there is one. > > And what's your point? It's not appropriate for you to expect to get > an answer to that qu

Re: [BackupPC-users] error -4 help

Hi, Scott wrote on 2011-03-18 13:38:27 -0400 [[BackupPC-users] error -4 help]: > What do these errors mean? I have LOTS of them - yes, we know. Basically, one for each file. > [...] > 2011-03-18 11:04:21 BackupPC_link got error -4 when calling > MakeFileLink(/mnt/backuppc/pc/2510c >

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

Les Mikesell wrote at about 10:49:33 -0500 on Friday, March 18, 2011: > On 3/18/2011 10:26 AM, Joe Konecny wrote: > > On 3/18/2011 11:00 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> But no one is selling a product here. > > > > It is being sold in a metaphorical sense. > > So, do I get a metaphorical commi

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 1:29 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 3/18/2011 11:57 AM, Joe Konecny wrote: >> >>> Anyone can participate here. Show us how it should be done. >> >> All I'm saying is that we should help newbies (like me) and not run >> them off. It encourages the use of the product and further developm

[BackupPC-users] Backup reported failed without any apparent error

Hi, I have BackupPC-3.2.0 running on RHEL 5.4 with perl 5.8.8 and httpd 2.2.3. I have this error in the log 2011-03-18 13:01:18 full backup started for share share 2011-03-18 13:15:00 unexpected empty share name skipped 2011-03-18 13:15:05 Backup aborted () 2011-03-18 13:15:05 Saved partial dum

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

Timothy Murphy wrote at about 16:08:55 + on Friday, March 18, 2011: > Les Mikesell wrote: > > > I've seen memtest take 3 days to find bad RAM. Sometimes only certain > > patterns/timing will fail. > > The standard memtest86+ completes in about 90 minutes > on all the computers I have.

Re: [BackupPC-users] CPOOL, PC directories and backuppc statistics generation -- moving cpool possibly?

Scott wrote at about 13:06:21 -0400 on Friday, March 18, 2011: > I am trying to figure out why my backuppc statistics are not generating > (everything is basically all 0's in the status page -- see below). > > Notice pool is at 0gb... > > So looking at the code, it loops through the backup

Re: [BackupPC-users] CPOOL, PC directories and backuppc statistics generation -- moving cpool possibly?

> I HAVE moved everything from /var/lib/backuppc to /mnt/backuppc (a > different hard drive). > > AHA!!Doing a tree -a in /var/lib/backuppc I see a "cpool" there with > LOTS of directories and files!!! > > So, somewhere I must have to point the cpool and log directories at the > new location,

[BackupPC-users] error -4 help

What do these errors mean? I have LOTS of them - at first I thought it was something to do with my eclipse directory, but I see the errors on another machine with Adobe and some other directories: 2011-03-18 11:04:21 BackupPC_link got error -4 when calling MakeFileLink(/mnt/backuppc/pc/2510c <

Re: [BackupPC-users] CPOOL, PC directories and backuppc statistics generation -- moving cpool possibly?

On 3/18/2011 12:06 PM, Scott wrote: > I am trying to figure out why my backuppc statistics are not generating > (everything is basically all 0's in the status page -- see below). > > Notice pool is at 0gb... > > So looking at the code, it loops through the backupc/cpool/ directory > tree and count

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 11:57 AM, Joe Konecny wrote: > >> Anyone can participate here. Show us how it should be done. > > All I'm saying is that we should help newbies (like me) and not run > them off. It encourages the use of the product and further development > of the product. Agreed, but there's just n

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Many were basically useless, but I have to believe the post-XP ones >> may be a bit better. > > I actually said that there did not seem to be a standard Microsoft > backup program that did incremental backups. > I notice that nobody has ac

[BackupPC-users] CPOOL, PC directories and backuppc statistics generation -- moving cpool possibly?

I am trying to figure out why my backuppc statistics are not generating (everything is basically all 0's in the status page -- see below). Notice pool is at 0gb... So looking at the code, it loops through the backupc/cpool/ directory tree and counts files and directories.Running a linux tree

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 12:46 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > You do understand that the author of the program has a day job, don't > you (as the CEO of a large company...)? Sure and that is why the users and members of this list should help each other. ...and I'm not the CEO... just the lowly MIS Director. I te

Re: [BackupPC-users] [newb] ssh rsync with restricted permissions

On 2011-03-18 05:46, Neal Becker wrote: > I'm interested in setting up linux->linux backup. I don't like the idea of > giving permission for machine1 as user backup to ssh to machine2 as root. > What > are the options? > > 1. Can ssh be restricted so that the only command user backup can run is

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 11:24 AM, Joe Konecny wrote: > >>> >>> It is being sold in a metaphorical sense. >> >> So, do I get a metaphorical commission if I help metaphorically sell >> copies to people who won't bother to read the docs? > > It's not about selling backuppc in the sense that you get money. It's

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 11:05 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > I actually said that there did not seem to be a standard Microsoft > backup program that did incremental backups. > I notice that nobody has actually told me there is one. Errr, if you have a windows box, type 'ntbackup -?' and note that the help l

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 11:08 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > >> I've seen memtest take 3 days to find bad RAM. Sometimes only certain >> patterns/timing will fail. > > The standard memtest86+ completes in about 90 minutes > on all the computers I have. > As far as I can see, it just starts

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 11:49 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 3/18/2011 10:26 AM, Joe Konecny wrote: >> On 3/18/2011 11:00 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> But no one is selling a product here. >> >> It is being sold in a metaphorical sense. > > So, do I get a metaphorical commission if I help metaphorically sell > c

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 16:08 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > The standard memtest86+ completes in about 90 minutes > on all the computers I have. > As far as I can see, it just starts again and runs the same tests > if you leave it running. > > Also, when I have a bad memory module, as in this case,

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

Joe Konecny wrote: >>> There are loads of ms forums out there. Many of them are >>> very professional. >> >> Such as ... >> > > google them... They aren't hard to find. Look at the forum activity and > the number of replies and you can get a good idea of a good forum. This > should get you sta

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

Les Mikesell wrote: > I've seen memtest take 3 days to find bad RAM. Sometimes only certain > patterns/timing will fail. The standard memtest86+ completes in about 90 minutes on all the computers I have. As far as I can see, it just starts again and runs the same tests if you leave it running.

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

hans...@gmail.com wrote: Incidentally, is there a Windows backup program as good as BackupPC? >> I should have said that there does not seem to be a Microsoft backup >> program. I'm reluctant to run non-MS programs, for the same reason that I >> do not like to run unofficial Fedora or CentOS

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 10:26 AM, Joe Konecny wrote: > On 3/18/2011 11:00 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> But no one is selling a product here. > > It is being sold in a metaphorical sense. So, do I get a metaphorical commission if I help metaphorically sell copies to people who won't bother to read the docs? >

Re: [BackupPC-users] [newb] BackupFilesOnly?

Well, it seems that just looking at the command line while it was running was misleading. In fact, it did just backup /home/nbecker as I wanted. Thanks. Les Mikesell wrote: > On 3/18/2011 7:39 AM, Neal Becker wrote: >> I have BackupFilesOnly set to /home/nbecker, but right now >> rsync is runn

Re: [BackupPC-users] [newb] ssh rsync with restricted permissions

On 3/18/2011 6:57 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: > >> I'm interested in setting up linux->linux backup. I don't like the idea of >> giving permission for machine1 as user backup to ssh to machine2 as root. >> What are the options? >> >> 1. Can ssh be restricted so that the only comman

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 11:00 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > But no one is selling a product here. It is being sold in a metaphorical sense. >It works, it is simple and > elegant, it does some things that nothing else does, and if someone asks > a question that some o

Re: [BackupPC-users] [newb] ssh rsync with restricted permissions

Well before your post I tried: command="rsync" But this fails. It seems BPC wants to run some other commands besides just rsync. The failure said something about not being able to get the filelist. Mike Loseke wrote: > You can prefix the key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys with something > like

Re: [BackupPC-users] [newb] ssh rsync with restricted permissions

You can prefix the key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys with something like the following: no-pty,no-agent-forwarding,no-X11-forwarding,no-port-forwarding,command="rsync --server --sender -vlogDtprze.iL --ignore-errors --numeric-ids --inplace . /" ssh-rsa ... This will force a ssh connection to st

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 8:22 AM, Joe Konecny wrote: > On 3/18/2011 5:00 AM, hans...@gmail.com wrote: >> People answering question that have been already been answered >> thousands of times are doing nothing but wasting time and bandwidth - >> not just their's but everyone else's who participates in that >> li

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 7:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >>> In the end I found by running a Fedora Live CD >>> that a memory module was faulty >>> (the machine's Diagnostic program said it was fine). >> >> Memtest86 perhaps? > > The laptop is a Dell Latitude D610. > There is a Diagnostic program one can ente

Re: [BackupPC-users] [newb] BackupFilesOnly?

On 3/18/2011 7:39 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > I have BackupFilesOnly set to /home/nbecker, but right now > rsync is running with: > > /usr/bin/rsync --server --sender --numeric-ids --perms --owner --group -D -- > links --hard-links --times --block-size=2048 --recursive --ignore-times . / > > What did

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

Joe Konecny wrote at about 09:22:05 -0400 on Friday, March 18, 2011: > On 3/18/2011 5:00 AM, hans...@gmail.com wrote: > > People answering question that have been already been answered > > thousands of times are doing nothing but wasting time and bandwidth - > > not just their's but everyone el

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Joe Konecny wrote: > On 3/18/2011 5:00 AM, hans...@gmail.com wrote: > This isn't valid.  With today's pipes bandwidth isn't a concern as > far as forums go.  I realize this is a mailing list and not a I meant the mental bandwidth of the participants. > forum but

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 5:00 AM, hans...@gmail.com wrote: > People answering question that have been already been answered > thousands of times are doing nothing but wasting time and bandwidth - > not just their's but everyone else's who participates in that > list/forum. This isn't valid. With today's pipe

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On 3/18/2011 8:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> There are loads of ms forums out there. Many of them are >> very professional. > > Such as ... > google them... They aren't hard to find. Look at the forum activity and the number of replies and you can get a good idea of a good forum. This should

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> Incidentally, is there a Windows backup program as good as BackupPC? > I should have said that there does not seem to be a Microsoft backup program. > I'm reluctant to run non-MS programs, for the same reason that I do not like > to run u

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

Joe Konecny wrote: >> Yesterday for example I was looking for a solution to a problem >> on my wife's Windows laptop ("STOP: c21a {Fatal System Error}"), >> and found innumerable offers of "free" programs that would solve this >> and every problem under the sun for $35. >> In the end I found b

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

hans...@gmail.com wrote at about 16:00:53 +0700 on Friday, March 18, 2011: > Of course, reasonable questions "should" get answered reasonably > promptly, just as every project once past a certain size of user base > "should" have decent documentation. The question is who should provide > these

[BackupPC-users] [newb] BackupFilesOnly?

I have BackupFilesOnly set to /home/nbecker, but right now rsync is running with: /usr/bin/rsync --server --sender --numeric-ids --perms --owner --group -D -- links --hard-links --times --block-size=2048 --recursive --ignore-times . / What did I do wrong? (I started backup manually via web gui b

Re: [BackupPC-users] [newb] ssh rsync with restricted permissions

Neal Becker wrote: > I'm interested in setting up linux->linux backup. I don't like the idea of > giving permission for machine1 as user backup to ssh to machine2 as root. > What are the options? > > 1. Can ssh be restricted so that the only command user backup can run is > rsync? 2. Is there a

[BackupPC-users] [newb] ssh rsync with restricted permissions

I'm interested in setting up linux->linux backup. I don't like the idea of giving permission for machine1 as user backup to ssh to machine2 as root. What are the options? 1. Can ssh be restricted so that the only command user backup can run is rsync? 2. Is there an easy way (using acls?) to gi

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Basics

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Joe Konecny wrote: > I'm not claiming I can explain the solution to his problem but this is a good > example of why > microsoft is so successful.  MS has MVP's (most valuable professional's) (and > they aren't > necessarily on ms's payroll) that hang out in foru